After such a successful C/S Laying thread for the 08/09 season i thought it may be time to open up a new thread for the forthcoming season.
I have been eagerly counting down the days until the 09/10 season kicks off and it is finally less than 24 hours away.
I havent had many bets in the pre-season and have decided to kick off this new season with a Correct Score Laying £1000 bank.
I shall be using 2 x banks of £250 with a back up 'pot" of £500 incase the first banks go BUST!! Initially i will be using the nail biting 'All In' staking system!!.
Im going to post a few thoughts on the Middlesborough v Sheff Utd match and will welcome al thoughts.
Hopefully together we can have yet another succesful season, but most of all...... PROFITABLE!!!!!!
So far so "good" MP =========================================== GAME 672 Fixtures 26 July / Bray v Villarreal / Half Time Score 0 - 0 Lay 26-Jul-10 19:25 4.3 15.00 4.3 26-Jul-10 19:25 ============================================================== BRAY should have better match fitness...but VR should be too sharp for them....though they do have a fixture against SPURS in a few days ...and that game will mean more to them....so this is probably a warming up game. Hopefully a goal can be scored 1st half by either.
My guess on final score is 1-4.
GL with bets
So far so "good" MP===========================================GAME 672Fixtures 26 July / Bray v Villarreal / Half Time Score 0 - 0 Lay 26-Jul-1019:25 4.3 15.00 4.3 26-Jul-10 19:25 ==============================================================
Keflavik have 2nd best defensive record in the league, but along with their opponents they have the joint worst attacking record, so I thought 14 looked a little short for a 2-2
Fixtures 26 July / Keflavik v Grindavik / Correct Score 2 - 2 Lay 11618973184 26-Jul-1019:55 14 £12.00 14 26-Jul-10 19:58 Keflavik have 2nd best defensive record in the league, but along with their opponents they
Fixtures 26 July / Keflavik v Grindavik / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 26-Jul-10 20:49 17.5 12.00 17.5 26-Jul-10 20:49 ============================================================================Hi PJ .....looks a tricky game...but away team appear to concede goals and can score some too.....but suspect home team will win 2-1.
GL with bets.
GAME 673 Fixtures 26 July / Keflavik v Grindavik / Correct Score 0 - 0 Lay 26-Jul-1020:49 17.5 12.00 17.5 26-Jul-10 20:49 ============================================================================Hi PJ .....looks a tricky game...but away te
I was looking for a mystic to lay on thread but fortunately you posted whilst I was at work
MM you say stay away from dansk match (could be tight game). Surely this creates betting opportunities like unders, draw, away team with a goal, etc.
Brøndby win on Sunday btw @2.1 bet 5pts. I have had a good few months so I will be overstaking big time. Woop woop
good guess on OB game DFC...spot onI was looking for a mystic to lay on thread but fortunately you posted whilst I was at workMM you say stay away from dansk match (could be tight game). Surely this creates betting opportunities like unders, draw, aw
Omonia v Red Bull Salzburg lAY 1 - 0 7.2 £5.32 £38.30 £32.98 Ref: 11624751098 Bet placed: 16:27 27-Jul-10
Omonia fancied to win this, warm weather factor (30+ in Cyprus this evening?).. and they're a pretty good outfit too. Red Bull ought to score, that's why I've gone for the 1-0, my guess is 1-1/2-0/2-1 ft. gl.
Omonia v Red Bull SalzburglAY 1 - 0 7.2 £5.32 £38.30 £32.98Ref: 11624751098 Bet placed: 16:27 27-Jul-10Omonia fancied to win this, warm weather factor (30+ in Cyprus this evening?).. and they're a pretty good outfit too. Red Bull
I think I'm going to be extremely lucky to survive this one.. Sparta haven't had a sniff of a chance at scoring yet, and |I doubt they will in the second half. Lech have had the better of them so far, and I wouldn't be surprised if they pinch it 0-1.
