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USING KELLY ON HORSE BACKING ONLY
DFCIRONMAN
DFCIRONMAN
06 Jan 11 00:25
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LAYING horses on the last thread has been very COSTLY experience.

Therefore, as I want to concentrate on BACKING only in WIN and PLACE markets, I am going to start a new thread today where I -


1. Use the KELLY CALCULATOR and

2. Restrict my selection to 1 horse in races where I feel there is a strong chance to WIN or PLACE.


I need to decide the PLACE part of using KC...................and won't always back to PLACE, as sometimes a horse will either WIN .......and if jockey etc etc does not believe it can win ....might not PLACE.


Just for last 3 months totals have been....on other thread


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Horse Racing: -£2,668.72 | Soccer: £3,222.40 | Tote: |  Total P&L:  £553.68


SOCCER bets subsidising HORSE LAY losses...................

£4,000 was lost on HORSES due to LAY HITS over 4 days ......3 of those days when circumstances were very disrupted due to close family illness.......and because I probably am OVER STAKING liabilities on LAYS.

From now on, hopefully, I will be helped by using the KC.....and if I have sufficient edges on HORSES re BACKING......then the profits should be made over course of year.

G M the noooooooooooooooooooo


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DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 1:57 PM GMT
ABOUT £225 IN PROFIT AFTER DELORAIN RACE.....WITH MASHDOOD 2ND AND COVER WIN BET ON DELORAIN...
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:01 PM GMT
2.10 PASS .......think I am running out of steammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....had another late night due to illness of close family member...so little sleep had!
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:02 PM GMT
2.20 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:06 PM GMT
2.30 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:10 PM GMT
2.40

NOT A KELLY BETTING RACE FOR ME...

GB / Newc 11th Jan / 14:40 To Be Placed       Bubbly Breeze      Back            11-Jan-11
14:08           6.4     12.00         7.87     11-Jan-11 14:08    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 14:40 2m6f Hcap Hrd     Thatlldoforme     Back         11-Jan-11
14:08           18     3.00         19     11-Jan-11 14:08    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 14:40 2m6f Hcap Hrd     Too Cool To Fool     Back          11-Jan-11
14:08           6.6     3.00         7     11-Jan-11 14:08    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 14:40 2m6f Hcap Hrd     Young Buddy     Back          11-Jan-11
14:08           15     3.00         15     11-Jan-11 14:08    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 14:40 2m6f Hcap Hrd     Bubbly Breeze     Back         11-Jan-11
14:08           29     3.00         30     11-Jan-11 14:08
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
2.50 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:15 PM GMT
3.00 AGAIN ...NOT USING KELLY CALCULATOR ...

GB / Leic 11th Jan / 15:00 2m Nov Hrd       Art Broker      Back            11-Jan-11
14:14           14     3.00         14.5     11-Jan-11 14:14    
    GB / Leic 11th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed     Action Hawk     Back         11-Jan-11
14:14           34     3.00         34     11-Jan-11 14:14    
    GB / Leic 11th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed     Art Broker     Back         11-Jan-11
14:13           2.44     7.00         2.44     11-Jan-11 14:13    
    GB / Leic 11th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed     Bold Adventure     Back         11-Jan-11
14:13           2.74     15.00         2.74     11-Jan-11 14:13    
    GB / Leic 11th Jan / 15:00 2m Nov Hrd     Bold Adventure     Back     11-Jan-11
14:13           15     4.00         15.5     11-Jan-11 14:13
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:45 PM GMT
3.10 STILL NOT USING KELLY CALCULATOR

GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:10 To Be Placed       Apache Brave      Back            11-Jan-11
14:43           5.8     6.00         5.88     11-Jan-11 14:43    

     GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:10 To Be Placed       Ice Image      Back            11-Jan-11
14:36           3.95     12.00         3.98     11-Jan-11 14:36    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:10 2m4f Hcap Chs     Iriss Flyer     Back          11-Jan-11
14:35           7.4     3.00         7.6     11-Jan-11 14:35    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:10 2m4f Hcap Chs     Apache Brave     Back         11-Jan-11
14:35           27     3.00         28.7     11-Jan-11 14:35    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:10 2m4f Hcap Chs     Ice Image     Back         11-Jan-11
14:34           16     3.00         16.5     11-Jan-11 14:34    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:10 2m4f Hcap Chs     Do It For Dalkey     Back          11-Jan-11
14:34           3.7     9.00         3.8     11-Jan-11 14:34
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:49 PM GMT
3.20 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:50 PM GMT
3.30 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:52 PM GMT
3.40   STILL NOT USING KC


GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:40 2m NHF       Mordetta Road      Back            11-Jan-11
14:41           260     2.00         270     11-Jan-11 14:41    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:40 2m NHF     Heather Glen     Back         11-Jan-11
14:41           17     3.00         17.33     11-Jan-11 14:41    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:40 To Be Placed     High Expectation     Back          11-Jan-11
14:41           2.32     12.00         2.32     11-Jan-11 14:41    
    GB / Newc 11th Jan / 15:40 2m NHF     High Expectation     Back     11-Jan-11
14:40           9.2     6.00         9.2     11-Jan-11 14:40
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
3.50 PASS ...ONLY 7 RUNNERS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 2:59 PM GMT
4.00

        KELLY CALCULATOR FOR PLACE MARKET                    WIN/        STAKE       
        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
04:00    DOUBLE HANDFUL    7.4    4169        5%    7.08    15%    6.6667    1.02%    42.51    15W-27.51PL
zipper
Report zipper • January 11, 2011 3:01 PM GMT
DFC  your post  re The Magic Bishop  v my Nap  Rolecarr  Take a look at the form  Magic  Bishop ran 8 times  86027306 looks like a telephone  number .. heres the laugh when zips nap hit the frame  and today it was second   zips won plenty   follow me in the naps comp  and you will win plenty . forget all  about this £5 each way .. zip bets  1 point win  6 points place  or 2 points win  12 points place .. 3 points win  18 points place  and so on
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 3:02 PM GMT
4.00 OTHER BETS
GB / Leic 11th Jan / 16:00 2m Hcap Hrd       Swiss Guard      Back            11-Jan-11
14:57           10.5     4.00         11.5     11-Jan-11 14:57    
    GB / Leic 11th Jan / 16:00 2m Hcap Hrd     Dormouse     Back         11-Jan-11
14:56           5     9.00         5.1     11-Jan-11 14:56    
    GB / Leic 11th Jan / 16:00 To Be Placed     True Blue Saga     Back         11-Jan-11
14:56           7.6     4.00         7.8     11-Jan-11 14:56    
   

     GB / Leic 11th Jan / 16:00 2m Hcap Hrd       Bromhead      Back            10-Jan-11
22:18           3.5     12.00         3.33     10-Jan-11 22:18    
    GB / Leic 11th Jan / 16:00 2m Hcap Hrd     True Blue Saga     Back          10-Jan-11
22:18           12     12.00         19.1     10-Jan-11 22:18    
    GB / Leic 11th Jan / 16:00 To Be Placed     True Blue Saga     Back         10-Jan-11
22:17           5.2     9.00         4.62     10-Jan-11 22:17
zipper
Report zipper • January 11, 2011 3:06 PM GMT
Yesterday My nap  Black Coffee  4 on the nose  to win , 24 its in the frame .. you do the maths
zipper
Report zipper • January 11, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
Kelly  dont tell you that .. kelly my backside
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 3:15 PM GMT
zipper - you are too set in your ways ....

You tell me to GIVE UP on using KELLY CALCULATOR etc etc .......but it is ok for YOU to carry on and not GIVE UP when you hit a losing run etc etc ....Did you not start with £2,000 on your thread with shanelee1966???? Were you not saying I NEVER GIVE UP etc etc

Your bank was down to around £500 yesterday............and you still say I am good enough to NOT GIVE UP etc etc ....

So i am IN PROFIT using KELLY CALCULATOR .....and you are TELLING me to GIVE UP etc etc ......mmmmmmmmm...Not much logic really is there....considering you are currently LOSING on thread ......and I am "winning2 on mine.....


So perhaps it is YOU zip that needs to appraise whether you should GIVE UPDevilLaugh
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
Only a "bit of fun"Laugh
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 3:53 PM GMT
zipper Joined: 06 Jul 02
Replies: 3423 11 Jan 11 15:01 
DFC  your post  re The Magic Bishop  v my Nap  Rolecarr  Take a look at the form  Magic  Bishop ran 8 times  86027306 looks like a telephone  number .. heres the laugh when zips nap hit the frame  and today it was second   zips won plenty   follow me in the naps comp  and you will win plenty . forget all  about this £5 each way .. zip bets  1 point win  6 points place  or 2 points win  12 points place .. 3 points win  18 points place  and so on
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Never saw this post zip........

