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Rocket to the FACE
10 Jan 11 10:22
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Report dave66 January 10, 2011 11:45 AM GMT
Mines showing the correct week as last week wont show until tomorrow. Could be an issue with stored browser data, clear temp files and cookies??
Report viva el presidente! January 10, 2011 8:49 PM GMT
mine's okay.

Last Week 27/12/10 - 02/01/11
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 10, 2011 8:52 PM GMT
Rocket
If they don't update it will it mean they might also be late in charging you ?
If so, can't be all bad then.?
Report Rocket to the FACE January 10, 2011 9:13 PM GMT
Still can't view it Confused
Report Rocket to the FACE January 10, 2011 9:15 PM GMT
No, FAFH, I have still charged.

You could bet your life savings I would be.
Report kenilworth January 10, 2011 9:45 PM GMT
Can someone give me the link for the Premium Portal please ?
Report five leaves left January 10, 2011 10:18 PM GMT
.
https://account.betfair.com/regpay-myaccount/premiumcharge/summary.html
Report kenilworth January 10, 2011 10:52 PM GMT
Thanks for that.
Report davescrazy January 10, 2011 11:06 PM GMT
Remaining allowance £ 517.30 CryCryCry
Report davescrazy January 10, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
Max possible Premium Charge £ 225.03 LaughLaughLaugh
Report Eldrick January 10, 2011 11:28 PM GMT
i'm amazed anyone still has any allowance outstanding, i thought it was designed to have been used up before they rolled the premium charge out
Report jimmy69 January 10, 2011 11:37 PM GMT
Your account has not incurred Premium Charges. If you become eligible to incur Premium Charges in the future, we will contact you before any charges are paid. If you require any further assistance, please contact premiumcharge@betfair.com. Laugh
Report Mr Magoo January 11, 2011 10:23 AM GMT
Total Charges    %    1,191.51

Cry
Report make me fly January 11, 2011 11:50 AM GMT
LOL, had a bad weekend, i'm safe 20.01%

Wish I was paying though.
Report jimmy69 January 11, 2011 12:01 PM GMT
Eh..why do you wish you were paying it?
Report Cosmic Horizon January 11, 2011 12:43 PM GMT
Looking at my premium portal it says that £168.42 premium charge applied!  That will be taken off my account tomorrow?  Really need to alter my betting to try and avoid this charge.
Report scarecrow January 11, 2011 2:25 PM GMT
the best stagety to use is to lose every week then you do not pay it simples.
Report Rocket to the FACE January 11, 2011 2:52 PM GMT
Still hasn't been updated [smiley:crazy]
Report jimmy69 January 11, 2011 3:10 PM GMT
You can win every week and still not pay it Scarecrow.
Report lanza January 11, 2011 3:55 PM GMT
had a good week last week, won 2.6k on here, but overall was up bout 900. just noticed had an email telling me im now a premium charge account???  gonna take 500+ tomor SadSad

leaving me up 400 for last week, which is nice, but feels like a right smack in the chops considering all the overnight cricket / lack of sleep i did last week.

Had a few days off since the e-mail came and withdrawn 80% of my funds out, not sure what to do really.
Report rink rat January 11, 2011 5:58 PM GMT
Trick is to figure out how to make this pay now. Got whacked 10% this time, obviously some bets on here are not going to cut it anymore.
Report rink rat January 11, 2011 6:04 PM GMT
Also the worst part is the more you win the less your charges to offset are. Really it makes mandatory a bad week on here now, not to pay the charge.
Report Rocket to the FACE January 11, 2011 6:06 PM GMT
Sorted now.
Report Coachbuster January 11, 2011 7:16 PM GMT
jimmy69     11 Jan 11 15:10 
You can win every week and still not pay it Scarecrow.

____________

Jimmy, that would involve a pretty volatile looking  betting graph though  Cool
Report curlywurly January 11, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
had a good week last week, won 2.6k on here, but overall was up bout 900. just noticed had an email telling me im now a premium charge account???  gonna take 500+ tomor

leaving me up 400 for last week, which is nice, but feels like a right smack in the chops considering all the overnight cricket / lack of sleep i did last week.


and the non-payers wonder what all the fuss is about
Report Coachbuster January 11, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
Pro gamblers are a much maligned species Curly Sad
Report heynoodles January 11, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
He didnt have just one good week (imo)
Report Stapleton January 11, 2011 9:53 PM GMT
Still got a bit of rope thankfully