I think I'm going to be extremely lucky to survive this one.. Sparta haven't had a sniff of a chance at scoring yet, and |I doubt they will in the second half. Lech have had the better of them so far, and I wouldn't be surprised if the
Hi John,good work, I layed the 0-0 as well. I was panicking at 9! I've managed a return on investment of 74% so far by laying the full time score. I think this seems to be the most reliable way of betting.
Hi John,good work, I layed the 0-0 as well. I was panicking at 9! I've managed a return on investment of 74% so far by laying the full time score. I think this seems to be the most reliable way of betting.
Hi Leerov, good returns so far then! Stick up a few of your picks, join the fun.
Layed Nagoya 1-1 @ 9.4, as yet unmatched.
Nagoya v Shonan - Correct Score 1 - 1 Ref: 11630850493 Total bet 9.4 £6.54 £61.48 £54.94 Unmatched 9.4 £6.54 £61.48 £54.94 Ref: 11630850493 Bet placed: 09:42 28-Jul-10
Hi Leerov, good returns so far then!Stick up a few of your picks, join the fun. Layed Nagoya 1-1 @ 9.4, as yet unmatched.Nagoya v Shonan - Correct Score1 - 1Ref: 11630850493 Total bet 9.4 £6.54 £61.48 £54.94 Unmatched 9.4
Young Boys v Fenerbahce - Correct Score Lay 1-1 liab 55.00 to win 6.87 1 - 1 8.4 £5.84 £49.06 £43.22 Ref: Bet matched: 8.6 £1.39 £11.95 £10.56
Was going to lay 1-0.. missed it by seconds
Young Boys v Fenerbahce - Correct ScoreLay 1-1 liab 55.00 to win 6.871 - 1 8.4 £5.84 £49.06 £43.22Ref: Bet matched: 8.6 £1.39 £11.95 £10.56Was going to lay 1-0.. missed it by seconds
Time to get this started again i thinkI'll just continue with my CS bank from the other thread, currently at £22.68. I know it's risky laying 0-0 in a copa Lib game but Sao paulo will Probably concede at least one, i can see a 1-1 or 2-1 h
Last known sighting of DFC, as far as I can see, was on Prem. div. table in 'your competitions'. I'm sure there's a perfectly logical reason why he's not been seen since, lost connection, pc gone bang or something.. just hope he's not seriously ill. I doubt he's gone bust, been at this game too long, and cs is a sideline away from the horses.
Last known sighting of DFC, as far as I can see, was on Prem. div. table in 'your competitions'. I'm sure there's a perfectly logical reason why he's not been seen since, lost connection, pc gone bang or something.. just hope
2-1 Olympiakos ... was genuinely worried about that one!
Well great oaks etc.. MM. I've done that as well, got stuffed laying shorties, longies, midi's.. you name it! At least laying shorties is ok if you balance the staking, I found trying for a level profit, say a fiver a match/race goes well at times. Gl.
Still no sign of DFC?
2-1 Olympiakos ... was genuinely worried about that one!Well great oaks etc.. MM.I've done that as well, got stuffed laying shorties, longies, midi's.. you name it!At least laying shorties is ok if you balance the staking, I found trying f
Next bet will be Standard Liege game. Last time I saw Liege play they were awful, but the Belgian football is very poor to say the least. Even so, Liege SHOULD win this... might go for the 1-1 lay @ 8's...
Next bet will be Standard Liege game. Last time I saw Liege play they were awful, but the Belgian football is very poor to say the least. Even so, Liege SHOULD win this... might go for the 1-1 lay @ 8's...
