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Kemp:

2.25 Five Star Junior
5.20 Gala Evening

Donc:

2.45 Spectait
3.20 Inexile
5.40 Toshi

Ling:

3.25 Perfect Line
4.00 Quick Beam
4.35 Super Foreman
5.10 Shinnecock Bay

Uttox:

4.20 Yeoman Spirit
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Report 1977 August 3, 2009 12:36 PM BST
Day 107

Monday 3rd August 2009


Todays Selections:

Ripon:


3.15 Moheebb
3.45 Red Cape
5.15 Go Go Green


Carlisle:

5.45 Carpe Diem
7.15 Fathey
8.15 Cheers For Thea
8.45 Bold Bomber


Good Luck
Report sanddancer August 3, 2009 12:47 PM BST
Thanks Steve, good luck mate :)
Report geordiemidland August 3, 2009 1:44 PM BST
good luck to you
Report maven August 3, 2009 8:27 PM BST
This is not a criticism but your total bank is staying round the same level. Earlier it was racing ahead. Have you changed your selection criteria at all?
Report steveitfc August 3, 2009 9:16 PM BST
It's been going down since I climbed aboard!!!
Report 1977 August 4, 2009 1:07 PM BST
Day 109

Tuesday 4th August 2009

Todays Selections:


Chepstow:


2.10 Pico De Say
5.40 HArrison Flyer


Catterick:

4.20 High Curragh


Newton Abbot:

3.30 Nudge And Nurdle


Good Luck
Report Sligo August 4, 2009 1:09 PM BST
GL Steve today.
Report kingfish August 4, 2009 1:25 PM BST
bad start
Report geordiemidland August 4, 2009 2:10 PM BST
good luck
Report kingfish August 4, 2009 9:14 PM BST
that was a crap days racing hope tomorrows better
Report kingfish August 4, 2009 9:14 PM BST
that was a crap days racing hope tomorrows better
Report The Sports Investor August 5, 2009 8:34 AM BST
SHAPESHIFTER,
I've only picked 15 lays so one loser and it takes a BIG chunk of the bank, I think thats why a lot of people lose here lose. They start a system ( or whatever ) have one loser and see there bank drop big and give up and start something new. It's SLOWLY at first, build the bank up and when you get a loser it won't hurt so bad.
Report The Sports Investor August 5, 2009 8:35 AM BST
sorry posted on wrong thread :)
Report 1977 August 5, 2009 1:20 PM BST
Day 110

Wednesday 5th August 2009


Todays Selections:

Pontefract:


3.40 High Ambition
4.40 Paraguay
5.10 Northern Flyer


Brighton:

3.30 Art Value
4.00 Burns Night
5.00 Short Cut


Kempton:

6.05 King Supreme
6.35 The Grey One


Yarmouth:

5.50 Takaamul
6.50 Sotik Star


Good Luck

Steve


Updates to follow - been here there and everywhere so haven't had the time to update figs.
Report falbrav7 August 5, 2009 1:20 PM BST
Based on that criterion, choose the horses from layed?
Anyway congratulations to the system that seems to work well
Report Sligo August 5, 2009 4:59 PM BST
Am down nearly a thousand euro since 27 June on these lays. Time to bow out I think. :-(

Lesson learned - no such thing as a free lunch and do my own homework in future.
Report kavvie August 5, 2009 5:05 PM BST
ud be better off staying in and getting your money back.what u r doing is like selling shares at the bottom of the cycle!
Report The Sports Investor August 5, 2009 5:33 PM BST
Sligo 05 Aug 17:59
" Am down nearly a thousand euro since 27 June on these lays. Time to bow out I think. "

that's so unfair. he makes profit FACT, you just joined at the wrong time.
Report Glasgow Brian August 5, 2009 5:40 PM BST
He needs to tell you the prices that he lays @
Report kavvie August 5, 2009 5:50 PM BST
why brian?dont ruin it.its free and its good.thats all you need to know.
Report Ivor August 5, 2009 8:34 PM BST
A share price rises and falls. The winner buys low and sells high - the loser buys high and sells low. sadly, we don't know where the highs and lows are until they've already happened.
Report Sligo August 5, 2009 8:45 PM BST
Know what you guys mean. Thought things had bottomed out a week or two ago as there was a steady climb.