Lifetime Profile
Markets         110354    
           
Gross PL     £     1,775,738.83    
           
Commission Generated     £     372,946.88     +
Other Charges     £     74,758.99     +
Premium Charges (exc. last week)     £     917.78     =
Total Charges     £     448,623.65    
           
Total Charges     %     25.26    
Max possible Premium Charge     £     0.00    
Last Week 03/01/11 - 09/01/11
           
           
Gross PL     £     8,746.51    
           
Commission Generated     £     1,670.73     +
Other Charges     £     0.00     +
                  
Total Charges     £     1,670.73    
           
Total Charges     %     19.10    
Max possible Premium Charge     £     78.58    
           
Premium Charge [pre-allowance]     £     0.00    
Available allowance     £     0.00    
Premium Charge Applied     £     0.00    
Remaining allowance     £     0.00
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 11, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
Gulp.
Report Coachbuster January 11, 2011 10:10 PM GMT
Good lord Shocked
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 11, 2011 11:40 PM GMT
Sort of puts in place the PC payers who poke fun at the non-PC payers.
Report jimmy69 January 11, 2011 11:45 PM GMT
...done well for someone who has been here less than a yearLaugh
Report viva el presidente! January 12, 2011 4:38 AM GMT
stapleton is clearly an uber-ferengi calamare cityboy parasite

where is feck in this fred, anyway? has he finally snapped?
Report heynoodles January 12, 2011 9:14 AM GMT
stapleton is clearly NOT an uber-ferengi calamare cityboy parasite.... surely?
Report chrisblues January 12, 2011 2:02 PM GMT
110354 markets   from may 2010  wow  looked fake
Report chrisblues January 12, 2011 2:07 PM GMT
110354  markets  if is that right    [:o] u do work hard
Report Mr Magoo January 12, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
I can't compete with the profit levels, but:

Lifetime Profile
Markets        395788

Guess I'm just not fussy in what I bet on!
Report viva el presidente! January 12, 2011 3:46 PM GMT
or what you let your bots bet on?
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 12, 2011 4:02 PM GMT
I was sort of hoping that some of the perennial PC whingers might have felt the need to comment on Stapleton's post. I was looking forward to reading them.
Why the silence ?
They're all out and about on the other current PC thread running.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 12, 2011 6:51 PM GMT
What I mean aqctually Mgt. is that someone comes on here stating he is a huge winner and pays no PC.
Yet none of the perennial PC complainers question this in any form or manner, either in flat out disbelief or in an effort to understand how he/she does it.
What is his technoque that enables him to savoid the PC, apart from the basic obvious fact that he is generating charges week in week out in excess of the threshhold.?
Can they ( the whingers) perhaps learn something useful from this all round winner on BF.?
But none of you ( the whinges) seem to be the slightest bit interested in this ( for want of a better phrase )other more positive side of the PC equation.
Report buzzer January 12, 2011 6:55 PM GMT
Time to give up
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American Football: -£1,300.00 | Golf: £16,376.43 | Greyhound Racing: £122.67 | Horse Racing: -£92,979.64 | Soccer: -£2,878.09  | Tote:  |   Total P&L:  -£80,658.63

Horse Racing     Showing 1 - 20 of 765 markets
Market     Start time     Settled date     Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Oct : 1m Hcap     02-Oct-10 20:30     02-Oct-10 20:39     196.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Oct : 7f Claim Stks     02-Oct-10 19:00     02-Oct-10 19:07     -150.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Oct : 5f Sell Stks     02-Oct-10 18:30     02-Oct-10 18:37     -50.00
Horse Racing / Redc 2nd Oct : 1m2f Hcap     02-Oct-10 18:15     02-Oct-10 18:22     -4,725.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Oct : 6f Mdn Stks     02-Oct-10 18:00     02-Oct-10 18:06     147.00
Horse Racing / Font 2nd Oct : 1m6f NHF     02-Oct-10 17:50     02-Oct-10 17:56     -60.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Oct : 1m1f Hcap     02-Oct-10 17:30     02-Oct-10 17:35     744.80
Horse Racing / Newm 2nd Oct : 7f Hcap     02-Oct-10 16:50     02-Oct-10 16:55     -800.00
Horse Racing / Font 2nd Oct : 2m6f Hcap Chs     02-Oct-10 16:40     02-Oct-10 16:49     -20.00
Horse Racing / Font 2nd Oct : 2m2f Hcap Hrd     02-Oct-10 16:05     02-Oct-10 16:12     58.80
Horse Racing / Newm 2nd Oct : To Be Placed     02-Oct-10 15:40     02-Oct-10 15:54     -500.00
Horse Racing / Newm 2nd Oct : 1m1f Hcap     02-Oct-10 15:40     02-Oct-10 15:50     -475.00
Horse Racing / Redc 2nd Oct : 6f Listed     02-Oct-10 15:20     02-Oct-10 15:28     -10.00
Horse Racing / Newm 2nd Oct : To Be Placed     02-Oct-10 15:00     02-Oct-10 15:09     151.16
Horse Racing / Newm 2nd Oct : 1m Grp1     02-Oct-10 15:00     02-Oct-10 15:08     -100.00
Horse Racing / Epsm 2nd Oct : 1m2f Hcap     02-Oct-10 14:05     02-Oct-10 14:11     -287.27
Horse Racing / Newm 2nd Oct : 7f Stks     02-Oct-10 13:55     02-Oct-10 13:59     156.80
Horse Racing / Dund 1st Oct : 1m4f Hcap     01-Oct-10 21:25     01-Oct-10 21:33     -300.00
Horse Racing / Wolv 1st Oct : 1m1f Hcap     01-Oct-10 21:15     01-Oct-10 21:30     -400.00
Horse Racing / Dund 1st Oct : 1m2f Hcap     01-Oct-10 21:00     01-Oct-10 21:10     -150.00


