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Lori
24 May 10 09:59
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New forum is a shambles, but the new home page is ridiculous.

I'll even go as far as admitting the old home page needed some work, but this is a step backwards, where are the lists of events today and upcoming events and most importantly "Recently visited markets", which is the only reason I used it anyway.

Doesn't appear to be anything of use to me on there at all now.
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Report roger_moore • May 24, 2010 10:01 AM BST
recently view markets is still there, u just need to visit one, then it appears below quick links...
Report Lori • May 24, 2010 10:04 AM BST
Ok that's significantly more useful then cheers.

I assume it remembers after I log out and back in again, otherwise again, no point.

Not sure why they insist on a design that looks like a small child did it using a huge crayon, but at least the one thing I use is actually present.

I'm a big hater of these dumb arrows (BBC destroyed their site the same way) that don't get rid of the titles though. I'm never going to need Horse Racing to be top of the list, I'd like to turn off the gigantic blue band that takes up about 3% of my screen.

I do hope they didn't pay much of our hard spent commission on this.
Report Lori • May 24, 2010 10:05 AM BST
Also, have they killed "My markets" for everyone, or just for me. It takes hours to hunt down all my markets and set them up ffs.
Report gerry399 • May 24, 2010 10:06 AM BST
Disagree Lori - the new sports homepage looks great - big improvement - the new forums feels great as well. Well done Betfair.
Report slartybartfast • May 24, 2010 10:12 AM BST
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We will be performing site maintenance on Monday morning (24th May) between the hours of 8am – 10am (UK BST).  The site will be available throughout although some users may experience some changes to the Sports homepage during this time.

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Report Five By Five • May 24, 2010 10:17 AM BST
Another blow for functionality over 'style'
The old front page wasn't perfect but had a huge amount of information/links available at the touch of a button. Now we have pretty boxes.. why do they insist on making everything b bigger the new 'in play/upcoming in play' list is crazily big especially with the time added.
Approaching 10years on here and i genuinely think (not just saying this) that function wise this site was better 8-9 years ago and thats a shame.
Report Lori • May 24, 2010 10:21 AM BST
i genuinely think (not just saying this) that function wise this site was better 8-9 years ago and thats a shame

I just posted a remarkably similar comment on the Site Feedback forum!!
Report roger_moore • May 24, 2010 10:29 AM BST
i still have "my markets", its at the bottom of the left hand menu??
Report slartybartfast • May 24, 2010 10:29 AM BST
Is my earlier post invisible?
Report Five By Five • May 24, 2010 10:30 AM BST
I'm still stuggling to see ANY advantage to it.
I dont bet horse racing so why have i got to have a huge giant bar across my screen? on the old page horse racing was on it but such a small area i didn't care. You had all the main events from all the big events and a lot of smaller ones as well, those smaller events have now completely vanished from the home page and i'm sure liquidity in those markets will vanish also. A lot of people (myself included) would find random events to have a punt on from it being listed on the homepage.

Stop updating for the sake of updating and cut out the crap which isnt needed, those giant blue bars what a complete waste of space... i mean seriously if someone was paid for that design. ffs.
Report I am the one and only223 • May 24, 2010 10:35 AM BST
Why is the right hand quarter of the screen completely blank?  Has it always been like that?
Report 1.01 Layer • May 24, 2010 10:40 AM BST
I agree 5x5 (and Lori). 

Don't want nags or dogs; my markets don't come up; it does look like a kid did it with a crayon and where's rugby?

To be fair, I probably don't reflect the average user so what do I know.  Just keep collecting the PC, boys... only try and spend it on something useful.
Report roger_moore • May 24, 2010 10:46 AM BST
i like the Live betting bit, shows you the current score in the football and how many minutes gone.
Report Five By Five • May 24, 2010 11:11 AM BST
At least i have just received an email asking to vote on the 'header' graphic.... shame they didn't hold a vote about if we wanted the new homepage.
Report Lori • May 24, 2010 11:13 AM BST
If I'm betting on a football match, the chances are I know the score and how many minutes have gone.
Report Cosmic Horizon • May 24, 2010 11:22 AM BST
I absolutely completely agree with your opening post Lori
Report BLACK • May 24, 2010 11:22 AM BST
getting rid of all the adverts would be a huge improvement
Report Cosmic Horizon • May 24, 2010 11:24 AM BST
And now when I press my markets it seems to think I want to customise my markets!  Indeed I have no idea how to get my markets now.
Report They. • May 24, 2010 11:34 AM BST
roger moore works for Betfair NAP
Report 1.01 Layer • May 24, 2010 11:36 AM BST
License to skim
Report They. • May 24, 2010 11:36 AM BST
gerry399 also works for Betfair
Report viva el presidente! • May 24, 2010 12:21 PM BST
main issue for me is that firefox extras and it's watch list (the main thing I used) broke nearly a week ago, and they've said and done nothing about it since. starting to think they've quietly abandoned it. Sad
Report 1.01 Layer • May 24, 2010 12:25 PM BST
Just found 8 in play county cricket matches, none of which are listed on the main sports page.  Same for an Aussie Rugby league match.

