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Anyone following their football lays ?
I have a funny feeling this is Ross from the old scammers Frontline Lays [horse system]
Have checked them out ..Newcastle area!
I have a funny feeling this is Ross from the old scammers Frontline Lays [horse system]
Have checked them out ..Newcastle area!
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LOL it is him .... just looked at his old frontline lay skin
Same as this new Champion Lay site ..
Cant keep a good crook down !
Same as this new Champion Lay site ..
Cant keep a good crook down !
Wonder if his records are false this time ..
Police are on their way to Newcastle as we speak
Police are on their way to Newcastle as we speak
Scam! Complete with a totally made up screenshot of his Betfair P/L!
According to his statement:
1) He had 100% strike rate that month
2) He pays 5% commission even though he is laying 300 pounds per horse
3) Misspellings of Ascott and Srat
4) Dates and times of the races do not match up!
5) He has turf meetings on during the night
etc etc
His system takes a couple of hours to use each day as well. Mind numbingly boring scam.
At the time of this writing, he has taken his site offline. How convenient!
He is at it again .............. BEWARE
According to his statement:
1) He had 100% strike rate that month
2) He pays 5% commission even though he is laying 300 pounds per horse
3) Misspellings of Ascott and Srat
4) Dates and times of the races do not match up!
5) He has turf meetings on during the night
etc etc
His system takes a couple of hours to use each day as well. Mind numbingly boring scam.
At the time of this writing, he has taken his site offline. How convenient!
He is at it again .............. BEWARE
No mate but I have been watching a new laying [football site ]
its the same guy
its the same guy
Hi guys,
I am not personally familair with Frontline Lays but this has come up before. From what I have learned what I can tell you is that the only connection between Champion Lays and Frontline Lays is that we both used the same company to design our website and promote our launch.
As far as the selections go, there is obviously no connection whatsoever as Frontline Lays was a racing system while Champion Lays is a highly selective football laying service with a detailed match analysis for each bet. Our posted results are 100% accurate and we are currently being reviewed on 3 independent review sites, while a fourth is scheduled to begin a review within the next week.
We are off to an excellent start to our 75-day free trial, with 14 winning lays from 17 bets and more than 7 points level stakes profit, so I'd encourage you to join the trial, which runs until the end of the World Cup, and check out the service for yourself.
There's no doubt there are a lot of scammers out there, but because of that sometimes people look to find fault when none actually exists. In any event, if you join our trial you will see how we handle ourselves and the results we achieve that we are as straight-up a service as you will find. There are no claims of instant riches here or any crazy staking plans, just well researched football lays to be placed at level stakes that will grind out a healthy profit month after month, year after year.
Andrew
(Champion Lays)
I am not personally familair with Frontline Lays but this has come up before. From what I have learned what I can tell you is that the only connection between Champion Lays and Frontline Lays is that we both used the same company to design our website and promote our launch.
As far as the selections go, there is obviously no connection whatsoever as Frontline Lays was a racing system while Champion Lays is a highly selective football laying service with a detailed match analysis for each bet. Our posted results are 100% accurate and we are currently being reviewed on 3 independent review sites, while a fourth is scheduled to begin a review within the next week.
We are off to an excellent start to our 75-day free trial, with 14 winning lays from 17 bets and more than 7 points level stakes profit, so I'd encourage you to join the trial, which runs until the end of the World Cup, and check out the service for yourself.
There's no doubt there are a lot of scammers out there, but because of that sometimes people look to find fault when none actually exists. In any event, if you join our trial you will see how we handle ourselves and the results we achieve that we are as straight-up a service as you will find. There are no claims of instant riches here or any crazy staking plans, just well researched football lays to be placed at level stakes that will grind out a healthy profit month after month, year after year.
Andrew
(Champion Lays)
Hi Andrew thanks for your reply .
2 points same web designer ! Same area in UK coincidence ??
Newcastle ??
