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Utd game Away.
How many times have Man utd scored 4 or more away this season. The answer is 0%. The key here is that unqoted in the game against Birmingham was 8.4 to lay at ko.
How many shots on Goal do Man Utd Average per game?
Answer 8.
What % of the shots on goal (SOT) do they convert away?
Answer 0.25 so the average is 2 goals per every 8 shots on target.
How many shots on goal do they need to average to score 4 away?
Answer 16.
How many times have they had more then 10 shots on goal in a game this season.
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0%.
At home their average is higher at just over 0.3. They have managed to score 4 goals or more in only one game. 7-1 v Blackburn.
On average this still means that they would require 13 shots on goal to get an average of 4 goals in a game.
The only game that went against this was against Blackburn where they had 9 SOT and scored 7.
Last night against BIRMINGHAM they had 4 shots on goal and scored the expected ONE goal.
i will be looking at tonights game later.
It is possible to trade games In running with the shot expectation and SOT expectation and actual shots and SOT as a game progresses.
Man UTD average 15 shots per game
how many shots did they have last night?
Answer 14.
so in summary they did their average number of shots (nearly) but fell short in their number of average shots on target.
If there is anyone out there that is trading the markets based on SOT and shots on goal then please contact me if you dont mind sharing information.
How many times have Man utd scored 4 or more away this season. The answer is 0%. The key here is that unqoted in the game against Birmingham was 8.4 to lay at ko.
How many shots on Goal do Man Utd Average per game?
Answer 8.
What % of the shots on goal (SOT) do they convert away?
Answer 0.25 so the average is 2 goals per every 8 shots on target.
How many shots on goal do they need to average to score 4 away?
Answer 16.
How many times have they had more then 10 shots on goal in a game this season.
Answer
0%.
At home their average is higher at just over 0.3. They have managed to score 4 goals or more in only one game. 7-1 v Blackburn.
On average this still means that they would require 13 shots on goal to get an average of 4 goals in a game.
The only game that went against this was against Blackburn where they had 9 SOT and scored 7.
Last night against BIRMINGHAM they had 4 shots on goal and scored the expected ONE goal.
i will be looking at tonights game later.
It is possible to trade games In running with the shot expectation and SOT expectation and actual shots and SOT as a game progresses.
Man UTD average 15 shots per game
how many shots did they have last night?
Answer 14.
so in summary they did their average number of shots (nearly) but fell short in their number of average shots on target.
If there is anyone out there that is trading the markets based on SOT and shots on goal then please contact me if you dont mind sharing information.
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If you look at Man utd goal to shot ratio it is 0.125 away so they need to average 32 shots to score 4 goals.
How many times have Man Utd had 32 shots or more in a game? Answer 0% Most shots this season is 22. Against Blackburn where they won 7-1 they only had 17 shots which makes the 7 goals stand out as the ratio was 0.4.(average just under 0.2 at home) |
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You can apply this to Chelsea away as well as they have a similar goal to shot ratio away.
They have only scored 4 or more goals away once. 6-0 at wigan with 11 shots and goal expectation should have been 1.35 (0.125*11) but in this game the goal to shot ratio was 0.54. |
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CHELSEA V BOLTON SHOT AND SOT ANALYSIS.
Average shots per game Chelsea-17 Bolton- 14 SOT Average chelsea-9 Bolton -8 GOAL TO SHOT RATIO AVERAGE CHELSEA -0.15 HOME BOLTON -0.15 AWAY SHOTS ON TARGET TO SHOT RATIOS AVERAGE CHELSEA -0.53 HOME BOLTON -0.55 AWAY GOAL TO SHOT ON TARGET (SOT) AVERAGE CHELSEA -0.25 HOME BOLTON -0.30 AWAY question how many goals do Chelsea average at Home? Answer=2.25. it so happens that Chelsea have a SOT of 9 and goal to SOT OF 0.25 AT HOME. 0.25*9=2.25  What is the unquoted price in the game tonight? Answer 4.7-4.8 How many shots do Chelsea need to have + SOT to stand a chance of 4 or more goals. Answer is 27 shots on goal and 16 shots on target. they beat Blackpool 4-0 and had 28 shots on goal but only 8 shots on target moving the SOT RATIO up to 0.5. They beat Wba 6-0 and had 19 shots on goal and 12 on target making the SOT 0.5... Summary I am not saying lay the Unquoted but there is no value backing it at 4.7. Sadly i have no skills in the bot area but i imagine for the game tonight you could set up a bot which trades based around the shots or lack of shots as the game progresses. |
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Is this just league matches because West Ham beat them 4-0 in the league cup. Not sure what unq odds were but if this is all utd away matches then it would have taken a hit there.
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just league games.
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Average shots per game Chelsea-17
Bolton- 14 * should be 13 SOT Average chelsea-9 Bolton -8* should be 7 |
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This is bolton away
13(5)- 3 goals 9(4) - 1 14(5)-1 11(5) 1 11(2) 1 12(3) 1 17(5) 3 12(1) - 13(3) - Bolton average 3.66 SOT away and their goal to SOT is an impressive 0.3 so 0.3*3.66=1.10 goals per game. They infact average 1.22 goals away so not far off. |
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Liverpool V Wolves.