Might keep the faith with PP for another while. The corner will be turned. I know the laying price is key too to the profit/loss figure.
Report Glasgow Brian August 5, 2009 8:52 PM BST
kavvie -----not been a spoilsport but this is a must --MASSIVELY IMPORTANT
Report Glasgow Brian August 5, 2009 8:54 PM BST
IVOR -are you referring to REGRESSION TO THE MEAN ?
Report kavvie August 5, 2009 9:41 PM BST
brian he doesnt have to explain himself as he owes us nothing.he explained previously that there is no set pattern to his lay prices.some shorten some drift.its not scientific.he lays to a set loss at the time he does .as i do.in fact a surprising amount of the ones that win are drifters.when ur laying a good number most days its hard to set a specific price to lay them all at.he uses whatever criteria he uses and puts them up here.when i see them i lay each one to a fixed loss.if they are short ill win more.if they are long ill win less.i hope you understand what im saying.and its working for me so im happy!
Report kingfish August 6, 2009 2:08 PM BST
you've all given him the hump now
Report kingfish August 6, 2009 2:08 PM BST
you've all given him the hump now
Report freddiewilliams August 6, 2009 2:10 PM BST
what date he have the 2k loss
Report SHAPESHIFTER August 6, 2009 3:23 PM BST
the thread is information. Not a database of gains and losses.

Look at it as a "long list".

From there, look at those races objectively. Can you find two or three that you think will beat that horse? Is it value? If yes, go for it. If no, move to the next.

I recently was part of a research of 60 people on baseball betting. At the time, someone set up a survey system that we each picked 2 games by 11AM EST stressing that we had to way out value. An hour later, we got an email with two selections but did not know the criteria.

It worked well with small, steady gains.

At the end of June, we were told that the emails had actually sent us either the 2nd and 3rd highest ranked picks if less than nine games and when there were nine or more games, the 3rd and 4th.

It also showed if it had simply selected the 1st and 2nd, the strike-rate was almost the same but made less because of value.

Take information for what it is but use it in a way that is appropriate for you.

And value; if you think the value on a lay is 3/1 and the price is higher, simply put a keep at 3/1 or less. If it gets matched in-running, you got your value, win or lose. If not, there is always another race.

There are no "click and win plays" on betfair.
Report grumpy69 August 6, 2009 8:08 PM BST
Ah well, back to laying Alan Keyte!
Report 1977 August 6, 2009 9:57 PM BST
Evening

In responce to Sligo etc.

My selections have been having a bad run of things lately and including the £2k loss which was my fault really made a dent in the figures, bringing the £16k bank down to £10k.

But now the bank is back up around the £15k mark.

The bank has remained at the same level for around 2 months which I know is not ideal but when laying thats how things go. There are a lot of ups and downs.

If you had joined at the worst point recently you could have lost over 40% of your bank in a matter of a few days/week - this would put most people off.

Laying is a long grind and a lot of patience is needed. There are no get rich quick schemes!

I will continue to post regardless and I WILL turn the corner.

Regards
Steve
Report Sligo August 6, 2009 10:14 PM BST
No offence meant on my part Steve. Anyone who puts their picks up regularly on here deserves credit.

Your figures over the piece speak for themselves and I have agreed all along laying is a long term project and you are ahead of the curve so well done and continued good luck.

You pays your money and you take your chances - thats the name of the game. We are all aware of the risks. I missed a good period when on hols and caught a sticky one on return.