Your LOGIC is just not working well today zip.......remember I got the 18-1 SP winner in race.....you only got 2nd.

Also, i am still AHEAD of you in annual comp figs.....so SHOULD YOU NOT BE FOLLOWING MY SELECTIONS ?DevilLaugh
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
Once again ...choice of 2 horses for nap ....1 wins 18-1 SP ....other the selection ...nowhere....

I am knackered today .......but did bet on the 2 of em early on ....and took first one i saw on CURRENT BETS......AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....Still in profit on day though ...I think!
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 4:19 PM GMT
TUESDAY RESULTS - DAY 6 ON THREAD


Horse Racing: £112.85 PROFIT

Horse Racing     Showing 1 - 20 of 24 markets
Market     Start time     Settled date     Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 16:00     11-Jan-11 16:11     -40.00
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : 2m Hcap Hrd     11-Jan-11 16:00     11-Jan-11 16:11     -6.10
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 15:40     11-Jan-11 15:48     -15.00
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : 2m NHF     11-Jan-11 15:40     11-Jan-11 15:47     -11.00
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 15:10     11-Jan-11 15:22     -18.00
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : 2m4f Hcap Chs     11-Jan-11 15:10     11-Jan-11 15:20     15.58
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 15:00     11-Jan-11 15:06     -7.92
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : 2m Nov Hrd     11-Jan-11 15:00     11-Jan-11 15:06     -7.00
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : 2m6f Hcap Hrd     11-Jan-11 14:40     11-Jan-11 14:52     8.66
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 14:40     11-Jan-11 14:51     -12.00
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 14:00     11-Jan-11 14:07     -15.00
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : 2m4f Sell Hrd     11-Jan-11 14:00     11-Jan-11 14:07     -6.00
Horse Racing / Sthl 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 13:50     11-Jan-11 13:58     77.46
Horse Racing / Sthl 11th Jan : 2m Hcap     11-Jan-11 13:50     11-Jan-11 13:57     2.89
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : 2m Hcap Hrd     11-Jan-11 13:40     11-Jan-11 13:50     218.94
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 13:40     11-Jan-11 13:49     319.96
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 13:30     11-Jan-11 13:37     -147.65
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : 2m4f Hcap Chs     11-Jan-11 13:30     11-Jan-11 13:37     -17.00
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 13:10     11-Jan-11 13:22     -49.97
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : 3m Beg Chs     11-Jan-11 13:10     11-Jan-11 13:21     -14.00
Pages: 1  2   of 2 Pages


Horse Racing     Showing 21 - 24 of 24 markets
Market     Start time     Settled date     Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 13:00     11-Jan-11 13:06     -48.00
Horse Racing / Leic 11th Jan : 2m Nov Hrd     11-Jan-11 13:00     11-Jan-11 13:05     -27.00
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : To Be Placed     11-Jan-11 12:40     11-Jan-11 12:51     -79.00
Horse Racing / Newc 11th Jan : 2m4f Nov Hrd     11-Jan-11 12:40     11-Jan-11 12:50     -10.00
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Used KELLY CALCULATOR on only 6 races today ......and only got 1 horse winning ......but it was at good odds....and enabled a profit to be made today.

It was a tricky day to make a profit....due to GOING being not "clear" IMO at all 3 courses........so making a reasonable profit on such a day is "good".

Cheers the noooooooooooooooooo



BTW - FAFH ...I'm really too tired to respond to earlier post ...but will eventually get round to it.
zipper
Report zipper • January 11, 2011 4:26 PM GMT
DFC  heres my reply   ..what ever .. good luck you will need it
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 4:30 PM GMT
TODAYS BETS USING CALCULATOR WERE...

STAKE                        WIN    PLACE       
% OF                        ODDS    ODDS       
    ADVISED    STAKE        WIN    PLACE    DFC    DFC       
BANK    STAKE    BET        BF SP    BF SP    OBTAINED    OBTAINED       
3.28%    130.13    66        XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    HANNAH JACQUES    12:40
4.74    187.91    9W-48PL        XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    MANDALAY PRINCE    01:00
1.44%    55.97    12W-43.97PL        XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    MISTER MARKER    01:10
2.99%    113.66    6W-113.66PL        XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    ORGANIZE    01:30
2.44%    92.93    12/104.83    1ST 18-1SP    22.46    5.1    20.96    4.52    THE MAGIC BISHOP    01:40
1.02%    42.51    15W-27.51PL        XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    XXXXXX    DOUBLE HANDFUL    04:00
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 4:32 PM GMT
I did put on a bit more to PLACE and WIN on THE MAGIC BISHOP ......after I posted to thread....as considered it to possibly hold a strong chance to place ...and could well win ...which it did.

KELLY "experts" may want to comment on this ......or zipperDevilLaugh


Cheers the noooooooooooooooooooooo
zipper
Report zipper • January 11, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
DFC  your a pain in the arse  this is the   last one from zip   and i mean the last one
Experts .. now listern up   ,, if you fancy one  the bet is  £100  win  ..£600 place  thats £700 pounds .. if you dont fancy losing  £700 pounds .... stay out
zipper
Report zipper • January 11, 2011 5:27 PM GMT
Good night  God Bless ...zip
Tightfisted
Report Tightfisted • January 11, 2011 7:58 PM GMT
    date        NAP        won        BSP        plcd        Plc         £700 nap bet        £700 nap P/L        £100+600plc bets        100w+600plc P/L   
                                                                               
    01-Aug        Mister Benedictine        0        20.18        0        4.69        -700        -700        -700        -700   
    02-Aug        Le Forezien        0        9.99        1        3.52        -700        -1400        1334        634   
            continued…                                                                   
    01-Jan        I've Been Framed                        1        5.50        1        2.28        2993        1583        1157        -944   
    02-Jan        Master Overseer                  0        6.40        1        2.64        -700        883        835        -109   
    03-Jan        Golden Button             0        4.15        0        1.52        -700        183        -700        -809   
    04-Jan        Guns Of Love                              0        10.00        0        3.05        -700        -517        -700        -1509   
    05-Jan        Abriachan        0        16.87        0        3.20        -700        -1217        -700        -2209   
    06-Jan        John Potts        1        6.33        1        2.40        3544        2328        1304        -904   
    07-Jan        You'relikemefrank        1        4.01        1        1.61        2002        4329        634        -271   
    08-Jan        Vagrant Emperor        0        6.80        0        2.44        -700        3629        -700        -971   
    09-Jan        Jayo           0        5.47        0        2.22        -700        2929        -700        -1671   
    10-Jan        Black Coffee         1        5.52        1        1.85        3006        5935        1398        -272   


Guess who's been telling porkies???  [:o]
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 8:36 PM GMT
zipper - I don't know what medication you are on .....but the ANNUAL NAPS TABLE FOR 2010 SHOWS POSITION FOR THAT YEAR ......AND THAT IS THE FACT FOR LAST CURRENT YEAR ...


