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is discipline an edge?
is discipline an edge?
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can i have your autograph?
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i said at least, will be much more than that...why are you distracting from the main challenge? cant get your boyfriend sammy to agree? oh dear...lol
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man city are free money tonight, lay that if u want
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No Lmansini, I'm accusing you of spouting bullcrap to put it bluntly. Nothing personal though, so don't take it the wrong way.
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you dont count..im sorry but thats how it is. You leapt to the defence of your boyfriend money tree, now you get him to do somegthing for you...hehe
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trevh can i get some clarifaction before i waste time going through old threads...your saying i didnt lay man city? or i didnt lay them based purely on money tree + samual morse' advice ?
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is the jury still out?
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LMansini, I was merely pointing out your tendencies to exagerate (listed below) to put it politely, which make you appear a fool. I couldn't care less whether or not you laid Man City. The point of my post was to warn other readers that you may say just about anything, and as such you should perhaps not be taken seriously. As ever, nothing personal :)
I have never, in my life, EVER, bet more than 10 quid (about 0.000001 %) of my bank on soccer. I have a 2k bank and I was going to lose $70 on a soccer game that was 1-0. No big deal right... But I was pissed off, I couldnt handle losing that money, and I was a little drunk. So I put $1000 on at $1.20 tat no more goals would be scored. BUT i KNOW that moneytree and samualmorse are both complete spanners. So i layed man city with my entire bank. And I made over 2k pounds on this match. |
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trevh,re your post on Dec1 regards discipline, I am not a
trader of any kind, but a straight forward punter. IMO if you have a selection method and a staking framework, then discipline doesn't enter into it for me. For example, taking yesterdays match, I rate Sunderland a 1.8 chance, and am a backer at 2.0, a layer at 1.66. If 2.0 my stake is 100 points win, if 1.66 120 lay, either bet returns 200. If neither price is reached, pre kickoff, then no bet. Built in discipline. I apply the same rules for about 6 or 7 markets sometimes, no bet, sometimes 1, sometimes 2 etc. It's surprisinghow often I get an unexpected match very late in the secondary markets, clean sheet, corners odds etc. If nothing matches then no bet. No matter what happens win or lose, I stick to that. In the in running markets I have a similar routine at half time, again discipline is automatic. GL. |
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=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=.=| watch and learn people. clear demonstation of disciplined mind at work
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Speaking personally, in greyhound racing discipline is an edge.I am a stats man through and through (apologies). Having set the bots I used to come home from work, see there was a few races left and put silly "fancy" bets on. Sometimes they worked, most times they didnt. I invariably did a bit of harm to my profit level.
Then I worked part-time and stayed in front of the screen most days.The same process took place, the bots made their returns but I lessened it by losses on my "fancies" usually based on track bias or nothing coming from behind , of which "the bot" had no knowledge (LOL). I have now learnt after many years to set a daily target for profit and a maximum daily loss, once I hit either "target" I am out for the day. Unfortunately because I am bored stiff I often come back in and pay the price, but its not anywhere near as damaging as before. So to me discipine is definitely an edge. |
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zola, I sense some sarcasm. Am I correct ?
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Stopping once you've made such and such profit...I've never understood this fable.
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neither have i rocket, you must also remember to stop once you've made such and such LOSS !
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not at all
ken. I was merely poi nting out some peopl e have nat ural disci pline and some don't . you clea rly are on e of the l ucky ones. |
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Why ?
Each bet, and therefore each win or loss, is a seperate event. It makes no difference if I wait 8 hours between losses or 8 minutes. Likewise with wins. |
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You can't do your financial accounts based upon each bet, they have to be time based and for comparison, historical and statistical purposes days/weeks/months/years are useful. You could argue that on a losing day in downtime your system might recover but on average that's not been my experience and frankly most earning is about a work/leisure trade off, staying at it all day can be costly in the long term.
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By: This user is online. irishone
Date Joined: 22 Sep 06 Add contact | Send message When: 08 Dec 10 21:30 I have now learnt after many years to set a daily target for profit and a maximum daily loss, once I hit either "target" I am out for the day ^ That's what I was talking about. |
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zola, thanks for that. I had the 'sarcasm' at around 2.5 with
'no sarcasm' at 1.66 so another odds on chances goes in ! |
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 I think Ken types on one of these. About 3 inches wide: [ This image is no longer available. ] |
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What the hell ?
I meant to link to this: [ This image is no longer available. ] |
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Erm... this ??
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Apple_iie.jpg |
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rocket, you taking the p!ss ?
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Life is discipline the man who loses his job,or retires but still gets up at 6/7 in the morning,shaves,dresses neatly etc has discipline,he can still achieve,the guy that takes the other option gets up at 8/9 doesn't shave doesn't care how he dresses etc has no discipline which of these will achieve more?
DISCIPLINE is the key to betting,it is the KEY TO LIFE,and the lack of it is the root of societys problems. |
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Having an edge is all that matters ... discipline means diddlie squat if you dont have one. Can imagine those with an edge will encourage the discipline tripe on here to lead those without an edge into not giving up and lobbing more cash their way.
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Once an edge has been found DISCIPLINE IS OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE .
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You need to stick to your edge is what you are calling discipline in that instance ... I would just call it sticking to your edge.
You can say you need discipline to wipe your @rse with paper instead of your hand but I would just say you need to stick to wiping your @rse with paper. There is discipline in everything you do, funny how it only comes up on here so often as a lifeline to those without an edge to give hope you can win with discipline .. ffs hilarious. |
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What happens if I fall off the edge?
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morris - many people believe for eg if they just backed diamond harry in the hennessy and cue card at aintree ( cos they knew they were certs ) and didnt back all the other losers ( cert winners )they'd be quids in .
VALUE VALUE VALUE is the only way . |
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Value, experience, inside information, methodology can all be classed as an edge if they show a consistent profit. Discipline is everywhere in life, when you read it on here it is horsesh1t.
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eric is very shrewd imo. if you know what the fav has been eating it might highlight crucial information the rest of the market doesn't have. quite literally insider info.
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In reply to the original question. Without a shadow of a doubt YES.
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many years ago i would deposit 200, 250,300 etc etc and have 20, 30, 40 wins 20 ew etc etc -- before the bank dwindled to £0.00.
Now i know well and truly this is not the way . |
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zealot, is that an example of discipline ?
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It would have been the way if you'd had an edge. Discipline my@rse.
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Discipline is not an edge
its a prerequisite (spelt that wrong) so are money money management , patience etc An edge is what you do in the game an how you do it |
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ken and morris .
for me yes - i never had a clue about staking until now -- i used to back 20 , 30 ,40 no matter what price it was which is rather dumb . money management is just as im portant . |
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Discipline is not an edge
its a prerequisite (spelt that wrong) so are money money management , patience etc An edge is what you do in the game an how you do it Lots of differing opinions on this thread. Even a roulette owner who has no discipline could go bust despite having a cast iron 2.7% house edge. To my mind, if you take away discipline from what ever edge you practice, you will ultimately lose, therefore discipline should be acknowledged as an edge in its own right. |
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 trev didnt u say the exact opposite a few pages back? not that i take as much notice of my 'internet personalities' as you do so maybe not.. |
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if the internet were 'x factor' trev would be cheryl cole.....he's the lord of the net; )
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