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leave it out guys, he's probably been run over by a bus or summit
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broken at an early age
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Hi guys, nice to come back and see your remarks, (Good and bad) I withdrew the profit I had for a week away in Portugal playing golf, After that bad day I needed to refocus, i agree with alot of what has been said with regard to over trading...fear not I have returned and the goal remains the same. I said I would learn things along the way!
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Good luck with your challenge. Nice and steady ...
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Right here goes...I have today topped up the account by 15k and it sits at £25107 right now. I felt 10k was not enough to get me to where I want to be (For all the cynics, yes it is money I can afford to lose but dont want to!) There will be no more deposits...just the target date of 31/12/2011.
I have just laid Tiger Woods to win the Masters 2011 @ 13 for £1100. I have thought for a week over my next bet and this one has not left my top 3 for the week whichever way I look at it. I have a back of 95 for £200 in running. So do I withdraw anything over 25k each week? Your thoughts please genuinely on whether I should withdraw regularly or not? |
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STA: First I wd get a spreadsheet so you can show yr ongoing progress to anyone reading the thread.
Personally I cannot understand yr working: you say you lost 1,100 on the cricket and also had winning lays on Hinton Admiral (for 498), City Ground (for 500) and Calusa Caldera (you suggest for 880, but this may be a typo and you actually laid 40 pounds at 12, so for 480). Against a win on the horses of 100 less comm, this gives you horse losses of 1,380 or so and cricket losses of 1,100 since you last gave a figure for your bank. This fig. was 1,416, so I wd have you at about 8,936 before you topped up. Either you had more bets or you're missing something or something is not clearly laid out so people can't follow. Supposing you have an edge and winning strategy, the reason for posting yr bets is to make sure that you don't kid y/s and to make you think twice b/f doing anything rash. Why not be utterly consistent and be anal about stating yr bank and liabilities after every bet? If this slows you down, you are betting too fast. |
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B/f you think about withdrawing, I have further advice about yr punting.
I think you need to be more considered evaluating yr bets on a bet-by-bet basis. For each bet, whether you write it down here or not, you need to have a sense of its expected value (in other words, what wd you have to be paid for someone to buy the bet off you)? You say that you've laid Tiger in the Masters at 13 and put a back up at 95. Does this mean that you think him a true 94-1 shot? Do you think that over an infinite no. of runs, yr Tiger bet will return on average 74.59 pounds (98.9474 times in a 100 winning 87.08 or so minus 1.0526 times in a 100 losing 1,100 over the no. of attempts). Wd you sell yr bet to me for 74 pounds, and if so, are you betting rationally? (Actually your bet on these assumptions is just over half-Kelly, but that cd be by chance). Do NOT say 'I have a feeling Tiger will lose, I'm saying around 100-1 to avoid regret but my gut is that he has no chance'. You need to estimate yr actual sense of his chance and stake accordingly. In recording yr bets, you will have runs when you 'over-win' against yr expectations and runs where you 'under-win'. You shd be pleased w/ the former but not get carried away. Equally, you shd not suppose that the latter are just 'bad luck'. Winning bettors win b/c they are up against people who will always say they had bad luck. Btw, everyone, pls excuse any bad arithmetic--I'm writing at a rush while running requests and am terrible at arithmetic, wh/ somehow has always been for me separate from the principles[smiley:crazy] |
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STA's stated bank was 11,416--bad typing already...
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Hello there Second Time around.
According to my calculatiions if you want to get to 250K by the end of the year you have to make over 6K a week, which is close to 1K a day assuming that you never take a day off. That is a big return anyway yet alone if you want to keep your bank only at £25K by making regular withdrawals. |
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if u cannot do it with 10k, why do u think u can do it with 25k?
whats the significance of 31st dec 2011? will u be happy with 200k? |
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I am not kidding anyone, I just cant be bothered to post each bet up here as proof, but here is this mornings.
Back Your Odds Your Stake Your Profit Portland Trail Blazers 1.24 £500.33 £120.08 Ref: Bet matched: £500.33 And before you say it is not random, thought about this one all day yesterday. (Well maybe not all day) |
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Winner Winner. Bank now £25116. (Obviously not taking into account the Masters Lay)
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Well done Second Time Around with the selections - keep it going. If you go to the 'Account Statement' section of your account - you can quickly just copy and paste your bet(s) for each day. It includes all the reference details and stake etc.
All the best with the challenge. |
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14:10 lay the bishops baby for £100 @ 10
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STA, my concern for people on threads on this type is not that the poster fails to reach their target but that they suffer a big loss wh/ they're sure is a freak, deposit heavily again, then lose unluckily for another whopping loss.
Can you afford to lose 25k if this happens to you? I wd also record / report yr bets much more fully (for each bet) to keep y/s honest. |
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Well, that was brown trouser time for about 30 minutes last night! Bank £26050. Will post todays a little later.