Look forward to seeing your selections tomorrow and going forward.
Report maven August 7, 2009 11:59 AM BST
Come on lads lets not be so sensitive! As long as the comments arent abusive whats wrong with a few differing views - a bit of banter is half the point of these threads. Its almost as if you are scared that Steve will run away just because someone questions him. I am sure he is not that fickle. And its just possible some of the suggestions might help him.
Report blackout August 7, 2009 1:16 PM BST
The system has made good money a lot better than many stocks, trusta etc.

Its not about coming in and betting for a few months expecting miracles, its a growth through time and should be treated a such.

same as stock market and property.

Dont bet too much too soon
Report sanddancer August 7, 2009 3:22 PM BST
Hi Steve, glad you're going to continue mate. When are you thinking of restarting your selections?
Report 1977 August 10, 2009 11:31 AM BST
Morning Lads and Lass',

Haven't been away intentionally - actually had a fire in my kitchen last week!

Bloody oven caught on fire and my whole house filled up with horrible accrid smoke - if anyone has experienced this you will know what a nighmare it is to get rid of the stench!

Thank Goodness I was in the house alone and my Mrs. and little girl were out as the smoke must have knocked me out as I awoke to the Mrs. kicking the door trying to wake me up!

I couldn't even see how to get out of the house and it was honestly one of the scariest things that's happened to me in my life.

She told me afterwards that she could see smoke billowing out of our living room window while walking home.

Mrs. and I have had to wash the whole house interior,curtains, carpets and bedding etc and you can still smell smoke.

Absolute Nightmare.


Anyway, I will update the thread today and get the wheels oiled and rolling again.


Regards

Steve
Report treble August 10, 2009 11:47 AM BST
Sorry to hear that. Glad you're all OK.

I'm new to this thread, but thought I might follow your lays for a few quid :)
Report 1977 August 10, 2009 11:50 AM BST
Thanks - Follow at your peril :-)
Report treble August 10, 2009 11:54 AM BST
No worries. I never bet money I can't afford to lose.
Report gleeman August 10, 2009 12:14 PM BST
Sorry to hear about that, Steve - must have been very scary!

A few bets on the horses seem pretty trivial when something like that happens. I hope you are OK apart from the damage to the house.
Report geordiemidland August 10, 2009 1:28 PM BST
glad your back i live in the midlands if you need any help let me knowl
Report Ivor August 10, 2009 2:00 PM BST
Should be a book ''Betfair Real Lives''. PP is now a battered husband :(
Report 1977 August 10, 2009 2:39 PM BST
Day 105

Friday 31st July 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank: £13,748.67
Bank High: £16,460.78


Today's Stakes Remain Unchanged:

Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £164.60
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £148.14
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £121.68
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £115.22
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £98.76
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £82.30
Prices from 8.6 to 9.5: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £65.84
Prices from 9.6 to 10.5 lay to 0.3% of bank - backer's stake £49.38
Prices from 10.6 to 11.5 lay to 0.2% of bank - backer's stake £32.92



Todays Selections:

Goodwood:


2.10 Drun Fire 6.2 £115.22 4/1 L ;-)
2.45 Harrison Gearge 8.2 £82.30 6/1f L ;-)
5.10 Cosmopolitan 11.0 £32.92 9/1 L ;-)


Bangor:

3.05 Hareem 6.0 £115.22 7/2 L ;-)
4.15 Don Castile ***NR***
5.25 Deadline 7.0 £98.76 5/1 W :-( (-£592.56)
6.00 Intense Suspense 4.4 £148.14 10/3f L ;-)


Newmarket:

7.30 Esteem Machine 7.0 £98.76 6/1 W :-( (-£592.56)


Haydock:

8.20 Supaverdi 4.6 £121.68 7/2 W :-( (-£438.04)


Good Luck


Todays Takings: £493.80 Less 5 % Comm. £469.11
Todays Losses: £1,623.16
Profit/Loss: -£1,154.05

Bank: £13,748.67

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L -10.60Points
Total P + L +176.85 Points

Todays Strike Rate 62.5%
Total Strike Rate 87.19%
Wins 627 - 721 Bets
Report 1977 August 10, 2009 2:40 PM BST
Day 106