Shot AVERAGE lIVERPOOL 12 WOLVES 10 SOT AVERAGE LIVERPOOL 7 WOLVES 6 GOAL TO SHOT RATIO AVERAGE LIVERPOOL 0.13 HOME WOLVES 0.11 AWAY GOAL TO SOT AVERAGE LIVERPOOL 0.25 HOME WOLVES 0.22 AWAY lIVERPOOL 0.25*7= 1.75. Liverpool average at home is 1.87. Wolves 0.22*6=1.32. Wolves average away is 0.62 Unquoted is 5.5-5.6 how many shots/Sot should Liverpool have to score 4+ goals? Answer is 31 shots and 16 SOT. They have scored 4+ at home 0 times this season. When they beat West ham 3-0 they did 23(9) and villa 3-0 13(6) Wolves have not conceded 4 goals + away this season. Spurs 3 did 26(8) |
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where do you get the shots stats from mate?
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Wigan v Arsenal
Average shots Arsenal 17 Wigan 13 SOT arsenal 10 wigan 7 Goal to shot ratio Arsenal 0.14 AWAY wigan 0.05 THE WORST AT HOME IN THE LEAGUE GOAL TO SOT AVERAGE ARSENAL 0.22 AWAY WIGAN 0.11 THE WORST AT HOME IN THE LEAGUE Arsenal average goals scored away is 1.66. 0.22*10=2.2. Scored 4+ goals away once this season. MANAGED 20(7) at Villa so lucky to get 4 in that game. Wigan have leaked 4+ goals in two games. Chelsea did 11(8) and the unpredictable Blackpool did 10(6) Wigan average goals conceded at home is 1.88. Wigan average goals scored 0.88 at home. In this game arsenal to keep a clean sheet looks interesting. 2.24 On paper Wigan need 20(10) just to score. |
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shot stats during the game , i am using ESPN . Is there anything better?
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not sure mate, im a tennis man and only been dabbling in football for last 2 months or so. i only use soccerstats usually.
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are you getting the stats by just clicking into each teams matches or are the shot stats collated on one bit that i just cant seem to find?
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need to click on each team but i have cheated a bit and used a post on the soccerbynumbers website that was correct to end Nov 2010.
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another point of interest in the Chlesea game is the over 2.5 goal market.
Chelsea at home Matches under 2.5 goals 62% Bolton away Matches under 2.5 goals 67% But we have overs at 1.69 so that cannot be value. |
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jonnyg Date Joined: 04 Jul 00
Chelsea at home Matches under 2.5 goals 62% Bolton away Matches under 2.5 goals 67% But we have overs at 1.69 so that cannot be value Why ? What I mean Why should we ASSUME this seasons unders / overs is the ONLY basis to price up a match?[:)] |
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agree with Scotbet , sample is too small.
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i appreciate what you are saying.
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Be careful Jonny.
Last season Man Utd scored 4+ goals away from home 4 times (21% of their away games) In game 1 they had 13 shots In game 2 they had 14 shots In game 3 they had 16 shots In game 4 they had 20 shots |
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thanks marky.
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chelsea 15 mins showing 0 shots on target on espn site
Arsenal 0 shots on goal as well. |
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Not to mention the fact that if you're expecting 2 Man Utd goals, then 8.4 looks biggish (and you've got the 4+ Birmingham goals as a freeroll)
The truth of course is that this is WAY too small a sample. |
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appreciate what you are saying Bayes.
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20 mins gone Chelsea showing 0 shots on goal
arsenal none as well i dont have pictures so espn stats will have to do. |
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half way through first half
CHELSEA 2(0) bOLTON 1(0) |
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wIGAN 3(2) Arsenal 5(1)
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think the over backers in the Chelsea game will be getting worried now.
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i am still in shock that Wigan scored.
if they score again i will run naked down my road. |
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arsenal up to 7(3).
i have a suspicion they will get 3 or 4. |
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Chelsea 0-0 Bolton Ht
stats showing 3(0) for both teams. Not one shot on goal.  |
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wigan 3(2) lucky to score 1 with that. Arsenal 9(4) so on schedule for their average of 17(9) |
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ht Liverpool 7(2) 0 wolves 3(0) 0
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i am still in shock that Wigan scored.
if they score again i will run naked down my road. It is freezing  |
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Ft Chelsea 15(6) 1 GOAL
Bolton 10(3) 0 Goal chelsea Average 17(9) and Bolton 13(7). 15(6) gives 1.5 goals on average. 10(3) gives Bolton just under 1 goal on average. |
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Wigan 8(5) 2 goals. Average for 8(5) is 0.6 goals.
Arsenal 17(6) 2 goals. Average for 17(6) is 1.5 goals. |
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Ft Liverpool underpeform on the SOT but manage their average number of shots per game.
liverpool 13(3) 0 goal . on average this would have given 0.75 of a goal so did not do enough to score. Enough shots but not accurate enough. Wolves 8(2) 1 goal . on average this would give 0.5 of a goal. |
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When are you running naked down your road then mate?
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jonnyg 29 Dec 10 13:02
If you look at Man utd goal to shot ratio it is 0.125 away so they need to average 32 shots to score 4 goals. I would suspect the goal to shot ratio will, on average, be higher in high scoring games. You don't seem to have taken this into account? |
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Very interesting thread though. Good work jonnyg
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