Independent Bookmakers & The Gambling Commission

i'm surprised they still around when u consider they are offering terrible value for customers, for the most part.

They are definitely on the side of the big4, trying to squeeze the Independent out the game with their astronomical costs and mind boggingly stupid legislation.

I found a great Indy in Gloucester the other day. Up to £100 refund on games whuch end 0-0.

Creedbet was the name.

We've had shops for 40 odd years and never once had any trouble with under age gamblers/money laundering/social responsibility/or had posters all over the place begging people who don't need it to seek help/ yet now were paying £1700 to a bunch of thieves who think a round robin is a over fed wild bir, with a red belly

The industry was always self policing, why the ** would you want to have some 16 year old scroat in your shop or some pi ss can who want 5 pence reverse forecast on a race that's already gone.

Its hard at the mo,very hard.

By the way to the Gamb Comm, a four year old nipper aint allowed in, just in case it ends up a prob gambler in later life.

So his grandad leaves his grandson at the door in the pi ssin rain while he does his 10p Yankee.

Common sense needed maine road. If someone comes to my office with a nipper and they are gonna be in and out, then F**k the GM.

Exactly I have a retired copper who brings his young grandson in, he says he will stand up in court and defend me if it ever came to that.

Department of Culture and Media that sets the fees, they are sickening the small operator so as to go underground and thus defeating the whole point of why the Commission was originally set up.

Thats in a nutshell lincoln, wont be long till i'm sat in the local working mens, no tax, no levy, no nothin.

The only expense will be the pen behind me ear.

Absolute nonsense the lot of them.....move the goalposts when trying to pick fault from area to area......bunch of scruffy urchins...and last week called mate continuously by one in a conversation on the phone.

Aren't the Tories getting rid of quangos?

They should start with these.

Telephone bets are the future. Betting shops will only have fobt,s in them. Doin this ummer racing then its just phone bets for me, so any other indys on here fancy setting accounts up with me and vice versa then get in touch. Sure if we use each other to hedge etc we could make it pay without all the overheads.

I am happy to take your hedging bets flem or shift any live biz for u?

Financially, they have killed the small/1 man indie in one fell swoop - and it was definitely pre meditated. The big 3 have been protected and given bigger market share by the GC - no wonder they're not complaining about them.

The local councils that used to charge £25 for 3 years for a premisis licence, suddenly charge £600 a year! - so what do they do 7200% differently now?

I really think that the big 3 are really behind this utterly unneeded quango - cos they can foresee the end game

went to a GC open forum for all license holders recently and to be honest it was a bit of a waste of time they seem hung up on the big 5 betting shop companies and amusement arcades.
as a manager of a one shop indy they dont seem to have an answer to the unfair regulations and fees which heavily favour the bigger firms.

I have a review shortly and have been informed that if I want to appeal any decision it will cost me 9.5k to lodge. Tell me thats fair !!

Out to squash the small guy. Nap.

When they sent out nder 18s surely that was breaking the law?

How did we get into this mess. I mean the Gambling Commission.

The goverment needed some more tax revenues that would not hit the ballot box. Who cares about how much bookies wil pay anyway.

The result lets have some big casinos we can screw em for loads of tax and nobody cares. Thats the goverment advisers thought.

Then some bright spark says that all sorts of funny people who run these place from across the pond want sorting out first,they all have black crombie coats and carry violin cases.

Then bright spark number two suggest a Gambling Commission to vet
them who want to run these places.

Then bright spark number three suggested that lets put all bookmakers through this system hence the formation of the GC.

What has happened all books pay a 3000 percent more than they did pre GC. Gordon said no we are not having any big casinos.

So we are lumbered with a dirty great quango that sole purpose is to make sure we put our under 18 signs up and do not take a bet off any body who cannot afford it.

What was wrong with the old magistrates system... nothing.
lets go back .

With the country in the mire as it is I would have thought it would be sensible to dispand this expensive excersise . It dont do nowt.

It has been legal for the financial sector to defraud people for some time. The GC have brought "fairness to gambling" by making it just as legal to ** people through gambling.

flypitcher
your history is spot on, but now they've created this monster, they wont be able to quash it quickly - it will last decades - much to the delight of the big 3 as they reap the extra market share!

No small indies in 2/3 years time, unless taking £1m+ per year

Opened at 10 o'clock today, by 11 o'clock I'd took 54 bets,

26 Irish Lotterys
14 footy bets
8 virtual horses 2 virtual dogs
2 real dog bets
1 49 bet
and 1 bet on the afternoon horses, most people in my place today think the 2000 guineas is a beer festival in Ireland.

Beat this if u can
Jersey has set up a gambling commission costing a MILLION pounds every 3 years, to be paid for by the local gambling establishments, ie 29 bookies,a few bingo clubs, local lotteries,no casino, WHY.
To control egaming that they think will come to Jersey after they have all set up elsewhere, the bookies are2/3 controlled by stock exchange companies ie lads,hills,the rest indies.What trouble have they been NONE.
How will they earn their exhorbitant money ???

By making sure you put up a few stickers, and offer counselling to anyone who loses a score.