Saturday 1st August 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank:£14,065.62
Bank High: £16,460.78


Today's Stakes Remain Unchanged:

Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £164.60
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £148.14
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £121.68
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £115.22
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £98.76
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £82.30
Prices from 8.6 to 9.5: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £65.84
Prices from 9.6 to 10.5 lay to 0.3% of bank - backer's stake £49.38
Prices from 10.6 to 11.5 lay to 0.2% of bank - backer's stake £32.92



Todays Selections:


Goodwood:


1.55 Becausewecan 6.4 £115.22 9/2f L ;-)
3.40 Markab 9.4 £65.84 8/1f L ;-)
5.25 Road To Love ***NR***


Doncaster:


3.15 Zidane 7.6 £82.30 15/2 W :-( (-£543.18)
3.50 Safari Sunup 8.0 £82.30 6/1 L ;-)


Newmarket:

5.40 Incendo 4.3 £148.14 3/1jf L ;-)


Thirsk:

2.55 Kalasan 10.5 £49.38 8/1 L ;-)
4.40 Jackday 6.4 £115.22 5/1 L ;-)


Hamilton:

7.40 Dontpaytheferryman 3.4 £164.60 2/1f L ;-)
9.10 Hippolytus 5.8 £115.22 4/1 L ;-)


Lingfield:

7.25 Vanadium 9.8 £49.38 (op 8) 12/1 L ;-)


Good Luck


Todays Takings: £905.30 Less 5 % Comm. £860.03
Todays Losses: £543.18
Profit/Loss: £316.85 :-)

Bank:£14,065.62

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L+1.95 Points
Total P + L +178.80 Points

Todays Strike Rate 90%
Total Strike Rate 87.19%
Wins 636 - 731 Bets
Report 1977 August 10, 2009 2:41 PM BST
Day 107

Monday 3rd August 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank:£13,523.67
Bank High: £16,460.78


Today's Stakes Remain Unchanged:

Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £164.60
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £148.14
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £121.68
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £115.22
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £98.76
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £82.30
Prices from 8.6 to 9.5: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £65.84
Prices from 9.6 to 10.5 lay to 0.3% of bank - backer's stake £49.38
Prices from 10.6 to 11.5 lay to 0.2% of bank - backer's stake £32.92



Todays Selections:


Ripon:


3.15 Moheebb 6.6 £98.76 7/1 W :-( (-£553.05)
3.45 Red Cape 5.2 £121.68 7/2f W :-( (-£511.05)
5.15 Go Go Green 6.4 £115.22 5/1 L ;-)


Carlisle:

5.45 Carpe Diem 7.2 £98.76 6/1 L ;-)
7.15 Fathey 6.0 £115.22 4/1 L ;-)
8.15 Cheers For Thea 5.4 £121.68 4/1jf L ;-)
8.45 Bold Bomber 7.4 £98.76 6/1 L ;-)




Good Luck


Todays Takings: £549.64 Less 5 % Comm. £522.15
Todays Losses: £1,064.10
Profit/Loss: £541.92

Bank:£13,523.67

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L -5.05 Points
Total P + L +173.75 Points

Todays Strike Rate 71.42%
Total Strike Rate 87.19%
Wins 641 - 738 Bets
Report 1977 August 10, 2009 2:41 PM BST
Day 108

Tuesday 4th August 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank:£13,226.98
Bank High: £16,460.78


Today's Stakes Remain Unchanged:

Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £164.60
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £148.14
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £121.68
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £115.22
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £98.76
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £82.30
Prices from 8.6 to 9.5: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £65.84
Prices from 9.6 to 10.5 lay to 0.3% of bank - backer's stake £49.38
Prices from 10.6 to 11.5 lay to 0.2% of bank - backer's stake £32.92



Todays Selections:


Chepstow:


2.10 Pico De Say 6.6 £98.76 11/2 W :-( (-£553.05)
5.40 Harrison Flyer ***ABANDONED***


Catterick:

