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uptomynutsinguts
10 Feb 11 01:31
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I looked at the score in sports section and it said 0-1 to Bosnia so I layed 0-0 at half time with my bank because amazingly I still had the option to.  I double checked this score and it said 0-1 to Bosnia.

Anything to do about this I assume no way to cancel the bet but what about the false information provided by betfair? Im posting this before the half is over so no1 thinks im just moaning lol

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By:
pxb
When: 10 Feb 11 02:15
You got lucky.
By:
Trevh
When: 10 Feb 11 02:47
Lucky pxb?

It was 0-0 at half time, the odds usually reflect what's happening better than anything. Hard luck uptomynuts, I take it the 0-1 was corrected soon after you placed the bet? You could try contacting them but I fear you won't get much joy.
By:
Trevh
When: 10 Feb 11 02:55
This reminds me of a night match about a year ago, when all the live score websites were displaying a goal and updated scoreline of 3-1. Trading was occurring on 3-1 as if it was the current score, then 5 minutes later 2-1 flickered into life again and the score reverted back! Carnage!

It's just occurred to me that if BF were displaying 0-1 that might go some way to explain why the 0-0 was still trading at it's kick off odds nearly 30 minutes in.
By:
pxb
When: 10 Feb 11 02:56
He laid 0-0. It ended 2-0.

He won.
By:
Trevh
When: 10 Feb 11 02:58
I believe he laid it in the HT market unfortunately. We'll probably never see him again if he's lost the whole bank.
By:
uptomynutsinguts
When: 10 Feb 11 04:49
Its ok guys (yeh i laid 0-0 in HT market) for about 160 (had built it up from 30) but i dunno what was going on in that game half time ran to like 55 minutes! So here i was making a mess in my pants after I saw betfairs mistake but i started to back 0-0 and i escaped with 90 euro so i only lost about 60-70

I guess il be more cautious from now. If it looks too good to be true it must be!

This was a learning experience! I believe what i did is called trading right? I was able to salvage over half of what I was standing to lose so even though I lost some I am delighted im not stuck depositing more!

Thanks for the replies lads!
By:
Northbouy
When: 10 Feb 11 05:09
so you thought it was free muney.
By:
flatliner
When: 10 Feb 11 11:08
Score sites can be wrong, it's very rare to find the money wrong.
By:
Contrarian
When: 10 Feb 11 11:12
Was this on Betfair's live scores page?
By:
pxb
When: 10 Feb 11 12:29
Contrarian,

No it wasn't. I was following the match and the BF (from a 3rd party) Live Scores data was correctly showing 0-0.
By:
Contrarian
When: 10 Feb 11 12:51
Thanks pxb.

I sometimes rely solely on the BF live score site, and have never seen it wrong yet.
By:
uptomynutsinguts
When: 10 Feb 11 22:16
Hey sorry was out all day!
Yeah was just on the BF site I just pressed sports and on the right side> the live now section showed bosnia winning 1-0 with something like 22 minutes gone! I normally use flashscore.com to watch scores as the time is more accurate and sometimes has live updates which you can watch!
By:
Mr Snap
When: 10 Feb 11 22:19
most will be glad you got stung

thieves never prosper
By:
uptomynutsinguts
When: 10 Feb 11 22:24
Ha, I dont think being opportunistic is really stealing!
Either way made a mistake, paid for it and learned something from it.
Point is tho if people are to rely on the BF system for correct score then it should be correct! I assume something happened in the game with the 10 or so minutes of injury time in the first half!

and to anyone who is happy i got "stung" as if you wouldnt do the same if you saw it there lol
By:
jt45
When: 10 Feb 11 23:08
utmnig,

I suspect that it's not the fact that you've been 'opportunistic' that has caused annoyance. It's the fact that, having taken an advantage of a seeming opportunity of this type and got it wrong, you elected to come on to the forum crying about your mistake and looking to blame someone other than yourself without any valid cause.

Incidentally, here is the relevant t&c:

Warning: Although the current score, time elapsed and other data provided on this site is sourced from a "live" feed provided by a third party, you should be aware that this data may be subject to a time delay and/or be inaccurate.  If you rely on this data to place bets, you do so entirely at your own risk. Betfair provides this data AS IS with no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or timeliness of such data and accepts no responsibility for any loss (direct or indirect) suffered by you as a result of your reliance on it.

Simply because a term and condition exists doesn't automatically make it fair and enforceable in law. Nevertheless, in this particular case I would rate your chances of mounting a successfully challenge at less than 0.1%.
By:
jt45
When: 10 Feb 11 23:09
* successful
By:
uptomynutsinguts
When: 10 Feb 11 23:17
I didnt really intend to take it any further than to see peoples opinions on it, raise the issue and ofc vent some obviously understandable frustrations!