Pos     Tipster     2010 Total     Dec     Nov     Oct     Sep     Aug     Jul     Jun     May     Apr     Mar     Feb     Jan
1     Weaver Fish     32.88     05.07     00.32     10.04     23.39     04.57     -04.74     -05.15     03.12     -16.30     10.70     03.93     -02.07
2     I am the one and only223     26.93     04.80     -03.96     10.69     -05.25     10.38     -06.11     -02.66     01.78     39.04     03.03     -11.89     -12.92
3     little.bobby     26.14     -06.32     -04.60     15.24     08.36     -02.85     09.57     06.82     08.97     -04.78     -07.22     01.01     01.94
4     swift-tuttle     23.73     13.91     25.12     -08.50     -22.00     01.70     -03.50     14.00     16.00     -01.00     -17.00     20.00     -15.00
5     DFCIRONMAN     18.22     -10.50     15.13     -15.17     -25.50     02.33     -08.90     20.83     32.00     -02.00     -01.00     01.00     10.00
6     The Fruity Kiwi and his Gerbil     15.52     16.10     -07.89     08.78     02.62     -00.44     10.40     -03.57     -05.21     02.44     -05.10     -09.34     06.73
7     The Lord BUSH     12.64     -12.47     06.97     02.87     -05.05     -09.16     08.97     -01.44     21.66     04.60     -08.14     06.65     -02.82
8     soldieroffortune     12.05     -04.53     -01.06     -05.59     -01.26     -07.20     -05.87     01.19     18.66     05.71     07.96     -03.71     07.75
9     Usaidit     12.04     -05.88     -16.92     -05.59     -05.63     -09.63     09.50     -12.18     04.12     24.50     04.00     12.50     13.25
10     mini me     07.71     16.53     04.58     -05.23     09.96     09.32     10.69     -15.19     -06.38     -07.69     -06.20     -07.95     05.27
11     heeore     04.24     00.64     02.09     -06.05     03.18     15.30     00.22     -01.58     05.57     -10.57     21.48     -16.39     -09.65
12     GEORGE.B     01.41     04.02     00.66     -03.08     03.22     -02.51     04.18     12.33     -09.11     05.91     05.79     -10.00     -10.00
13     Value Seeker     -03.84     06.00     17.57     -08.50     -07.75     09.08     -08.20     -03.60     -06.49     -06.59     20.52     -05.80     -10.08
14     scissors     -06.27     08.32     14.28     11.23     -08.90     -15.10     07.35     -03.58     -04.51     -00.42     -08.68     -08.89     02.63
15     razmos     -06.68     -10.62     01.53     -04.59     15.00     -05.49     -07.17     -13.37     -00.72     -01.79     02.20     05.29     13.05
16     la mallatiere     -07.33     -02.33     10.46     -04.87     -05.03     01.67     -04.62     -05.05     -05.32     -05.52     10.64     10.61     -07.97
17     look - it's snowing     -08.96     -13.34     05.67     -03.36     04.23     15.45     17.19     -06.91     -07.90     -05.76     -09.54     -05.59     00.90
18     Moose     -08.98     -01.69     03.60     12.28     -08.97     -07.28     -09.03     05.44     -06.54     11.65     -06.89     05.96     -07.51
19     One Shot 2 Shot     -09.14     -02.46     -12.23     15.60     02.50     15.66     -08.75     03.23     09.98     -13.75     -06.12     -00.30     -12.50
20     bosstipper     -09.49     -00.50     10.12     -06.50     05.32     -13.25     -08.00     -02.17     -02.26     -04.94     26.48     -07.39     -06.40
21     undecided     -09.92     02.06     06.25     12.23     -08.00     -02.50     04.16     09.88     -18.00     28.50     -28.00     00.50     -17.00
22     get in there gamsty!     -10.35     -01.06     04.85     -07.52     03.46     -11.46     -03.00     03.56     04.67     -11.68     03.68     04.33     -00.18
23     neogenic     -10.41     -08.22     -06.22     00.82     -07.52     01.79     05.67     05.53     -13.60     18.13     -09.65     05.11     -02.25
24     SOULDANCER     -15.17     -19.00     20.00     15.14     14.50     -27.25     02.50     -16.50     03.00     08.00     -09.39     07.75     -13.92
25     Lampus     -17.49     07.51     -03.51     -09.54     -04.11     -06.95     -06.47     07.17     08.07     05.00     -03.69     -04.16     -06.81
26     old applejack     -18.84     08.75     00.10     03.76     25.50     03.84     -16.56     -17.72     -03.01     14.03     -10.53     -17.00     -10.00
27     caulkhead     -20.46     -06.04     -12.59     01.49     01.48     -00.27     -03.17     -00.59     13.05     -09.36     -01.08     01.95     -05.33
28     DAN1974     -21.82     03.54     -02.73     14.59     -02.21     11.04     -01.94     -01.34     01.10     -11.00     05.92     -23.67     -15.12
29     Tightfisted     -21.85     12.17     08.73     05.46     12.63     11.50     -09.33     -02.64     -21.90     -22.89     05.58     -10.17     -10.99
30     The Grey One     -22.78     05.98     00.45     -06.88     -15.14     02.05     -04.70     08.03     11.61     -15.06     07.74     -13.50     -03.36
31     general custer     -23.58     -07.70     06.17     -04.95     05.13     01.43     -03.57     -08.69     -13.86     -05.20     10.41     11.59     -14.34
32     Fidway.     -24.34     07.11     -04.29     09.67     19.39     09.78     12.12     06.69     10.82     -26.00     -27.00     -25.00     -17.63
33     cannyman     -24.83     -06.26     -03.43     -04.30     09.25     -07.29     -08.90     -05.88     -02.84     06.12     15.58     -09.61     -07.27
34     fruitcobbler     -27.94     -24.00     -10.45     -10.49     21.67     -08.39     05.13     04.29     -07.37     08.37     -07.52     -02.47     03.29
35     lester pickit     -29.32     -05.81     08.22     04.87     00.89     -07.40     07.87     -04.09     -08.51     -10.12     00.41     -03.98     -11.67
36     Kentish Man     -29.97     -00.12     -03.14     -03.97     -05.10     -05.38     -03.89     02.65     -00.19     -01.77     -01.19     -02.02     -05.85
37     alist5     -32.27     11.82     05.86     -05.87     11.52     -05.75     -08.71     -11.15     00.22     -06.75     -04.92     -11.54     -07.00
38     shanelee1966     -35.88     27.49     -07.25     -05.74     -07.77     -09.67     06.00     -06.02     -04.04     -13.08     -10.72     05.92     -11.00
39     Hilly     -37.11     -03.33     -03.97     00.49     -06.98     -07.21     06.90     -08.62     -04.99     -06.36     -07.58     -00.60     05.14
40     salmon spray     -38.29     -03.94     -00.98     -03.34     09.29     -04.76     -06.84     -02.49     -06.43     -05.52     00.00     -04.05     -09.23
41     feed the goat......     -38.95     -16.00     -05.00     -11.96     -04.08     05.00     -08.59     09.52     -16.21     -03.80     -01.63     13.35     00.45
42     the pretender     -39.43     -03.34     -03.90     -05.51     -03.32     -12.16     -10.90     19.40     05.43     02.15     -11.03     05.93     -22.18
43     MOB     -39.53     -08.89     -14.79     -00.68     -02.42     05.60     -18.11     -04.00     06.46     07.29     13.22     -17.94     -05.27
44     khyber kim     -43.35     -24.00     21.13     -06.12     09.84     -03.28     -07.47     -09.19     -06.30     -07.63     -00.14     -07.59     -02.60
45     Lucky Blue     -43.84     -07.67     16.88     -01.00     04.34     -03.48     14.20     -17.11     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
46     Poppydog.     -44.58     09.55     -10.06     -07.31     02.00     -16.48     -09.31     -10.36     -12.37     16.05     01.14     -06.16     -01.27
47     Draw1     -46.10     -03.67     00.28     -02.01     -05.29     -08.62     -03.01     -05.72     -00.85     02.32     -09.20     -00.59     -09.74
48     polo minx     -46.26     -08.20     16.37     -05.48     -13.99     13.17     09.23     -12.91     -10.62     -15.75     -13.57     00.81     -05.32
49     bettysboy     -46.40     -24.00     -10.62     -05.37     -13.62     -11.17     28.63     -03.67     -15.50     -05.67     34.59     -10.00     -10.00
50     Far From Trouble     -47.07     -24.00     -21.50     20.25     -24.00     21.50     -10.45     -26.00     -17.50     14.75     03.00     01.92     14.96
51     journalist     -47.17     04.50     21.46     -03.06     -26.00     -08.75     31.50     06.77     -02.42     -25.00     -09.67     -16.00     -20.50
52     Red Bloom     -47.78     -06.02     -08.04     -03.15     -03.35     -04.78     -08.09     00.44     -12.25     08.21     03.17     -06.76     -07.16
53     the dealer     -50.75     -20.25     -21.00     80.50     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
54     mewho     -51.36     -03.79     -10.90     09.00     08.00     01.33     05.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
55     madhatter     -52.52     -06.13     -03.85     05.33     -19.50     -17.75     00.88     06.75     -07.00     01.00     -01.00     -10.12     -01.13
56     Hoss     -53.73     -11.61     -04.03     -11.50     21.88     00.00     -08.50     -03.37     -11.15     -14.00     -08.28     01.10     -04.27
57     Red Hand     -54.09     -11.60     -10.16     -16.40     02.58     -07.16     -02.27     03.88     -08.06     -01.81     01.92     -04.98     -00.03
58     grendel     -54.19     26.38     -09.02     -08.52     -11.71     -14.78     -02.75     10.38     12.75     -16.00     -11.67     -07.82     -21.43
59     miscreant man     -56.05     -02.43     15.42     13.13     03.84     -22.75     -18.50     -12.54     07.78     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
60     dawnhillwalker     -57.51     -04.09     -00.87     00.59     -09.60     -01.91     -13.32     -03.42     -03.95     -10.13     02.47     -06.17     -07.11
61     sing when ur winning     -57.64     -06.75     -00.24     -06.14     -07.25     01.83     -04.50     -00.76     -10.50     -04.84     11.03     -21.50     -08.02
62     learning thegame     -59.66     -05.18     -06.52     -06.28     03.53     -09.31     -09.97     -05.18     -07.36     -08.02     -08.57     -03.82     07.02
63     betme     -63.61     -09.12     -08.16     00.95     -03.79     03.64     -15.67     10.92     -22.67     -10.75     07.49     -03.50     -12.95
64     man of many moods     -65.03     -10.68     -03.01     -12.25     -15.33     08.43     -11.82     10.64     -15.22     09.60     -08.12     -04.46     -12.81
65     FCH     -65.14     -11.51     07.68     -06.06     -04.25     05.13     -10.79     -16.50     08.49     -14.09     -20.40     00.75     -03.59
66     Orchardist     -65.29     -07.68     -22.05     -10.08     00.76     13.77     22.45     -25.65     07.19     -15.50     -08.50     -10.00     -10.00
67     zipper     -65.65     -00.01     -08.49     -05.06     16.92     -15.00     -27.00     -26.00     20.37     -05.40     -03.93     -11.25     -00.80
68     Healing Hands     -70.80     00.11     01.35     -06.09     -03.34     -10.12     -08.85     -12.69     -05.95     05.55     -10.77     -10.00     -10.00
69     Aquarius     -70.99     -14.60     -09.55     -16.50     -10.27     -15.32     01.19     08.86     -02.75     -06.56     -03.42     06.05     -08.12
70     Kwalker     -71.03     -11.20     -00.70     -11.56     -06.36     -04.23     -21.69     -10.51     00.32     -05.15     03.27     05.57     -08.79
71     potlessagain     -71.19     06.52     25.22     -12.93     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
72     Andrew in Sweden     -71.99     -07.65     -03.36     -11.45     -03.31     -08.07     09.20     -04.90     -09.74     -06.92     -05.94     -07.65     -12.20
73     Mooono     -72.27     -05.56     08.59     14.46     -09.76     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
74     Horny38DD     -73.23     -06.65     -09.06     -02.56     02.36     07.83     -05.15     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
75     de44ek4     -74.20     03.00     -17.00     -10.00     -20.50     -23.50     19.50     -08.30     -13.00     -11.50     04.00     05.60     -02.50
76     Ricky Santini     -77.31     -07.27     -11.30     -02.79     -10.14     -10.60     -09.84     -09.31     04.07     -15.82     03.16     -06.28     -01.19
77     bushwakka     -79.84     -24.00     -09.50     14.08     04.50     05.08     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
78     KBGJ     -82.15     05.83     -01.05     -10.06     -01.79     -20.55     13.02     -16.60     -08.49     02.63     -20.82     -13.52     -10.75
79     shearer2therestcue     -83.88     -04.79     06.23     -19.75     -19.15     10.61     -13.71     -05.85     -13.73     06.26     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
80     twm.     -85.88     -23.00     -19.00     -14.00     -07.14     00.26     -09.98     03.24     02.26     -08.34     -05.51     -12.15     07.48
81     BinocularsNotNeeded     -86.99     -10.06     -04.38     -11.00     -12.90     15.07     -17.68     03.96     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
82     Stretch Armstrong     -87.63     -03.60     -16.38     04.51     03.29     -05.45     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
83     TD_Gunner     -91.91     -24.00     -07.72     -05.68     03.25     -10.88     -01.80     -09.71     09.25     -02.33     -26.43     -05.86     -10.00
84     tryoffagain     -92.57     -07.47     -08.75     -10.23     -08.00     -11.33     -04.45     02.13     -12.02     -07.94     -11.14     00.01     -13.38
85     N-east Correspondent     -94.50     -22.00     04.50     13.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00     -10.00
86     josh monk     -94.58     -08.62     17.33     -14.00     -26.00     -02.17     -14.75     -07.50     06.25     -16.75     -18.25     -24.75     14.63
87     mr d ferret     -94.76     03.63     13.40     -11.82     -26.00     -26.00     -27.00     00.75     -00.96     -13.38     05.26     00.32     -12.96
88     penzance     -96.37     13
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 8:40 PM GMT
So last year I was over 80 POINTS ahead of you zip .......therefore .....do you still believe I should be FOLLOWING your bets .....or should you not just accept the FACT .....my selections have been better than yours in 2010 in comp....FACT!