I think the 1-1 is quite risky imo. good luck though. I'm going to lay the 0-1Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability0 - 1 17.5 £1.49 £26.08 £24.59
yes, 1-1 is risky.. stand to lose 12.70 on the 0-0, and 48.70 on the 0-1. Odds suggest a win to nil for Standard, and can't see why 1-1 is so low.. or do THEY KNOW??
yes, 1-1 is risky.. stand to lose 12.70 on the 0-0, and 48.70 on the 0-1.Odds suggest a win to nil for Standard, and can't see why 1-1 is so low.. or do THEY KNOW??gl anyway.0 - 1 17.5 £3.05 £53.38 £50.33Ref: 11656905129 Bet plac
Nice one 'Mon.. the red card put paid to Zulte scoring a second, which imo was likely. I said before ko that Liege were cr@p.. and haven't changed my mind. Staying away from this league from now on. Layed Unquoted in the Benfica match (at 7.2).. will trade for a bit of profit. gl.
Nice one 'Mon.. the red card put paid to Zulte scoring a second, which imo was likely. I said before ko that Liege were cr@p.. and haven't changed my mind. Staying away from this league from now on. Layed Unquoted in the Benfica match (at 7
I hope you traded out johnizere, AU didn't look possible at half time[smiley:crazy] I'm going to lay 1-0 in the Portuguesa game, Sao Caetano should score imo
I hope you traded out johnizere, AU didn't look possible at half timeI'm going to lay 1-0 in the Portuguesa game, Sao Caetano should score imoLay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout Liability1 - 0 10
I've bottled out of the 1-0 lay lost 6p in the trade so my CS bank is now £26.05AU looks like a better lay @9.4 Lay Backer's Odds Backer's Stake Payout LiabilityAny Unquoted 9.4 £3.10 £29.14
No, I didn't trade the benfica match, I was too greedy... I could have taken 3.00 just before the 2-1 score, then the odds went way too low, and never recovered. Down 45 quid on the night, thats over half the weeks profit gone, and I was doing so well. Onwards and upwards [;)]
No, I didn't trade the benfica match, I was too greedy... I could have taken 3.00 just before the 2-1 score, then the odds went way too low, and never recovered. Down 45 quid on the night, thats over half the weeks profit gone, and I was doing s
STARTING BANK was £2,000, but I used this plus profits plus an input of extra £1,000 approx to cover position when a number of games being played roughly at same time etc.
I don't go "all-in" ....but was prepared to use up to £5,000 exposure on some games where I felt there was a strong chance bet would "win". WAS restricting liability GENERALLY to max limit of £1,750 on any one event.
As from WEEK 18 have changed STAKING drastically, and GENERALLY will, at start of day's betting, just go for 0.01% of that day's starting bank as profit target per game. This will substantially reduce the level of liability risked on most games. If I lose on a CS LAY, then I will substantially INCREASE STAKES witha view to recoup the loss on previous lay, BUT ONLY IF I FEEL STRONGLY ON CS LAY'S CHANCES OF WINNING FROM IT.
I might not go for all the amount lost on CS LAY, and might spread it over 2/3/4 CS LAY bets, but the objective will be to recover the loss and to end up with an average profit per game bet on of 0.01% after commission IT WILL NOT BE AN AUTOMATIC INCREASE IN STAKING, BUT BE BASED ON MY EXPECTATIONS THAT THE BET WILL WIN. I MIGHT JUST GO FOR THE NORMAL PROFIT PER GAME OF 0.01% ON THE NEXT MATCH, IF I THINK IT IS NOT A STRONG BET ETC.