So is liquidity on the quieter markets likely to go up or down?

Do us all a favour bf and list the in play stuff.
Report Five By Five • May 24, 2010 8:39 PM BST
smaller events are fked unless they change things back/amend it. They did the same few years ago and sorted it in the end so is a little hope they sort this one.


Heres an idea for a good homepage, upcoming and in play events for all different sports on one page, instantly see whats in play at that time and no need to click tabs.. oh wait...
Report Five By Five • May 24, 2010 8:40 PM BST
While moaning the forum is like treacle tonight.. I dont really care too much about that as its the site that matters to me.. its just another case of backward steps tho. :(
Report curlywurly • May 24, 2010 9:22 PM BST
90% of punters can't see past football and horseracing, looks like betfair are trying to make it 100%
Report charlatan • May 24, 2010 9:24 PM BST
and there was me dreaming that when they said there would be an in-play menu that it might actually be comprehensive and thus useful.......
Report Schalke 04 • May 24, 2010 9:28 PM BST
why do sites have upgrades anyway? If it's not broke don't fix it, Betfair have constantly upset customers changing designs. I am starting to hate the way Betfair is going compared to when I first joined. Stan james is another one who have upgraded their website and it looks awful ... why do these companies persist on changing things?
Report charlatan • May 24, 2010 10:58 PM BST
an obsession with modernity, a bureaucracy which has to be seen to be doing something, another opportunity to stick more unwanted self-promoting advertising on the front page....
Report Denis Lawless • May 25, 2010 12:24 AM BST
Where is the nice and easy link to today's in-play football?  Takes hours to find it now instead of a single click...  No, that is not progress.  What a jumble!
Report good value losers • May 25, 2010 1:11 PM BST
Lori Joined: 20 Apr 04
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Not sure why they insist on a design that looks like a small child did it using a huge crayon


pmsl Laugh
Report Bundy89 • May 25, 2010 3:36 PM BST
Where is the Football "Todays INPLAY" quick link gone, terrible, who runs this site [>o]
Report dan33 • May 25, 2010 3:46 PM BST
1.01 layer you are absolutely spot on with this:

Just found 8 in play county cricket matches, none of which are listed on the main sports page.  Same for an Aussie Rugby league match.

So is liquidity on the quieter markets likely to go up or down?

Do us all a favour bf and list the in play stuff.


On this new sports page Betfair should list all matches from all sports that are currently in play. In play liquidity is bad enough on less popular sports as it is, without Betfair hiding away those sports and failing to expose possible betting opportunities to its users.

I'm all for progress on the site, but this sports page is a backwards step in many respects.
Report trynabe • May 25, 2010 5:47 PM BST
its shocking ,,why change it totally ,,they should of asked the customer what would of helped and adjusted accordingly not let some twits at a meeting decide what they think we want ,,gobshites
Report Chilly the Dog • May 25, 2010 6:10 PM BST
I wouldnt mind being able to re-order the sport windows (like on the bbc site) but with much less overhead given to title bars, and of course my layout being availble after I log out and back in between computers etc.
Report The Investor • May 25, 2010 11:06 PM BST
My browswer is set to open directly to soccer.betfair.com, so not a problem for me.

Lori, do you use firefox?
If so, you can use an add on called Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper to get rid of stuff you don't want on your screen.

I use it to get rid of the big image banners at the top of markets. Only reason I don't want them there is that they force me to scroll on correct score markets. Without them, the whole market fits on the page. Also use it to get rid of the interactive casino and games advertising nonsense that pops up all over the place.
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