Don't go stating I'm telling PORKIES on this thread ...as the above year is all that matters as it reflects how many points difference there was between us.

I am not saying you are not a very knowledgeable person re HORSE RACING ( LAYING anyway Laugh) but as far as BACKING goes .....I think I am ok at that and have no NEED to follow your bets etc etc...SOME of which are just bad bets IMO.......as are mine too!

Gl with bets.
Tightfisted
Report Tightfisted • January 11, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
I give up. [smiley:crazy]
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 11, 2011 11:19 PM GMT
Most unlikely to be posting tomorrow ....have to go with family member to hospital etc etc

So posting only bet on nap's race.....Not using KC as too knackered....



2.50

GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd       Himrayn      Back             11-Jan-11
23:15           18.5     2.00         18.81     11-Jan-11 23:15    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd     Takaatuf     Back          11-Jan-11
23:14           60     2.00         63.03     11-Jan-11 23:14    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd     Burnt Oak     Back         11-Jan-11
23:13           22     3.00         23.44     11-Jan-11 23:13    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd     The Panama Kid     Back      11-Jan-11
23:13           26     3.00         28.05     11-Jan-11 23:13    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd     Wild Desert     Back         11-Jan-11
23:13           4     4.00         6.1     11-Jan-11 23:13    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd     Crop Walker     Back          11-Jan-11
23:13           15.5     3.00         16     11-Jan-11 23:13    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 To Be Placed     Crop Walker     Back         11-Jan-11
23:12           3.95     9.00         4     11-Jan-11 23:12    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 To Be Placed     The Panama Kid     Back         11-Jan-11
23:11           5.2     8.00         5.49     11-Jan-11 23:11    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 To Be Placed     China Gold     Back          11-Jan-11
23:10           2.48     36.00         2.54     11-Jan-11 23:10    
    GB / Donc 12th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd     China Gold     Back         11-Jan-11
23:10           9.4     15.00         9.6     11-Jan-11 23:10



GL with bets.
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 12:40 PM GMT
Results of above race on DAY 7 yesterday :-

Horse Racing / Donc 12th Jan : To Be Placed       12-Jan-11 14:50       12-Jan-11 14:58      34.75
Horse Racing / Donc 12th Jan : 2m3f Hcap Hrd     12-Jan-11 14:50     12-Jan-11 14:58     -16.84
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 12:48 PM GMT
Update on results of races on this thread ....

THURSDAY RESULTS-  DAY 1..................PROFIT...£ 91.47
FRIDAY RESULTS - DAY 2....................PROFIT... 224.76
SATURDAY RESULTS - DAY 3..................LOSS... (  84.33  )
SUNDAY RESULTS - DAY 4....................LOSS... ( 170.77  )
MONDAY RESULTS - DAY 5....................PROFIT... 164.96
TUESDAY RESULTS - DAY 6...................PROFIT... 112.85
WEDNESDAY RESULTS - DAY 7 ................PROFIT...  17.91

CUMULATIVE PROFIT ON THREAD........................ 356.85
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 12:51 PM GMT
12.50 MISSED THE RACE...PROBABLY WOULD HAVE PASSED ANYWAY!