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Odds Your Stake Your Profit Australia 1.11 £1,152.85 £126.81 Ref: Bet matched: £1,152.85 Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets Order by Matched Date Selection Price Stake Profit/ Liability Bet Status: Starting Price (SP) bet odds and profit will show when the event starts Starting Price (SP) bets Your SP odds and profit will display at In-Play SP Back (Bet for) Set Your Min Odds Your Stake Your Min Profit SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Lay (Bet against) Set Your Max Odds Your Liability Your Min Profit SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability You have no unmatched bets on this market. |
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I'd be wary of accumulating much cash in your account.
http://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27434753/funny-thing-happened-the-other-day |
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I'd be wary of accumulating much cash in your account.
http://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/27434753/funny-thing-happened-the-other-day |
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Lay Backer's
Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets Order by Matched Date Back Your Odds Your Stake Your Profit Back Your Odds Your Stake Your Profit Mikhail Youzhny 1.85 £1,450.00 £1,226.50 Ref: Bet matched: £1,450.00 Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets Order by Matched Date Selection Price Stake Profit/ Liability Bet Status: Starting Price (SP) bet odds and profit will show when the event starts Starting Price (SP) bets Your SP odds and profit will display at In-Play SP Back (Bet for) Set Your Min Odds Your Stake Your Min Profit SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Lay (Bet against) Set Your Max Odds Your Liability Your Min Profit SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability You have no unmatched bets on this market. |
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Have laid out at 1.48.
Back Your Odds Your Stake Your Profit Mikhail Youzhny 1.85 £1,450.00 £1,226.50 Ref: Bet matched: £1,450.00 Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Mikhail Youzhny 1.48 £1,500.00 £2,220.00 £720.00 Ref: Bet matched: £1,500.00 Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets Order by Matched Date Selection Price Stake Profit/ Liability Bet Status: Starting Price (SP) bet odds and profit will show when the event starts Starting Price (SP) bets Your SP odds and profit will display at In-Play SP Back (Bet for) Set Your Min Odds Your Stake Your Min Profit SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Lay (Bet against) Set Your Max Odds Your Liability Your Min Profit SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability You have no unmatched bets on this market. |
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Odds Your Stake Your Profit Juan Ignacio Chela 1.54 £1,000.00 £542.99 Ref: Bet matched: £1,000.00 Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets Order by Matched Date Selection Price Stake Profit/ Liability Bet Status: Starting Price (SP) bet odds and profit will show when the event starts Starting Price (SP) bets Your SP odds and profit will display at In-Play SP Back (Bet for) Set Your Min Odds Your Stake Your Min Profit SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Lay (Bet against) Set Your Max Odds Your Liability Your Min Profit SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability You have no unmatched bets on this market. |
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Odds Your Stake Your Profit Richard Gasquet 1.78 £1,000.00 £778.84 Ref: Bet matched: £1,000.00 Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets Order by Matched Date Selection Price Stake Profit/ Liability Bet Status: Starting Price (SP) bet odds and profit will show when the event starts Starting Price (SP) bets Your SP odds and profit will display at In-Play SP Back (Bet for) Set Your Min Odds Your Stake Your Min Profit SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Lay (Bet against) Set Your Max Odds Your Liability Your Min Profit SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability You have no unmatched bets on this market. |
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Juan Ignacio Chela £1,110.00 £110.00
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Will cut and paste later but today has been a very good day, including a lay of Man City.
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Back Your
Odds Your Stake Your Profit Delhi Daredevils 2.4 £2,333.61 £3,278.45 Ref: Bet matched: £2,333.61 Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Delhi Daredevils 2.32 £2,000.00 £4,640.00 £2,640.00 Ref: Bet matched: £2,000.00 Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets Order by Matched Date Selection Price Stake Profit/ Liability Bet Status: Starting Price (SP) bet odds and profit will show when the event starts Starting Price (SP) bets Your SP odds and profit will display at In-Play SP Back (Bet for) Set Your Min Odds Your Stake Your Min Profit SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Lay (Bet against) Set Your Max Odds Your Liability Your Min Profit SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability You have no unmatched bets on this market. |
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£1000 on Gasquet at 1.56, lay in there at 1.16
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Lay matched...get in great start 2 day.
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For anyone interested!!
Back Your Odds Your Stake Your Profit Chennai Super Kings 1.42 £1,608.05 £675.38 Ref: Bet matched: £1,608.05 Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability Chennai Super Kings 1.1 £1,700.00 £1,870.00 £170.00 Ref: Bet matched: £1,700.00 Bet Status: The following bets were successfully matched Current Odds bets Order by Matched Date Selection Price Stake Profit/ Liability Bet Status: Starting Price (SP) bet odds and profit will show when the event starts Starting Price (SP) bets Your SP odds and profit will display at In-Play SP Back (Bet for) Set Your Min Odds Your Stake Your Min Profit SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Back (Bet for) Your Stake SP Lay (Bet against) Set Your Max Odds Your Liability Your Min Profit SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability SP Lay (Bet against) Your Liability You have no unmatched bets on this market. |
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Keep nibbling along mate !
Good luck with it. |
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Profit and loss last 7 days Below
Basketball: £460.78 | Cricket: £1,873.44 | Football: £1,088.74 | Golf: £109.77 | Horse Racing: £2,969.84 | Rugby Union: -£260.71 | Tennis: £1,410.56 | Tote: | Total P&L: £7,652.42 |
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Nice going 2nd Golf what happend there only 110 Profit
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Laid off some when it got a bit risky.
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I am sure you have some avid followers including myself - so all the very best with it.
If you doing this genuinely - then how about you post up all your bets including bet ref and date/time stamp so everyone can see how the figures all stack up and when you have greened up inrunning. Have a good day betting today. |
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undern doesnt believe u
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I am sure he is doing it for real - and I certainly wish him all the best with it (because as you know I am doing my own challenge) - however I also like to see all the bets that are placed etc to get a good feel for how is going and what sort of plays/strategies he incorporates.
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another holiday
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No Buzzer, just not done alot. Any how I have just opened a **** account as this site is going down far too often.
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Hello there Second Time Around.
There seems to be an awfully large amount of quiet time on this thread for such a "genuine" attempt. Time is ticking. Any updates???? |