4.20 High Curragh 4.3 £148.14 3/1 L ;-)


Newton Abbot:

3.30 Nudge And Nurdle 5.2 £121.68 7/2 L ;-)


Good Luck


Todays Takings: £269.81 Less 5 % Comm. £256.31
Todays Losses: £553.05
Profit/Loss: £296.68

Bank:£13,226.98

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L -3.70 Points
Total P + L +170.05 Points

Todays Strike Rate 66.66 %
Total Strike Rate 87.19%
Wins 643 - 741 Bets
Report 1977 August 10, 2009 2:42 PM BST
Day 109

Wednesday 5th August 2009

Starting Bank: £5,000
Bank:£12,861.74
Bank High: £16,460.78


Today's Stakes Remain Unchanged:

Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £164.60
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £148.14
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £121.68
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £115.22
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £98.76
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £82.30
Prices from 8.6 to 9.5: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £65.84
Prices from 9.6 to 10.5 lay to 0.3% of bank - backer's stake £49.38
Prices from 10.6 to 11.5 lay to 0.2% of bank - backer's stake £32.92



Todays Selections:


Pontefract:


3.40 High Ambition 4.6 £121.68 10/3 W :-( (-£438.04)
4.40 Paraguay 8.2 £82.30 13/2 L ;-)
5.10 Northern Flyer 5.2 £121.68 7/2jf L ;-)


Brighton:

3.30 Art Value 7.0 £98.76 6/1 L ;-)
4.00 Burns Night 8.2 £82.30 13/2 L ;-)
5.00 Short Cut 8.4 £82.3 15/2 L ;-)


Kempton:

6.05 King Supreme 9.4 £65.84 10/1 L ;-)
6.35 The Grey One 11.5 £32.92 10/1 L ;-)


Yarmouth:

5.50 Takaamul 7.6 £82.30 5/1 W :-( (-£543.18)
6.50 Sotik Star 8.2 £82.30 9/1 L ;-)


Good Luck


Todays Takings: £648.40 Less 5 % Comm. £615.98
Todays Losses: £981.22
Profit/Loss: £365.24

Bank:£12,861.74

Level Stakes:
Todays P + L - 2.60 Points
Total P + L +167.45 Points

Todays Strike Rate 80%
Total Strike Rate 87.19%
Wins 651 - 751 Bets
Report 1977 August 10, 2009 2:46 PM BST

gleeman 10 Aug 13:14
Sorry to hear about that, Steve - must have been very scary!

A few bets on the horses seem pretty trivial when something like that happens. I hope you are OK apart from the damage to the house.



Hi Gleeman - It certainly was and it certainly does....seem trivial I mean. Yep, apart from my bank balance from all the blinkin winning/losing lays!!


geordiemidland 10 Aug 14:28
glad your back i live in the midlands if you need any help let me knowl



Geordiemidland - Cheers mate, Very kind of you :-)


Ivor 10 Aug 15:00
Should be a book ''Betfair Real Lives''. PP is now a battered husband :(


There's always one ^ :-) True though - She would rather have been kicking my head than the front door - obv. it happened when I was "Home Alone" ;-)
Report now then August 11, 2009 11:43 AM BST
are we betting today steve?
Report now then August 11, 2009 11:43 AM BST
:D
Report sanddancer August 12, 2009 1:28 PM BST
Hi Steve, haven't had a look at the thread for a while. Sorry to hear about the fire - it's just as well your Mrs came along when she did!
Looking forward to laying your selections again mate :)
Report supersavo August 12, 2009 1:34 PM BST
been away for a few days camping in rainy Cornwall, sorry to hear about the fire, relieved that no-one harmed, puts it all in perspective dont it.
Report Glasgow Brian August 13, 2009 10:40 AM BST
any today mate
:p
Report treble August 13, 2009 4:25 PM BST
He's disappeared again :(
Report 1977 August 13, 2009 4:31 PM BST
Afternoon

Sorry - haven't disappeared, just been sorting the house and haven't even "fired up" the pc in 2 days.