1.00 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:08 PM GMT
1.10

        KELLY CALCULATOR FOR PLACE MARKET                    WIN/        STAKE       
        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
01:10    SHOULDHAVENOWNBETTR        3836    32    5%    30.45    5%    20    1.77%    68.06    3W-15PL
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:10 PM GMT
1.10 OTHER BETS

GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:10 2m1f Nov Hrd       Togiak      Back             13-Jan-11
13:05           2.84     6.00         2.84     13-Jan-11 13:05    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:10 2m1f Nov Hrd     Valley View     Back         13-Jan-11
13:05           5.6     6.00         5.8     13-Jan-11 13:05    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:10 2m1f Nov Hrd     Caddie Master     Back         13-Jan-11
13:05           85     3.00         90     13-Jan-11 13:05    
        
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:10 To Be Placed     Valley View     Back         13-Jan-11
13:04           2.1     24.00         2.16     13-Jan-11 13:04    
        
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:10 To Be Placed       Caddie Master      Back             13-Jan-11
12:59           10     8.00         10.04     13-Jan-11 13:01
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:12 PM GMT
1.20 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:12 PM GMT
1.30 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:34 PM GMT
1.40

        KELLY CALCULATOR FOR PLACE MARKET                    WIN/        STAKE       
        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
01:40    GUYDUS        3761    5.6    5%    5.37    20%    5    1.69%    63.69    8W-50.40PL


ONLY GOT SOME MONEY MATCHED AT 5.6 PLACE .....SO RESTRICTED PLACE BETS A BIT
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:36 PM GMT
1.40 OTHER BETS

GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:40 3m1f Hcap Chs       Sir Winston      Back       13304177932       13-Jan-11
13:21           5     6.00         5.1     13-Jan-11 13:21    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:40 3m1f Hcap Chs     Hobbs Dream     Back         13-Jan-11
13:21           4.2     6.00         4.2     13-Jan-11 13:21    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:40 3m1f Hcap Chs     Cold Harbour     Back         13-Jan-11
13:21           25     2.00         26     13-Jan-11 13:21    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:40 3m1f Hcap Chs     Ballymorn     Back         13-Jan-11
13:20           30     2.00         32     13-Jan-11 13:20

GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:40 To Be Placed       Ballymorn      Back           13-Jan-11
13:17           7     9.00         7.2     13-Jan-11 13:17    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:40 3m1f Hcap Chs     Copper Sound     Back         13-Jan-11
13:20           44     3.00         46     13-Jan-11 13:20
     GB / Here 13th Jan / 13:40 To Be Placed       Copper Sound      Back            13-Jan-11
13:17           9     9.00         9.4     13-Jan-11 13:17
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:38 PM GMT
1.50 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:39 PM GMT
2.00 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:48 PM GMT
DRAT 4TH GUYDUS....but managed to lay off STAKES for all place bets IRCool..as was a close 4th
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:55 PM GMT
2.10  RESTRICTED KELLY STAKING DUE TO NATURE OF RACE AND GOING.


        KELLY CALCULATOR FOR PLACE MARKET                    WIN/        STAKE       
        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
02:10    MISTER CONCUSSION        3761    50    5%    47.55    3%    3.3333    0.92%    34.46    3W-10PL
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
2.10 OTHER BETS

GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:10 2m6f Mdn Hrd       Grey Wulff      Back            13-Jan-11
13:51           9     2.00         10     13-Jan-11 13:51    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:10 2m6f Mdn Hrd     Gallant Oscar     Back          13-Jan-11
13:50           17.5     3.00         18     13-Jan-11 13:50    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:10 2m6f Mdn Hrd     Bennys Mist     Back         13-Jan-11
13:49           2     3.00         230     13-Jan-11 13:49    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:10 To Be Placed     Bennys Mist     Back          13-Jan-11
13:49           9     6.00         9     13-Jan-11 13:49    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:10 To Be Placed     Gallant Oscar     Back         13-Jan-11
13:49           2.66     18.00         2.84     13-Jan-11 13:49
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
Currently £ 72.20 loss so far before 2.10 race....
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:08 PM GMT
2.20 ONLY 3 PLACES IN LARGE FIELD , AND A LONG DISTANCE RACE...SO AGAIN HAVE RESTRICTED PLACE STAKES ETC

        KELLY CALCULATOR FOR PLACE MARKET                    WIN/        STAKE       
        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
02:20    ZITENKA        3764    4    5%    3.85    28.57%    3.5002    3.51%    132    6W-66PL
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:09 PM GMT
2.20 OTHER BETS


B / Catt 13th Jan / 14:20 3m6f Hcap Chs       Bay Cherry      Back            13-Jan-11
14:05           12.5     3.00         12.5     13-Jan-11 14:05    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 14:20 3m6f Hcap Chs     According To Pete     Back     13304951611     13-Jan-11
14:05           7.2     6.00         7.6     13-Jan-11 14:05    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 14:20 3m6f Hcap Chs     Cast Iron Casey     Back         13-Jan-11
14:05           9.4     9.00         9.49     13-Jan-11 14:05    
   
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 14:20 To Be Placed     Cast Iron Casey     Back         13-Jan-11
14:05           2.9     33.00         3.1     13-Jan-11 14:05
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:10 PM GMT
2.30 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:26 PM GMT
2.40

        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
02:40    SILVER FOOTNOTE    3.45    3690        5%    3.3275    33%    3.0303    4.21    158.61    30W-128.61PL
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:26 PM GMT
2.40 OTHER BETS

     GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:40 To Be Placed       Pearl      Back            13-Jan-11
14:23           5.5     12.00         5.52     13-Jan-11 14:23    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:40 2m6f Hcap Hrd     Pearl     Back         13-Jan-11
14:23           26     3.00         27     13-Jan-11 14:23    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:40 2m6f Hcap Hrd     Be Ashored     Back          13-Jan-11
14:22           13     12.00         13.5     13-Jan-11 14:22    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 14:40 To Be Placed     Be Ashored     Back         13-Jan-11
14:22           4     33.00         4     13-Jan-11 14:22
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:37 PM GMT
2.50

        KELLY CALCULATOR FOR PLACE MARKET                    WIN/        STAKE       
        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
02:50    IMPERIAL BREEZE        3641    5    5%    4.8    22%    4.5455    1.47%    53.66    6W-53.66PL
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
2.50 OTHER BETS

     GB / Catt 13th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd       Bocciani      Back            13-Jan-11
14:33           34     3.00         38     13-Jan-11 14:33    
       
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd     King Mak     Back         13-Jan-11
14:33           26     3.00         27     13-Jan-11 14:33    
       
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 14:50 2m3f Hcap Hrd     Front Rank     Back          13-Jan-11
14:33           85     3.00         100     13-Jan-11 14:33    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 14:50 To Be Placed     Front Rank     Back         13-Jan-11
14:33           18.5     9.00         19     13-Jan-11 14:33    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 14:50 To Be Placed     Bocciani     Back         13-Jan-11
14:32           6.2     12.00         6.2     13-Jan-11 14:32
jimmy69
Report jimmy69 • January 13, 2011 2:39 PM GMT
Is this thread of any use? I can't be bothered to read it.
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:40 PM GMT
NO RETURNS ...SO FAR ...THEREFORE £240.20 DOWN  BEFORE 2.40
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:46 PM GMT
BAD RESULT IN 2.40 ..............GOING MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SELECT HORSES TODAY........AT HEREFORD ESPECIALLY.
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:58 PM GMT
NEVER LAYED OFF IMPERIAL BREEZE STAKES IN PLACE OR WIN MARKET ...AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...STILL 3RD PLACE COVERS ALL BETS ...DRATTTTTTTTTTT
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 2:59 PM GMT
3.10 GOTTA PASS ...AS ODDS NOT ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH...AND HAVING DIFFICULTY RE HEREFORD SELECTIONS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:02 PM GMT
3.10 ....NOT USING KELLY CALCULATOR..AS STILL A BIT KNACKERED .....SO BETS ARE

GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:10 To Be Placed       Gleannacreim      Back             13-Jan-11
15:01           4     15.00         4.1     13-Jan-11 15:01    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:10 To Be Placed     Photogenique     Back         13-Jan-11
15:00           10.5     24.00         10.96     13-Jan-11 15:00    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:10 To Be Placed     Heezagrey     Back         13-Jan-11
15:00           2.58     18.00         2.66     13-Jan-11 15:00    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:10 3m2f Hcap Hrd     Photogenique     Back          13-Jan-11
15:00           80     6.00         104.13     13-Jan-11 15:00    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:10 3m2f Hcap Hrd     Heezagrey     Back     13-Jan-11
15:00           9     6.00         9.4     13-Jan-11 15:00    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:10 3m2f Hcap Hrd     Gleannacreim     Back         13-Jan-11
14:59           18     6.00         18     13-Jan-11 14:59
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:14 PM GMT
3.20

        KELLY CALCULATOR FOR PLACE MARKET                    WIN/        STAKE       
        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
03:20    MONSIEUR JOURDAIN        3364    4.5    5%    4.325    27%    3.7037    5.05%    169.77    18W-150.77
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
3.20 OTHER BETS

GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 To Be Placed       Peachey Moment      Back        13-Jan-11
15:13           5.7     33.00         5.92     13-Jan-11 15:13    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 To Be Placed     Earl Grez     Back         13-Jan-11
15:12           10.5     12.00         11.5     13-Jan-11 15:12    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 To Be Placed     Petrosian     Back         13-Jan-11
15:12           11.5     6.00         11.5     13-Jan-11 15:12    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 2m Hcap Chs     Heavenly Chorus     Back         13-Jan-11
15:12           3.55     12.00         3.75     13-Jan-11 15:12    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 2m Hcap Chs     Overbranch     Back         13-Jan-11
15:12           16     2.00         17     13-Jan-11 15:12    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 2m Hcap Chs     Grand Award     Back         13-Jan-11
15:12           5.8     6.00         6     13-Jan-11 15:12    
       
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 2m Hcap Chs     Petrosian     Back         13-Jan-11
15:11           75     3.00         80     13-Jan-11 15:11    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 2m Hcap Chs     Earl Grez     Back         13-Jan-11
15:11           60     3.00         65     13-Jan-11 15:11    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:20 To Be Placed     Petrosian     Back         13-Jan-11
15:09           11     9.00         11.26     13-Jan-11 15:09
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:17 PM GMT
HEREFORD...AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
3.30 NO CALCULATOR USED

     Forecast Betting / Sthl (F/C) 13th Jan / 15:30 Forecast       1 - 5      Back             13-Jan-11
15:21           18     6.00         18.48     13-Jan-11 15:21    
    GB / Sthl 13th Jan / 15:30 7f Hcap     Wigrams Turn     Back         13-Jan-11
15:21           95     4.00         95     13-Jan-11 15:21
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:31 PM GMT
3.40 NO CALCULATOR USED

GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:40 To Be Placed       Shadow Dancer      Back             13-Jan-11
15:29           2.3     66.00         2.3     13-Jan-11 15:29    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:40 2m Hcap Chs     Lord Singer     Back         13-Jan-11
15:28           7     6.00         7.4     13-Jan-11 15:28    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:40 2m Hcap Chs     Oscar Gogo     Back         13-Jan-11
15:28           7.6     6.00         8     13-Jan-11 15:28    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:40 2m Hcap Chs     Shadow Dancer     Back         13-Jan-11
15:28           6     18.00         6.4     13-Jan-11 15:28    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 15:40 2m Hcap Chs     Symphonick     Back         13-Jan-11
15:28           4.5     12.00         4.7     13-Jan-11 15:28
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:44 PM GMT
3.50 AGAIN ...NO CALCULATOR USED

B / Catt 13th Jan / 15:50 To Be Placed       Perfect Ending      Back            13-Jan-11
15:43           2.56     36.00         2.64     13-Jan-11 15:43    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:50 To Be Placed     Go Teescomponents     Back     13306576807     13-Jan-11
15:43           4.2     9.00         5.02     13-Jan-11 15:43    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:50 2m NHF     Capital Venture     Back         13-Jan-11
15:42           13.5     6.00         13.5     13-Jan-11 15:42    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:50 2m NHF     Go Teescomponents     Back         13-Jan-11
15:42           21     15.00         24     13-Jan-11 15:42    
    GB / Catt 13th Jan / 15:50 2m NHF     Perfect Ending     Back         13-Jan-11
15:42           7.4     15.00         7.4     13-Jan-11 15:42
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:48 PM GMT
Horrible day ..............Been selecting wrong TYPE of horses at HEREFORD ......mind just not in gear ...and PLACE bets today ....very very EXPENSIVE.
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:52 PM GMT
4.00 NO CALCULATOR USED AGAIN.

     GB / Sthl 13th Jan / 16:00 6f Hcap       Final Salute      Back        13-Jan-11
15:51           5.7     7.00         5.7     13-Jan-11 15:51    
    GB / Sthl 13th Jan / 16:00 6f Hcap     Gold Story     Back         13-Jan-11
15:50           3.5     18.00         3.6     13-Jan-11 15:50    
    GB / Sthl 13th Jan / 16:00 6f Hcap     Ponting     Back         13-Jan-11
15:50           9.6     3.00         9.8     13-Jan-11 15:50    
    GB / Sthl 13th Jan / 16:00 6f Hcap     Errigal Lad     Back         13-Jan-11
15:50           28     15.00         32     13-Jan-11 15:50    
    GB / Sthl 13th Jan / 16:00 To Be Placed     Errigal Lad     Back         13-Jan-11
15:50           4.4     18.00         5.27     13-Jan-11 15:50
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:54 PM GMT
4TH AGAIN....AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
zipper
Report zipper • January 13, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
dfc,  Jimmy 69 joined  01,   zipper joined 02 ..thats  19  years experience   between us ....Jimmy said  is there any point in this thread   and i have to agree , Kelly Bin It.  Ive meet  plenty  of pro  punters  over the last 50 years ... never  meet a Kelly .
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
4.10 NO CALCULATOR USED ...

     GB / Here 13th Jan / 16:10 To Be Placed       Monsieur      Back            13-Jan-11
15:57           2.22     72.00         2.42     13-Jan-11 15:57    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 16:10 To Be Placed     Arthurian     Back          13-Jan-11
15:56           5.2     36.00         5.3     13-Jan-11 15:57    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 16:10 To Be Placed     Sheezatreasure     Back         13-Jan-11
15:56           12.5     35.98         12.83     13-Jan-11 15:56    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 16:10 2m1f Hcap Hrd     Monsieur     Back         13-Jan-11
15:56           12     6.00         12.5     13-Jan-11 15:56    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 16:10 2m1f Hcap Hrd     Arthurian     Back         13-Jan-11
15:55           30     12.00         32     13-Jan-11 15:55    
    GB / Here 13th Jan / 16:10 2m1f Hcap Hrd     Sheezatreasure     Back         13-Jan-11
15:55           120     6.00         123.23     13-Jan-11 15:55
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 13, 2011 4:10 PM GMT
Stopping after above race ...as chores to do before hospital visit.......KEMPTON been an expensive meeting for me before ....so already lost enough today!

Probably a combination of me being a bit "jet-lagged" after a few nights with 2/3 hours slepp recently....and the GOING at HEREFORD , where I selected the WRONG TYPE of horse for going ( this is where if the brain is not working properly ...it can be very very expensive for me with the odds I normally bet on !)

Now into LOSS position on thread ...so need to get confidence back after a day like this ....IF I can get a good night's sleep , then hopefully I can get back on track tomorrow.
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 12:10 PM GMT
THURSDAY RESULTS


Horse Racing: -£733.13 LOSS

Horse Racing     Showing 1 - 20 of 26 markets
Market     Start time     Settled date     Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 16:10     13-Jan-11 16:18     28.76
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : 2m1f Hcap Hrd     13-Jan-11 16:10     13-Jan-11 16:17     -24.00
Horse Racing / Sthl 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 16:00     13-Jan-11 16:05     73.99
Horse Racing / Sthl 13th Jan : 6f Hcap     13-Jan-11 16:00     13-Jan-11 16:04     -43.00
Horse Racing / Catt 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 15:50     13-Jan-11 15:59     -45.00
Horse Racing / Catt 13th Jan : 2m NHF     13-Jan-11 15:50     13-Jan-11 15:57     -36.00
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 15:40     13-Jan-11 15:47     -66.00
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : 2m Hcap Chs     13-Jan-11 15:40     13-Jan-11 15:46     -42.00
Horse Racing / Sthl 13th Jan : 7f Hcap     13-Jan-11 15:30     13-Jan-11 15:33     -4.00
Horse Racing / Sthl (F/C) 13th Jan : Forecast     13-Jan-11 15:30     13-Jan-11 15:33     -6.00
Horse Racing / Catt 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 15:20     13-Jan-11 15:32     -72.74
Horse Racing / Catt 13th Jan : 2m Hcap Chs     13-Jan-11 15:20     13-Jan-11 15:31     0.96
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 15:10     13-Jan-11 15:24     -9.12
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : 3m2f Hcap Hrd     13-Jan-11 15:10     13-Jan-11 15:21     -18.00
Horse Racing / Catt 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 14:50     13-Jan-11 15:02     18.22
Horse Racing / Catt 13th Jan : 2m3f Hcap Hrd     13-Jan-11 14:50     13-Jan-11 15:00     -17.00
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 14:40     13-Jan-11 14:48     -185.00
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : 2m6f Hcap Hrd     13-Jan-11 14:40     13-Jan-11 14:48     -47.00
Horse Racing / Catt 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 14:20     13-Jan-11 14:32     -99.00
Horse Racing / Catt 13th Jan : 3m6f Hcap Chs     13-Jan-11 14:20     13-Jan-11 14:32     -24.00
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Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : To Be Placed       13-Jan-11 14:10       13-Jan-11 14:20      -34.00
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : 2m6f Mdn Hrd     13-Jan-11 14:10     13-Jan-11 14:20     -11.00
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 13:40     13-Jan-11 13:50     -0.40
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : 3m1f Hcap Chs     13-Jan-11 13:40     13-Jan-11 13:50     -6.80
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : To Be Placed     13-Jan-11 13:10     13-Jan-11 13:18     -47.00
Horse Racing / Here 13th Jan : 2m1f Nov Hrd     13-Jan-11 13:10     13-Jan-11 13:17     -18.00
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Yesterday was "one of those days" where on PLACE bets they came in 4th....though I did "struggle" with HEREFORD races.....Kept selecting wrong type of horse for conditions. Brain was "not in gear" .....possibly through lack of sleep recently...or just "one of those days" where brain does not operate well.