CUMULATIVE PROFIT B/F FROM END WEEK 8 .............£ 5,924.23
PROFIT FOR DAY 57(SUNDAY).................................. 482.49 PROFIT FOR DAY 58(MONDAY)................................. 304.60 LOSS FOR DAY 59(TUESDAY)................................. ) LOSS FOR DAY 60(WEDNESDAY)............................... ) PROFIT FOR DAY 61(THURSDAY)...............................468.99 PROFIT FOR DAY 62(FRIDAY)...................................330.47 LOSS FOR DAY 63(SATURDAY)................................ )
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 63 DAYS.......................£ 5,350.89 END OF WEEK 9
PROFIT FOR DAY 64(SUNDAY)....................................929.85 PROFIT FOR DAY 65(MONDAY)...................................211.11 PROFIT FOR DAY 66(TUESDAY).................................. 295.29 PROFIT FOR DAY 67(WEDNESDAY)............................. 511.45 PROFIT FOR DAY 68(THURSDAY)............................... 334.13 PROFIT FOR DAY 69(FRIDAY)................................... 233.15 PROFIT FOR DAY70(SATURDAY)............................. 990.09
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 70 DAYS.......................£ 8,855.96 END WEEK 10
WEEK 11 PROFIT FOR DAY 71(SUNDAY).................................. 90.61 PROFIT FOR DAY 72(MONDAY)................................... 410.36 PROFIT FOR DAY 73(TUESDAY)................................. 68.69 LOSS FOR DAY 74(WEDNESDAY)............................... ) PROFIT FOR DAY 75(THURSDAY)................................ 162.20 PROFIT FOR DAY 76(FRIDAY)................................... 709.45 PROFIT FOR DAY 77(SATURDAY)............................... 240.59
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 77 DAYS.......................£ 10,454.50 END WEEK 11
WEEK12 PROFIT FOR DAY 78(SUNDAY).................................. 452.64 LOSS FOR DAY 79 (MONDAY).................................... 385.81 ) PROFIT FOR DAY 80(TUESDAY)................................. 450.01 PROFIT FOR DAY 81(WEDNESDAY).............................. 602.53 PROFIT FOR DAY 82(THURSDAY)................................ 491.64 PROFIT FOR DAY 83(FRIDAY).................................. 429.37 PROFIT FOR DAY 84(SATURDAY)................................ 659.29
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 84 DAYS.......................£ 13,154.57 END WEEK 12
WEEK 13 PROFIT FOR DAY 85(SUNDAY).................................. 648.07 PROFIT FOR DAY 86(MONDAY)................................... 287.87 LOSS FOR DAY 87 (TUESDAY)................................... 418.36 ) LOSS FOR DAY 88 (WEDNESDAY).............................. (.978.88 ) LOSS FOR DAY 89 (THURSDAY).................................. ) PROFIT FOR DAY 90(FRIDAY).....................................578.06 LOSS FOR DAY 91 (SATURDAY)................................( 2,702.00 )
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 91 DAYS.......................£ 7,845.55 END WEEK 13
WEEK 14 PROFIT FOR DAY 92( SUNDAY).................................2,166.02 PROFIT FOR DAY 93(MONDAY)................................... 659.48 PROFIT FOR DAY 94(TUESDAY).................................. 245.38 PROFIT FOR DAY 95(WEDNESDAY)............................. 605.01 PROFIT FOR DAY 96(THURSDAY)............................... 589.87 PROFIT FOR DAY 97(FRIDAY)................................... 394.54 PROFIT FOR DAY 98(SATURDAY)............................... 972.91
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 98 DAYS.......................£ 13,482.76 END OF WEEK 14