2 points same web designer ! Same area in UK coincidence ??
Newcastle ??
"Andrew" how much will you charge per month once the free trial is over?
Hi guys,
I've never used the betfair forum before and this thread was brought to my attention by one of my subscribers.
Most forums I have used haven't allowed link posting, so I assumed the same here, but I will try to post links below for you.
If they are deleted, I'll let you know that we are being reviewed by online racing review, cash master blog and betting system truths.
Matt Watson from Favourites Phenomenon has also just started a review on his new site, helpmebetandtrade. Matt is quite respected in the industry and I have been aquainted with him for several years, and he would definitely be able to confirm for you that I am not Ross Turner.
Our picks are also being posted pre-match in a forum thread on UK Betting Tips, and that thread has contained a lengthy discussion regarding who we are. I'd be perfectly willing to do that here as well, if you guys would be interested in that.
Anyways, here are the links:
http://helpmebetandtrade.com/
http://www.onlineracingreview.com/?s=Champion+Lays
http://www.cash-master.com/blog/?s=Champion+Lays
http://www.bettingsystemtruths.com/?s=%22champion+lays%22
If any of the links don't work or are removed, simply go to the sites, search Champion Lays and our review should come up.
As far as the Newcastle address goes, I believe that is the mailing address for our publishing company who were hired to build the site, promote our launch etc. You say our site looks very similar to the frontline lays site, which I've never seen, but certainly may be the case if it was built by the same designer.
As far as the price of the service goes, it has yet to be determined and will depend considerably on the level of success of the trial.
Once again, I encourage you to subscribe to our lengthy free trial to see that we are a straight-up, no gimmick, profitable laying service that also provides first-rate customer service.
Andrew
Champion Lays)
I've never used the betfair forum before and this thread was brought to my attention by one of my subscribers.
Most forums I have used haven't allowed link posting, so I assumed the same here, but I will try to post links below for you.
If they are deleted, I'll let you know that we are being reviewed by online racing review, cash master blog and betting system truths.
Matt Watson from Favourites Phenomenon has also just started a review on his new site, helpmebetandtrade. Matt is quite respected in the industry and I have been aquainted with him for several years, and he would definitely be able to confirm for you that I am not Ross Turner.
Our picks are also being posted pre-match in a forum thread on UK Betting Tips, and that thread has contained a lengthy discussion regarding who we are. I'd be perfectly willing to do that here as well, if you guys would be interested in that.
Anyways, here are the links:
http://helpmebetandtrade.com/
http://www.onlineracingreview.com/?s=Champion+Lays
http://www.cash-master.com/blog/?s=Champion+Lays
http://www.bettingsystemtruths.com/?s=%22champion+lays%22
If any of the links don't work or are removed, simply go to the sites, search Champion Lays and our review should come up.
As far as the Newcastle address goes, I believe that is the mailing address for our publishing company who were hired to build the site, promote our launch etc. You say our site looks very similar to the frontline lays site, which I've never seen, but certainly may be the case if it was built by the same designer.
As far as the price of the service goes, it has yet to be determined and will depend considerably on the level of success of the trial.
Once again, I encourage you to subscribe to our lengthy free trial to see that we are a straight-up, no gimmick, profitable laying service that also provides first-rate customer service.
Andrew
Champion Lays)
Ok fair enough I respect your full reply and will look into the info you have sent in this post .
If I have made a mistake I will post a full retraction and say sorry .
Thanks for your time
If I have made a mistake I will post a full retraction and say sorry .
Thanks for your time
pps I am following your trial on paper and you have correctly layed 2 from 2 so far for me .. I will continue to follow
Thank's page-413, that's much appreciated.
Hopefully now we can focus on the service itself, and I welcome any dialogue, positve or negative, regarding the Champions Lays selections.
Andrew
(Champion Lays)
Hopefully now we can focus on the service itself, and I welcome any dialogue, positve or negative, regarding the Champions Lays selections.