Now on the note of "without any valid cause" lets be real here, regardless of the t&c (keeping in mind im only talking to other betfair customers and not talking to betfair about my rights or anything like that)the score was displayed wrong I made a bet, then the score was corrected. Are you to tell me you dont think thats a cause for a mild annoyance?

Its not like i'm here moaning demanding money back I just wanted to talk about the issue on the forum which does not seem unreasonable to me at all.

I came on and took my loses in good humour, spoke about learning my lesson and dont think i complained too much all I asked was is ther eanything to do about it and I even expressed I was doubtful!
By:
uptomynutsinguts
When: 10 Feb 11 23:28
btw thanks for finding the t&c for me I was not interested enough in searching it as I could safely bet (get it we're on a betting site...ha) that they would have one like that!
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 10 Feb 11 23:42
Lesoon upnuts.
Never bet on anything involving Bosnia.
By:
jt45
When: 10 Feb 11 23:44
I would be unlikely to rely solely on a live scores website to place bets. If I did choose to do so, I would ensure that I was fully aware of the risks involved in doing so.

If I had placed a bet in the circumstances that you described above, I would be annoyed at myself for having made such a mistake but given those particular circumstances I certainly wouldn't comment about it on the forum.

Your first post on this matter did not, in my opinion, contain any trace of good humour and appeared to be an attempt to discover if there was any grounds under which your bet (error) could be voided. I appreciate that in your later posts you do at least seem more willing to accept that the error was ultimately your fault.
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 10 Feb 11 23:52
jt45
What can you rely on, if you're not getting a direct live feed into your house ?
Btw I agree with your comments in general, which is why I avoid IR betting.
By:
jt45
When: 11 Feb 11 00:09
Frog,

I would be unlikely to bet IR on events for which I could not access some type of 'live' picture or audio feed (whether that feed be TV, radio or web-based). My betting obviously also depends on my estimation of the delay of the relevant feed.

I sometimes use scoreboards in addition to feeds but personally I do not feel comfortable relying on a scoreboard alone. That is not to say that scoreboards shouldn't be used alone, sometimes live scoreboards can be quicker than any of the available feeds, it is simply my preference.
By:
uptomynutsinguts
When: 11 Feb 11 00:23
Hey guys,
I posted here but it never showed up, I was asking if anyone knows a system or guidelines on the site thats good for beginners because i generally rely on guess work and it works ok i have the ability to build up from 20-30 euro up to about 150 then i take out 50 float around 70-100 for a bit and lose it all and deposit again! I'd like to break this habbit so does anyone know a good place to start?

Jt in my defence i did say lol and tone is hard to take on from text alone so since you seem like a smart man (or woman) how bout we agree to take my word for it I wasnt fuming or anything i was even joking about a mess in my pants and said lol!

I generally use those sites for football and espn for basketball scores since I work 2 jobs and am doing law in college time is not something I have the luxury of atm so i tend to bet on the go!

Thanks for all the replies good and bad appreciate them all!
any tips for me as im a newbie id love and will defo take them on board and appreciate them!
By:
jt45
When: 11 Feb 11 00:43
As rather more prolific posters than yourself on this thread have previously been advised, it's highly unlikely that anyone is going to reveal their edge too you.

Rather than looking for a magic system, you could instead gain quite a lot of useful information by searching these forums. This forum, General Betting, contains a much higher proportion of interesting betting related threads than any of the other sections.
By:
jt45
When: 11 Feb 11 00:43
* to
By:
uptomynutsinguts
When: 11 Feb 11 00:45
Cheers, i've been reading il just keep looking. If you had any reccomendations of threads which might be good i'd appreciate it, if not dont sweat it!
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 11 Feb 11 00:47
Read anything and evrything posted by Aye Robot, Contrarian, Investor and Bayes for starters.
By:
uptomynutsinguts
When: 11 Feb 11 00:49
ah much love FAFH I was literally just reading a post by Contrarian and thinking "this dude knows whats up" lol
By:
The Investor
When: 11 Feb 11 05:18
Contrarian, I have seen it go wrong. For instance, it goes 1-0 and 5 seconds later it is changed to 0-1 when they make a mistake.
By:
sevey
When: 11 Feb 11 10:45
Yes The/Mang Bradley Dredge Madeira Island Open Golf Springs To Mind
By:
flatliner
When: 11 Feb 11 11:48
There was A swedish cup match last year some time, early in the cup, two nothing teams, an illiquid market.

fbol 24 put up a score of 1-0 the market on match odds moved accordingly, 10 mins later fbol 24 changed it to 0-1. There must have been no one at all watching the match and betting.
By:
Trevh
When: 11 Feb 11 17:03
BF Live Score often has the teams listed the wrong way round!
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