WEEK 15 LOSS FOR DAY 99(SUNDAY)................................... ( 617.75 ) TOOK A HOLIDAY ON DAY 100 (MONDAY)........................ 0.00 PROFIT FOR DAY 101(TUESDAY)............................... 384.87 LOSS FOR DAY 102(WEDNESDAY).............................. ) PROFIT FOR DAY 103(THURSDAY)................................ 9.72 LOSS FOR DAY 104(FRIDAY)................................. 2,035.38 ) PROFIT FOR DAY 105(SATURDAY)............................. 1,059.68
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 105 DAYS.£ 12,075.26 END OF WEEK 15
WEEK 16 LOSS FOR DAY LOSS FOR DAY 106(SUNDAY)........( 112.50 ) PROFIT FOR DAY 107(MONDAY)................ 386.80 PROFIT FOR DAY 108(TUESDAY)................129.43 PROFIT FOR DAY 109(WEDNESDAY)..............412.57 PROFIT FOR DAY 110(THURSDAY)............... 290.11 PROFIT FOR DAY 111 (FRIDAY)................ 249.48 PROFIT FOR DAY 112(SATURDAY)............... 504.38
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 112 DAYS..£ 13,935.53 END WEEK 16
WEEK 17 LOSS FOR DAY 113 (SUNDAY)..........( 550.23 ) PROFIT FOR DAY 114(MONDAY)........... 244.69 PROFIT FOR DAY 115(TUESDAY).......... 116.04 LOSS FOR DAY 116(WEDNESDAY).........( 333.77 ) LOSS FOR DAY 117(THURSDAY).........(2,466.94 ) PROFIT FOR DAY 118(FRIDAY)........... 462.23 PROFIT FOR DAY 119(SATURDAY).......... 78.82
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 119 DAYS £ 11,486.37 END WEEK 17 ==========================================================
NEW METHOD OF STAKING APPLIED FROM START OF WEEK 18 CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 119 DAYS..b/f £ 11,486.37
PROFIT FOR DAY 120(SUNDAY)................. 385.69 PROFIT FOR DAY 121(MONDAY)................. 212.74 PROFIT FOR DAY 122(TUESDAY)................ 161.49 PROFIT FOR DAY 123(WEDNESDAY).............. 431.35 LOSS FOR DAY 124 (THURSDAY)...............( 694.46 ) PROFIT FOR DAY 125(FRIDAY)..................510.50 PROFIT FOR DAY 126(SATURDAY)................470.01
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 126 DAYS .....£ 12,963.69 END OF WEEK 18
WEEK 19 PROFIT FOR DAY 127(SUNDAY)................. 498.15 PROFIT FOR DAY 128 (MONDAY)................. 412.85 PROFIT FOR DAY 129 (TUESDAY)................ 344.43 PROFIT FOR DAY 130 (WEDNESDAY).............. 395.7 PROFIT FOR DAY 131 (THURSDAY)............... 228.55 PROFIT FOR DAY 132 (FRIDAY)....................4.33 PROFIT FOR DAY 133 (SATURDAY)............... 287.93
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 133 DAYS .....£ 15,135.63 END WEEK 19
WEEK 20 PROFIT FOR DAY 134 (SUNDAY)................ 443.81 LOSS FOR DAY 135 (MONDAY)................ ( 144.30 ) LOSS FOR DAY 136 (TUESDAY)................(. 84.13 )
CUMULATIVE PROFIT AFTER 136 DAYS .....£ 15,351.01
SINCE LAST ABOVE UPDATE RESULTS HAVE BEEN
338.85 -704.66 WED 2ND JUNE
505.56 -303.42 THURS 3RD JUNE
-1065.77 365.15 FRID 4TH JUNE
-2457.04 1241.38 SAT 5TH JUNE
407.78 551.03 SUN 6TH JUNE
338.44 142.13 MON 7TH JUNE
-370.93 HOLIDAY TUES 8TH JUNE
401.79 544.23 WED 9TH JUNE
437.93 231.1 THURS 10 June
150.25 223.41 FRID 11 June
-2327.1 -2627.3 SAT 12 June
482.36 -2179.01 SUNDAY 13 June
418.63 -934.37 MOND 14 June
1.34 174.06 TUES 15 June
482.46 -396.16 WED 16 June
-1898.76 1277.6 THURS 17 June
-25.11 -1598.4 FRID 18 June
515.3 -137.7 SAT 19 June
297.41 -977.87 SUN 20 June
364.29 512.37 MON 21 June
259.29 -808.19 TUES 22 June
-608.42 615.65 WED 23 June
283.17 441.41 THURS 24 June
344.39 -1231.94 FRID 25 June
-54.85 540.79 SAT 26 June
256.72 449.89 SUN 27 June
-747.28 450.62 MOND 28 June
260.66 -1833.37 TUES 29 June
772.52 291.21 WED 30 June
161.74 -33.41 THURS 01 July
-205.33 86.56 FRID 02 July
634.91 325.64 SAT 03 July
-1294 407.38 SUN 04 July
-5.25 441.42 MON 05 July
-1118.97 164.56 TUES 07 July
-1239.37 -1378 WED 08 July
394.29 210.74 THURS 09 July
-596.41 -211.78 FRID 10 July
390.69 159.24 SAT 11 July
-9.72 1809.56 SUND 12 July
347.99 -93.59 MOND 13 July