So a big LOSS yesterday wipes out profit on thread.....However, it is important to remember that I should also have days where I will get it "right" OFTEN , and the returns can also be as high as LOSS yesterday. However, I NEED to be better at assessing chances of winning/placing.......as IF I get it "wrong2 too often ...big LOSSES can be incurred like yesterday.

Gl with bets today.
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 12:11 PM GMT
12.30 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 12:17 PM GMT
12.40

        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
12:40    KARINGA DREAM     10    3049        5%    9.55    12.50%    8    2.27%    69.09    15W-54.09PL
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 12:18 PM GMT
12.40 OTHER BETS

GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 12:40 2m5f Hcap Hrd       Rawaaj      Back             14-Jan-11
12:17           5.2     5.00         5.3     14-Jan-11 12:17    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 12:40 2m5f Hcap Hrd     Dancing Daffodil     Back          14-Jan-11
12:17           4.2     6.00         4.3     14-Jan-11 12:17    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 12:40 2m5f Hcap Hrd     Boosha     Back          14-Jan-11
12:16           11     3.00         11     14-Jan-11 12:16    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 12:40 To Be Placed     Boosha     Back          14-Jan-11
12:16           3.25     24.00         3.27     14-Jan-11 12:16
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 12:41 PM GMT
12.50 HAVE RELENTED AND LAYED FAV NOT TO PLACE ...ODDS NOT TOO DAMAGING IF DOES....

        KELLY CALCULATOR FOR PLACE MARKET                    WIN/        STAKE       
        WIN        PLACE    COMMISSION        PLACING    IMPLIED    % OF       
RACE        ODDS        ODDS    RATE    ACTUAL    PROBABILITY            ADVISED    STAKE
TIME    HORSE    AVAILABLE    Betting bank    AVAILABLE    USED    ODDS        ODDS    BANK    STAKE    BET
12:50    DARKAN ROAD        3049    13.5    5%    12.875    10%    10    2.42%    73.82    2W-45PL


NEVER GOT FULLY MATCHED AT ODDS I WANTED ...SO BALANCE WAS BET AT LOWER ODDS....


OTHER BETS


GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 2m Mdn Hrd       Dr Flynn      Back             14-Jan-11
12:31           20     3.00         21     14-Jan-11 12:31    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 2m Mdn Hrd     Aikman     Lay         14-Jan-11
12:31           3.6     24.00         3.58     14-Jan-11 12:31    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 2m Mdn Hrd     King Fingal     Back         14-Jan-11
12:31           4.6     4.00         4.7     14-Jan-11 12:31    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 2m Mdn Hrd     The Galloping Shoe     Back          14-Jan-11
12:31           16     3.00         16.5     14-Jan-11 12:31    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 2m Mdn Hrd     Sobrando Lodge     Back         14-Jan-11
12:30           46     2.00         50     14-Jan-11 12:30    
       
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 To Be Placed     Dr Flynn     Back         14-Jan-11
12:27           5.2     12.00         5.25     14-Jan-11 12:27    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 To Be Placed     Sobrando Lodge     Back         14-Jan-11
12:27           10.5     6.00         11     14-Jan-11 12:27

GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 To Be Placed       Aikman      Lay            14-Jan-11
12:26           1.62     42.00         1.61     14-Jan-11 12:26    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 12:50 To Be Placed     The Galloping Shoe     Back         14-Jan-11
12:24           4.2     18.00         4.31     14-Jan-11 12:24
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 12:50 PM GMT
1.00 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 12:54 PM GMT
1.10 NOT USING CALCULATOR ON THIS RACE

Forecast Betting / Hunt (F/C) 14th Jan / 13:10 Forecast       5 - 1      Back       14-Jan-11
12:52           95     3.00         95     14-Jan-11 12:52    
    Forecast Betting / Hunt (F/C) 14th Jan / 13:10 Forecast     2 - 5     Back          14-Jan-11
12:52           20     4.00         22.99     14-Jan-11 12:52    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 13:10 2m4f Hcap Chs     Overlaw     Back         14-Jan-11
12:51           2.6     28.00         2.64     14-Jan-11 12:51
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 12:57 PM GMT
1.20 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 1:02 PM GMT
1.30 ONLY 2 PLACES ...SO NOT USING CALCULATOR

GB / Ling 14th Jan / 13:30 1m Hcap       Sasheen      Back        14-Jan-11
13:01           9.4     6.00         9.6     14-Jan-11 13:01    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 13:30 1m Hcap     Miss Bootylishes     Back         14-Jan-11
12:59           18     2.00         18.05     14-Jan-11 12:59    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 13:30 1m Hcap     Batya     Back         14-Jan-11
12:59           15.5     6.00         16.14     14-Jan-11 12:59
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 1:22 PM GMT
1.40 .....NO CALCULATOR USED ....AND LAYING AGAIN ...AS HARD TO SEE WHAT HAS STRONG CHANCE TO WIN ....AND SUSPECT FAV WON'T.....

     GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 13:40 2m Nov Hrd       Spirit Son      Lay            14-Jan-11
13:20           1.73     42.00         1.71     14-Jan-11 13:20    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 13:40 To Be Placed     Upper Deck     Back          14-Jan-11
13:19           32     3.00         34     14-Jan-11 13:19    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 13:40 To Be Placed     Bumblebee     Back         14-Jan-11
13:19           8.4     6.00         8.65     14-Jan-11 13:19    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 13:40 To Be Placed     Graylyn Amber     Back         14-Jan-11
13:18           44     4.00         46.9     14-Jan-11 13:18    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 13:40 To Be Placed     Original Prankster     Back         14-Jan-11
13:18           10.5     5.60         10.55     14-Jan-11 13:18    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 13:40 To Be Placed     Palace Jester     Lay         14-Jan-11
13:18           1.23     8.00         1.21     14-Jan-11 13:18    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 13:40 To Be Placed     Spirit Son     Lay         14-Jan-11
13:18           1.18     42.00         1.15     14-Jan-11 13:18
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 1:34 PM GMT
1.50 NO CALCULATOR USED AGAIN!

     GB / Muss 14th Jan / 13:50 To Be Placed       Nelliedonethat      Back             14-Jan-11
13:33           2.06     60.00         2.08     14-Jan-11 13:33
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 1:36 PM GMT
2.00 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 1:39 PM GMT
2.10 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
2.20 PASS
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 1:52 PM GMT
2.30 NO CALCULATOR USED ...STILL KNACKERED TODAY!


GB / Ling 14th Jan / 14:30 1m4f Hcap       Jenny Potts      Back            14-Jan-11
13:49           6.6     6.00         6.8     14-Jan-11 13:49    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 14:30 1m4f Hcap     Relative Strength     Back         14-Jan-11
13:48           9.6     6.00         9.8     14-Jan-11 13:48    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 14:30 To Be Placed     Relative Strength     Back         14-Jan-11
13:48           2.74     60.00         2.75     14-Jan-11 13:48
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 1:59 PM GMT
2.40 NO CALCULATOR USED.

