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brendanuk1
When: 05 Feb 11 14:25
lite would get fraction of traffic and that was up and running for 30mins after problems with main site, it would still be running now but they have taken off line imo, same with api. The website cant handle the traffic because of bloat imo and other platforms are being taken down because main site is going down.
By:
aye robot
When: 05 Feb 11 14:26
This isn't a uniquely heavy day by any means Brendan,the site gets this much traffic and more all the time. Over the past 6 months or so it has generally been working very well, just recently it's gone caput again - just when they moved to Ireland.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 05 Feb 11 14:26
So you can't really blame BF ...They have zero competition ,so in true style they rest on their laurels
By:
Lori
When: 05 Feb 11 14:26
It's never been quite the same since they put the colours on the racecard. Steady downhill fall since then as they've added more and more useless clutter.
By:
jimmy69
When: 05 Feb 11 14:28
Does all this extra clutter actually make the site go down Lori?
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Feb 11 14:28
look at thwe wsdl, its been pulled. It would be still working imo

https://api.betfair.com/exchange/v5/BFExchangeService.wsdl

Points to me that backend is ok and front end webserver are fecked. Why that is now you would have to go back ovr the recent deployments and see what has changed
By:
subversion
When: 05 Feb 11 14:28
jimmy - its like anything, the more possible points of failure there are, the higher the chance of a failure
By:
EMeal
When: 05 Feb 11 14:29
any way of traiding out positions pre kickoffs? tried lite, app, rapid and main site. Not looking good and will mean a serious afternoon on the crapper
By:
Coachbuster
When: 05 Feb 11 14:32
Sub , not if you have the proper infrastructure
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Feb 11 14:33
You have seen with even this forum their attitude to testing & deployments is cavalier at best
By:
jimmy69
When: 05 Feb 11 14:33
EMeal

I bet you make money...if you do please come back and thank Betfair for the outageLaugh
By:
subversion
When: 05 Feb 11 14:34
Coach - no IT system anywhere in the world is bug-free

its always about minimizing impact, and ensuring isolated components are minimally 'coupled'

so i guess we are agreeing if that fits within your definition of 'infrastructure'
By:
EMeal
When: 05 Feb 11 14:37
jimmy69:

way things have been going over the last month I seriously doubt it. Do I know go to normal account and back the draws???
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 05 Feb 11 14:43
monopoly breeds arrogance breeds mediocrity breeds failure.
By:
aye robot
When: 05 Feb 11 14:48
I was sort of expecting them to void the 14:05 but seemingly not - works out fine for me but others must be fuming.
By:
askari1
When: 05 Feb 11 15:25
They were not betting a Pricewise race this week ... leaving me in doubt whether I can changed my bets to 'take SP' in time.

Perhaps they won't be betting the Superbowl tomoz ... or the National or Royal Ascot.

I get the feeling that the site is so tech- and numbers-oriented they've lost track of what their recreational and even professional clients care about.
By:
askari1
When: 05 Feb 11 15:25
*had changed
By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 05 Feb 11 17:04
I get the feeling that the site is so tech- and numbers-oriented they've lost track of what their recreational and even professional clients care about.

Spot on askari. 99% of their server requests are probably made by the middlemen that betfair claim to have cut out. If they ran Tesco you wouldn't be able to get into the store for kids taking up their offer of half price sweets.
By:
Contrarian
When: 05 Feb 11 18:50
Gone again?
By:
Lori
When: 05 Feb 11 18:51
Yep
By:
getting better
When: 05 Feb 11 18:52
yes it seems so. I think it is the database not the site. Notice how the aussie wallet balance still shows then it starts to go down.
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Feb 11 18:54
Website always goes first, API probably to follow, that's the pattern.

So API users now need to keep web interface open and test every few minutes to make sure it's not about to all crash..

(and that would indicate it's not the DB, it's the internet facing parts of their site are as stable as the millenium bridge when first opened)
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Feb 11 18:58
not db other platforms still working
By:
Coachbuster
When: 05 Feb 11 18:59
bright colours attract losing punters   ,but as one said before why overload the site with roulette , poker and scrabble ?
By:
doridoru
When: 05 Feb 11 18:59
Its disgusting, surely the owners will be sacking some people...the same thing happened on the Betfair Poker site, people didnt get there winnings and entrys for days, truely appaling service. Is anyone listening?
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Feb 11 19:00
back?
By:
Contrarian
When: 05 Feb 11 19:02
Get the bl**dy API back up too.
By:
curlywurly
When: 05 Feb 11 19:03
bets matched while the site's down - fecking thieving cnts
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Feb 11 19:11
Yip API went a couple minutes later. Website fails, then if you're lucky and see it, you've a short time to try and use API to try and safe your neck. Three times in one day.
By:
Lusitano71
When: 05 Feb 11 19:17
we should have a association of some type so that we together could make betfair pay for this b.s., that should make them ensure that things like this never happen again

but we are a bunch of sad lonely people

here BETFAIR go to link or search keyword:

redundancy

http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/6874
By:
bubasan10
When: 05 Feb 11 19:22
Isn't it better to say "we have problems and we will be closed for a week". It's not easy to trade when you can not bet live...
I hope your cooperation with Goldman Sachs wont make you thieves as they are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 05 Feb 11 19:22
What you need is another exchange to charge you up to 90% less than betfair so that you can all take your famous liquidity there. Oh I forgot, there is such an exchange and you all already tried that before discovering that you don't supply liquidity at all. Cry
By:
Contrarian
When: 05 Feb 11 19:35
you all already tried that before discovering that you don't supply liquidity at all


What are you talking about?

A couple of high-profile forum posters threatened to go there after the introduction of the PC, but, of course, they didn't ever really stop betting here - there was never any drop in liquidity at that time.

Liquidity begets liquidity, and unfortunately it will take something pretty major for one of BF's competitors to reach the critical mass required to draw the big players (ie TRADERS) away.
By:
Contrarian
When: 05 Feb 11 21:05
Not again. Jesus!!!
By:
Lori
When: 05 Feb 11 21:06
Down again.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 05 Feb 11 21:09
https://lite.betfair.com/

still up atm
By:
curlywurly
When: 05 Feb 11 21:19
thanks brendan
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 05 Feb 11 21:30
am I right in thinking at least two of these outages have hit a couple of minutes before TV football matches went in play?
By:
Contrarian
When: 05 Feb 11 21:33
Correct.

I'm sure there's something suspicious going on.

Back up now.
By:
Feck N. Eejit
When: 05 Feb 11 21:33
A couple of high-profile forum posters threatened to go there after the introduction of the PC, but, of course, they didn't ever really stop betting here - there was never any drop in liquidity at that time.

They arranged a walk out, they did stop betting here but you're right inasmuch as there was never any drop in liquidity on betfair. Nor was there any increase in the purple's.

Liquidity begets liquidity, and unfortunately it will take something pretty major for one of BF's competitors to reach the critical mass required to draw the big players (ie TRADERS) away.

The big players LaughLaughLaughLaugh. How you people love yourselves. Do you mean it will take something big like charging a fifth of the commission betfair do? Is that not big enough? Would zero commission for traders be big enough? In truth it wouldn't be because what purple needs is the leech's host not the leech.
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