A big turnaround for stapleton
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 12, 2011 7:02 PM GMT
Buzzer
You're saying he's not to be believed or believed?
Has he turned it all around in 3 mths or what ?
Report viva el presidente! January 12, 2011 7:03 PM GMT
so presumably you don't class me as a whinger then FAFH.
Report buzzer January 12, 2011 7:04 PM GMT
I've no idea FAFH, i see he plays the placepots too.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 12, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
I certainly do viva.
You hardly raised a questioning eyebrow at the Stapleton post really. Just acceptance it appeared.
Report Feck N. Eejit January 12, 2011 7:11 PM GMT
el pres reckons stape's turned it around by becoming an uber-ping-pong player. Laugh
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 12, 2011 7:15 PM GMT
I sort of meant Mgt that it might be deemed to be a bit positive to try to analyse how he does it and try to replicate him in some form or manner ( if possible) to reduce or eliminate your own PC charges.
Not up your street ?
Report curlywurly January 12, 2011 7:56 PM GMT
I sort of meant Mgt that it might be deemed to be a bit positive to try to analyse how he does it and try to replicate him in some form or manner ( if possible) to reduce or eliminate your own PC charges.

Really???
I'm sure management has never even considered how to try and reduce charges.
Report FINE AS FROG HAIR January 12, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
I don't know.
It would appear he has.
Report pxb January 12, 2011 8:27 PM GMT
Anyone else not paying the PC, because BF has given them a PC 'holiday'?
Report viva el presidente! January 12, 2011 11:32 PM GMT
oh - well that's odd. because I haven't paid any PC for months, almost certainly because I'm doing similar stuff to stapleton (if he's for real) allbeit on a much smaller scale. in fact, the strategies I use to avoid it have opened up new ways to make money.

but none of that's changed my opinion about the legitimacy of the PC, or about the way it's been introduced and managed.
Report U.A. January 13, 2011 1:30 PM GMT
quick question. On my premium charge guide screen i have a "Commission Generated" line along with "other charges" and "Premium Charges (exc.last week)". The first one makes sense but it seeems that the other two both seem to be in relation to the £1000 allowance. Does anyone know why these two have been split out or have i got it wrong/am missing something?

Cheers.
Report Mr Magoo January 13, 2011 1:37 PM GMT
The "Other Charges" includes things like data/bet charges (for accessing Betfair too much, or making > 1000 bets/hour)
Report U.A. January 13, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
Ok thanks. What do you mean by accessing Betfair too much. If I only access the website manually through a mouse, would I still be eligible for these charges. Don't worry too much if you are not sure, I may have to give them a call.
Report jimmy69 January 13, 2011 2:15 PM GMT
No. Someone who uses a mouse is unlikely to encounter these "other charges".
Report U.A. January 13, 2011 2:19 PM GMT
Ok thanks for that, i'll have to give them a call to try and figure out if i've completely missed something or if they have "accidentally" made a mistake.
Report jabmast January 13, 2011 2:25 PM GMT
"Other Charges" also includes what would have been charged via Premium Charge had it been introduced earlier than it was (they let you off that bit kindly).
Report U.A. January 13, 2011 3:02 PM GMT
Ah brilliant that definitely applies to me, ok thanks for that, that solves it.
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