95.75 521.44 TUESD 14 July
-1059.76 -2889.01 WED 15 July
486.15 531.44 THURS 16 July
315.04 83.37 FRID 17 July
430.1 -1253.17 SAT 18 July
109.21 -500.04 SUN 19 July
272.65 -192.3 MON 20 July
214.78 184.05 TUES 21 July
364.71 -455.3 WED 22 July
198.37 225.78 THURS 23 July
240.85 113.11 FRID 24 July
351.92 190.12 SAT 25 July
-213.86 90.42 SUN 26 July
-712.78 188.55 MON 27 July
THEREFORE CUMULATIVE PROFIT WAS AFTER 136 DAYS 15351.01
LOSS DURING ABOVE PERIOD ON THREAD ( 6953.08 )
NET PROFIT ON THREAD 8397.13
The World Cup cost a few thousand ...but still in profit on thread posts.....
Racing started ...will post thoughts later.
GL with bets today
STARTING BANK was £2,000, but I used this plus profits plus an input of extra £1,000 approx to cover position when a number of games being played roughly at same time etc.I don't go "all-in" ....but was prepared to use up to £5,000 exposure o
Ignore figures on left hand side ....as that was horse racing results.....eg on last day above the profit was 188.55 from CS LAYS etc...the -712.78 was loss on horses
Ignore figures on left hand side ....as that was horse racing results.....eg on last day above the profit was 188.55 from CS LAYS etc...the -712.78 was loss on horses
I'm busy with racing A........why don't you list what you think the strategy is based on.......basically "common sense" using stats...and some guesses....
I will post "thoughts2 later re my views on CS LAYS etc
I'm busy with racing A........why don't you list what you think the strategy is based on.......basically "common sense" using stats...and some guesses....I will post "thoughts2 later re my views on CS LAYS etc
If you trawl through the posts on this thread DFC has posted lots of info on his reasons for choosing various CS Lays and readily highlights how he doesn't possess an 'edge' (although he is in profit over a long period of time of laying CS).
I think the key for CS lays, is to use your judgement, look at some previous results of both teams, look at team selection maybe, look at goals scored and conceded and formulate your own view.
No edge. Just an informed 'guess'. Then there's staking....another big issue! You'll find yourself laying higher prices which if caught can wipe a lot of your bank/profit.
Good luck anyway. Looking forward to new season starting!
Avocado.If you trawl through the posts on this thread DFC has posted lots of info on his reasons for choosing various CS Lays and readily highlights how he doesn't possess an 'edge' (although he is in profit over a long period of time
'The real money is in match odds, backing and laying'.
Do you mean liquidity for the amounts you are wanting to trade or better value to return profit?
I sometimes find 'value' or what I perceive to be 'value' in the HT/FT markets.
GL.
Avocado..'The real money is in match odds, backing and laying'. Do you mean liquidity for the amounts you are wanting to trade or better value to return profit?I sometimes find 'value' or what I perceive to be 'value' in
It's a fair point. Most markets are derived from only two factors. Goal supremacy (how much better one team is than the other)and goal expectation (how many goals is the match likely to produce). If either of these are wrong, value will be found and found most easily in match odds or overs/unders, but also in many other linked markets. For a CS to offer value, these other markets will offer value too.
CS prices are not inflated, it's just that bookies are carrying a healthy margin.
It's a fair point. Most markets are derived from only two factors. Goal supremacy (how much better one team is than the other)and goal expectation (how many goals is the match likely to produce). If either of these are wrong, value will be found