Forecast Betting / Hunt (F/C) 14th Jan / 14:40 Forecast       4 - 2      Back            14-Jan-11
13:57           21     6.00         21.33     14-Jan-11 13:57    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 14:40 2m Hcap Chs     Guns Of Love     Back         14-Jan-11
13:57           2.76     18.00         2.8     14-Jan-11 13:57    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 14:40 2m Hcap Chs     Jumpjack Flint     Back         14-Jan-11
13:57           6.8     6.00         7     14-Jan-11 13:57
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 2:33 PM GMT
RELATIVE STRENGTH ...had NO strength IR ....bullied out race........
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
2.50 NO CALCULATOR USED.

GB / Muss 14th Jan / 14:50 To Be Placed       Wee Sonny      Back             14-Jan-11
14:37           5.1     15.00         5.1     14-Jan-11 14:37    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 14:50 To Be Placed     Kings Chorister     Back         14-Jan-11
14:36           11     8.00         11     14-Jan-11 14:36    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 14:50 2m Sell Hrd     Pokfulham     Back         14-Jan-11
14:36           3.85     12.00         3.9     14-Jan-11 14:36    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 14:50 2m Sell Hrd     Kings Chorister     Back         14-Jan-11
14:36           200     3.00         214.43     14-Jan-11 14:36    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 14:50 2m Sell Hrd     Wee Sonny     Back          14-Jan-11
14:36           40     3.00         49.17     14-Jan-11 14:36
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 2:53 PM GMT
3.00

GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed       Sweet Possession      Back          14-Jan-11
14:51           2.4     15.00         2.42     14-Jan-11 14:51    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed     Sweet Possession     Back     13315939078     14-Jan-11
14:51           2.4     15.00         2.42     14-Jan-11 14:51    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed     Haulit     Back         14-Jan-11
14:50           13     4.00         13.5     14-Jan-11 14:50    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed     Dalrymple     Back         14-Jan-11
14:50           17.5     3.00         17.5     14-Jan-11 14:50    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 1m2f Hcap     Dalrymple     Back      14-Jan-11
14:50           2     2.00         120     14-Jan-11 14:50    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 1m2f Hcap     Haulit     Back          14-Jan-11
14:50           2     2.00         160     14-Jan-11 14:50    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 1m2f Hcap     Tous Les Deux     Back          14-Jan-11
14:50           34     2.00         36     14-Jan-11 14:50    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 1m2f Hcap     Inquisitress     Back         14-Jan-11
14:50           42     6.00         46     14-Jan-11 14:50    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 1m2f Hcap     Empress Leizu     Back         14-Jan-11
14:50           6.6     3.00         6.8     14-Jan-11 14:50    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 1m2f Hcap     Sweet Possession     Back          14-Jan-11
14:50           9.4     6.00         9.6     14-Jan-11 14:50    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed     Sweet Possession     Back         14-Jan-11
14:49           2.56     15.00         2.64     14-Jan-11 14:49    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 To Be Placed     Inquisitress     Back         14-Jan-11
14:49           5.3     18.00         5.41     14-Jan-11 14:49    
    GB / Ling 14th Jan / 15:00 1m2f Hcap     Pascalina     Back         14-Jan-11
14:47           26     6.00         29     14-Jan-11 14:47
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 3:01 PM GMT
3.10  AGAIN...NO CALCULATOR USED.


GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 15:10 To Be Placed       Sallys Idea      Back           14-Jan-11
15:00           1.6     120.00         1.61     14-Jan-11 15:00    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 15:10 2m Hcap Hrd     Doyenne Dream     Back         14-Jan-11
14:56           7.8     6.00         8     14-Jan-11 14:56    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 15:10 2m Hcap Hrd     Roxane Bruere     Back         14-Jan-11
14:56           11.5     6.00         12     14-Jan-11 14:56    
    GB / Hunt 14th Jan / 15:10 2m Hcap Hrd     Sallys Idea     Back         14-Jan-11
14:55           5.1     18.00         5.2     14-Jan-11 14:55
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 3:12 PM GMT
3.20

     GB / Muss 14th Jan / 15:20 3m Hcap Chs       Bally Wall      Back            14-Jan-11
15:11           5.7     6.00         5.9     14-Jan-11 15:11    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 15:20 3m Hcap Chs     New Shuil     Back         14-Jan-11
15:10           7.6     4.00         7.8     14-Jan-11 15:10    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 15:20 3m Hcap Chs     Lockstown     Back          14-Jan-11
15:10           6.2     4.00         6.4     14-Jan-11 15:10    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 15:20 3m Hcap Chs     Soprano     Back         14-Jan-11
15:10           55     3.00         60     14-Jan-11 15:10    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 15:20 To Be Placed     Soprano     Back         14-Jan-11
15:10           8.4     6.00         9.8     14-Jan-11 15:10    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 15:20 To Be Placed     Ballabrook     Back         14-Jan-11
15:09           1.86     36.00         1.91     14-Jan-11 15:09    
    GB / Muss 14th Jan / 15:20 3m Hcap Chs     Ballabrook     Back         14-Jan-11
15:08           5.4     15.00         5.5     14-Jan-11 15:08
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
The £120 PLACE bet on that 3.10 race ...was just a bad bet..............I'm well out of form.

the winner I had ....and in such a race the WIN market is what I should have stuck to.

PLACE bets have been bad bets generally by me the last 2 days.....
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 4:01 PM GMT
4.10

GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:10 To Be Placed       Rightcar Dominic      Back             14-Jan-11
15:59           6     6.00         6.5     14-Jan-11 15:59    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:10 6f Hcap     Suhayl Star     Back         14-Jan-11
15:58           11     3.00         11.5     14-Jan-11 15:58    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:10 6f Hcap     What Katie Did     Back     14-Jan-11
15:58           28     6.00         29     14-Jan-11 15:58    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:10 To Be Placed     What Katie Did     Back         14-Jan-11
15:58           5.7     6.00         6.4     14-Jan-11 15:58    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:10 To Be Placed     Boxer Shorts     Back     14-Jan-11
15:57           20     6.00         26     14-Jan-11 15:57    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:10 6f Hcap     Kheley     Back         14-Jan-11
15:57           3.65     12.00         3.75     14-Jan-11 15:57    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:10 6f Hcap     Boxer Shorts     Back         14-Jan-11
15:57           120     4.00         136.32     14-Jan-11 15:57
DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 4:09 PM GMT
4.40

GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 6f Hcap       Lily Wood      Back           14-Jan-11
16:05           7     6.00         7.4     14-Jan-11 16:05    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 6f Hcap     Itsthursdayalready     Back         14-Jan-11
16:05           3.4     14.00         3.5     14-Jan-11 16:05    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 6f Hcap     Rightcar     Back     14-Jan-11
16:05           80     3.00         113     14-Jan-11 16:05    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 6f Hcap     Gilderoy     Back         14-Jan-11
16:05           23     3.00         24     14-Jan-11 16:05    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 6f Hcap     Only A Game     Back         14-Jan-11
16:05           21     4.00         22     14-Jan-11 16:05    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 6f Hcap     Brazilian Brush     Back          14-Jan-11
16:04           27     3.00         28     14-Jan-11 16:04    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 6f Hcap     Grand Palace     Back         14-Jan-11
16:04           46     3.00         50     14-Jan-11 16:04    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 To Be Placed     Only A Game     Back     14-Jan-11
16:04           5.3     12.00         5.36     14-Jan-11 16:04    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 To Be Placed     Brazilian Brush     Back          14-Jan-11
16:04           6.6     6.00         7.02     14-Jan-11 16:04    
    GB / Wolv 14th Jan / 16:40 To Be Placed     Lily Wood     Back         14-Jan-11
16:04           2.3     66.00         2.31     14-Jan-11 16:04    
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DFCIRONMAN
Report DFCIRONMAN • January 14, 2011 4:38 PM GMT
Selections and bets really POOR/ "BAD" again today .......So stopping after above race.....

Cheers the noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Lusitano71
Report Lusitano71 • January 14, 2011 4:55 PM GMT
DFC i think the problem isnt your picks per se, your system relies in going against the favourites and today it was a favourites day, as you tend to pick the outsiders they just haven´t been coming in

the 4th placed horses havent helped you either
Hbkisonhisway
Report Hbkisonhisway • January 14, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
This thread isnt going to well tbh is it DFC hate seeing you like this blowing money, my advice stop this kelly sh1t go back to how you used to do it on your other thread laying and backing in races and stop putting £100+ on horses chasing
lee h2
Report lee h2 • January 15, 2011 2:33 PM GMT
Original Post

USE KELLY

BACK ONLY

ONE SELECTION PER RACE


For gods sake man....stick to your word for once!
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