florianmayer Joined: 12 Feb 11
Replies: 1 12 Feb 11 22:32 
hello,
i am betfair full-time trader since 4 years and since short time i started to trade for customers with a ROI of 35% per month on average.
If you are interested to join me or share trading views dont hesitate add me in msn juanmonaco@hotmail.fr or mail me in that adress.
good luck

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Any losing punter is almost certainly better off using bet365 and ignoring the exchanges. A winning punter would obviously normally also be better off there as well, but probably they won't be given that opportunity for very long.

365 offer a jaw-dropping array of in-play markets, very competitive pricing, no commissioin, I would guess they also offer virtually the most generous free bets and concessions of any bookmaker except perhaps PP? They are also prepared, contrary to popular misconception, to lay MASSIVE bets to proven recreational gamblers who aren't looking to pick off prices shorter on here etc or consistently beat them.

I would also assume that if you lose a chunk they will lay out the red carpet treatment for you with hospitality etc, in a way that an exchange operator with their much lower margin cannot afford to do. You will also probably lose your money slower to 365 than an exchange, with no commission and no danger of falling prey to in-running hooverers who will rape you quicker than a traditional fixed odds layer. I would guess newbies who deposit their first grand to an exchange probably lose it quicker on average than people who deposit with traditional betting sites. Carried away with laying instead of backing, overstaking in-play etc. The model is more like cocaine than traditional fixed odds.

It's really a no-brainer if your bet for fun and lose overall to go for a generous fixed odds layer like 365, but I'm not sure that this is a maintstream view here where many are working strategies and looking to lure in another lamb to slaughter for themselves...Lose slower, lose less, get treated better; stick to fixed odds until you win consistently. Then you will have little option but to return!

*365 being a 5/6 merchant.

I would guess they also offer virtually the most generous free bets and concessions of any bookmaker except perhaps PP?

I know everyone has their faves but really?

In fairness they don't have bad promotions, but the likes of WSEX and Bodog  hit them out of sight, even VIP (Who I wouldn't recommend to my enemies in fairness) give better promotions.

As to a jaw dropping array of markets, many of them are suspended for huge chunks of matches in running and often they don't re-open at all. A lot are re-wordings of each other and they don't offer more than the likes of Billies and Stans when you factor in the doubling up.

They're a usable site but certainly not close to being one of the first you'd recommend to someone who wants a casual punt with a bonus and nice odds.

To clear up an apparent contradiction. I wouldn't not use them, however if you're looking for one bookie to use, you'd be mental to go there first.

I started by laying a bit at 40. The odds were moving against me. I still made it a 35 shot though, and was laying at 26, then 21, and I just kept getting matched. When I was still getting matched at 15 I started feeding 100s into the market, and made a nice little sum

LadBROKEs will limit you too if you win with them

Think I've said it before on another thread but 365 are not as bad as people make out and are definitely prepared to keep some winners' accounts open to a vaguely reasonable limit for "following" purposes.

good point pounf

been a twonk since waaay back...

Never ever plan to bet big amounts in unknown events offered by bet365.

I had enough on them ..

Placed a bet on a favourite player to win the set in a badminton match .. he was leading 17-13 ..and the odds is 1.10 on that player to win the set ..

I placed a $5k bet on him to win the set @1.10 to earn a quick $500

The livescores gone to 20-13 ..then suddenly the scores crash ..no scores available .. after few minutes , when i check my account .its stated i lost he bet ...

how on earth do a favourite player get beaten from 20-13 up and more doubtful is, why the scores crash at 20-13 ??

I believe bet365 have full access to unknown events which they offered ..

I like 365 a lot.  If you are lucky enough to have an unrestricted account with then then it's a very good asset to have.

Do bet 365 have shops??

ok personally i prefer in some ways the betfair concept, basically the market view is good, you take a bet , then you can can bet again if it aint gunna win to try and get it back, its all there to see,or greening up by setting a price and hoping threy both get matched or lay bets , good idea too, bet  365 have so many options in play, good mobile phone service, betfair just set the options prematch for a game and sometimes i prefer that to the moving line, its set for the game , thats it but maybe betfair could have a few more options as in total points etc.one of the things i do like on bet 365 is the corner options in soccer games, one thing i do know that baseball is a crap game to bet on in any site.

one thing i do know that baseball is a crap game to bet on in any site.

Plenty of good sites to bet baseball though. At least depending on today's ruling.

Forgive my off topic intrusion. I'll be in Canada and the US for 20 days in August. I only have accounts in only betfair and bet365. You guys know if I'll be able to access them from the US?

Thanks