Andrew
(Champion Lays)
Poor weekend for this system, 2 winners, 2 high price losers
Yes Jyvas not good glad I am on paper !
I have had a good look at the reviews [sites listed] have to say some of the sites are very new and 1 only has Champion Lays as its only review .
The daddy of independent review sites Money Maker Review or Online gambling exposed do not list this at all .
OG exposed caught Ross [cheat] Turner out rigging his figures .
I have checked these results they seem fine .
You are not Turner because he would be charging for a system that is not fully tested [only 1 yr ]
So I take that back and say soory to Andrew
Is the system any good lets talk in 2 yrs
I have had a good look at the reviews [sites listed] have to say some of the sites are very new and 1 only has Champion Lays as its only review .
The daddy of independent review sites Money Maker Review or Online gambling exposed do not list this at all .
OG exposed caught Ross [cheat] Turner out rigging his figures .
I have checked these results they seem fine .
You are not Turner because he would be charging for a system that is not fully tested [only 1 yr ]
So I take that back and say soory to Andrew
Is the system any good lets talk in 2 yrs
Apology accepted Page, but just to clarify: this is not a system; it is a service.
As for last weekend, yes, it was bad. In fact, it was the worst week in all of 2010. Nevertheless, despite that we still achieved a small profit for May, which I consider to have been quite a bad month. Our bad months will be like this, ranging from a couple of points profit to a couple of points loss, while our good months will generate 10 profit points or more. There will be a lot more good months than bad months, I should add.
The review site that had us as its only review (there are now 2 reviews there) is Matt Watson's site, and I think it says something he thought highly enough of us to give us the honour of being the first.
As far as Moneymaker Review goes, I am a Secret Betting Club member and hope to get them to take a look at us. We are very new though, and a lot of other services that have been around longer than us are hoping for that too, so we will patiently wait our turn in line.
Andrew
(Champion Lays)
As for last weekend, yes, it was bad. In fact, it was the worst week in all of 2010. Nevertheless, despite that we still achieved a small profit for May, which I consider to have been quite a bad month. Our bad months will be like this, ranging from a couple of points profit to a couple of points loss, while our good months will generate 10 profit points or more. There will be a lot more good months than bad months, I should add.
The review site that had us as its only review (there are now 2 reviews there) is Matt Watson's site, and I think it says something he thought highly enough of us to give us the honour of being the first.
As far as Moneymaker Review goes, I am a Secret Betting Club member and hope to get them to take a look at us. We are very new though, and a lot of other services that have been around longer than us are hoping for that too, so we will patiently wait our turn in line.
Andrew
(Champion Lays)
Yes Jyvas, we were 5 minutes away from a perfect week but a late goal left us with a 3-1 record for the week and a small profit.
Andrew
Andrew
I actually think Champion Lays is a good service. I've been cherry picking my choices and the US and Brazil tips are spot on. They've been a bit unlucky in the world cup with all the upsets. For the World Cup i've been following ibetvalue.net which has been first class. 11/12 correct lays
page 413, your right Champion Lays is connected with Ross Turner through a Scott Bolton of psychic racing profits.
They've been a bit unlucky in the world cup with all the upsets
Yes, betting would so much easier without those pesky upsets.
Yes, betting would so much easier without those pesky upsets.
Have noticed he has taken the trial results off his website lol so sh1t!
I'll say it again.... another big loser last night, how anyone would sign and pay for this guys carp is beyond me, lucky it was a free trial!
more e-mails from Ross and films may I add,
I now have proof beyond doubt the whole set up is connected to the old front line lay service.
I have used an agency [private] in the North East to hunt these guys down ... it has been easy .
All info forwarded to the Police thank you and goodnight my work is done .
I now have proof beyond doubt the whole set up is connected to the old front line lay service.
I have used an agency [private] in the North East to hunt these guys down ... it has been easy .
All info forwarded to the Police thank you and goodnight my work is done .
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