Will be posting as of tomorrow.

Hope everyone's doing ok.

Regards

steve
Report 1977 August 13, 2009 4:35 PM BST

sanddancer 12 Aug 14:28
Hi Steve, haven't had a look at the thread for a while. Sorry to hear about the fire - it's just as well your Mrs came along when she did!
Looking forward to laying your selections again mate :)



Hi Mate

Cheers bud - very lucky!

Will be back on track tomorrow mate :-)



supersavo 12 Aug 14:34
been away for a few days camping in rainy Cornwall, sorry to hear about the fire, relieved that no-one harmed, puts it all in perspective dont it.




Hello Mate - Weather's been 'orrible hasn't it! Certainly does put it in to perspective

Cheers Mate



Glasgow Brian 13 Aug 11:40
any today mate
:p



Hi Brian - hope things are ok with you mate - as I said I will be back up posting tomorrow.

Regards

Steve


treble0 13 Aug 17:25
He's disappeared again :(


:-)
Report Glasgow Brian August 13, 2009 4:55 PM BST
good mate
one of the better threads on here mate
keep it goin :P
Report Glasgow Brian August 13, 2009 4:55 PM BST
:p
Report oldbean August 15, 2009 10:29 AM BST
any action today steve??
Report I.quit.my.job August 15, 2009 1:59 PM BST
gosh u guys are so lazy, do your own homework!

here lay LARKHAM 4.55 Newbury

I make him 2.9, you can lay on here for 2.5...........good luck
Report alert August 15, 2009 5:40 PM BST
Good to see that you done your homework on that one lol ..bolted up !!!
Report I.quit.my.job August 15, 2009 5:43 PM BST
thats what u get for being lazy :) I didn't look at form lol, but caught the drift pre-race, thanks.........green city
Report purr August 16, 2009 12:41 PM BST
ok guys pro
seems to b out so try these
2-50 s master nimbus lay 3 pts
3.00 b ramora lay 4 pts
3.10 p rose bien lay 2 pts
3.20 s charles street lay 2 pts
3.30 b magroom lay 2 pts
3.40 p pussystreet lady lay 1 pt
3.50 s pelennor lay 3 pts
4.00 b monashee rock lay 3 pts
4.10 p kaolak lay 3 pts
4.30 b please sing lay 3 pts
4.40 p lifes challenge lay 3.pts
5.00 b triple dream lay 3 pys
5.10 p kessraa lay 2 pts
5.40 p king of swords lay 1 pt

good luck
Report kavvie August 16, 2009 12:54 PM BST
i think ill wait for him to come back..ta all the same!
Report Billy Jay August 17, 2009 9:21 AM BST
purr

It's a shame you put the word lay in.

Phenomenal record if you were bacing them +20.5 pts at SP
Report kavvie August 18, 2009 8:57 PM BST
dont leave us steve!!
Report blackout August 18, 2009 9:18 PM BST
give it to us stevie boy
Report kavvie August 21, 2009 1:26 PM BST
are we to take it that this thread is finished?
Report new born August 21, 2009 3:21 PM BST
Your man posted when he was winning well,but when the going got tough,he seems to have deserted you.
Report kavvie August 21, 2009 4:06 PM BST
i got a good few quid so i was happy enough(dont think he ever went to bad?5g to 14g in less than a year)..he had a bit of misfortune with his house sadly..hope all is well with him..
Report Glasgow Brian August 21, 2009 7:20 PM BST
tbf he was probably scared off by the negativity once the bad runs started .
Report kavvie August 27, 2009 12:43 PM BST
dont think that bothered him...he had confidencene in his own ability
Report oldbean September 23, 2009 2:41 PM BST
has the great man retired???
Report oldbean September 23, 2009 2:43 PM BST
has the great man retired???
Report Hull September 23, 2009 3:04 PM BST
retired from posting, and i don't blame him.
Report The Sports Investor September 23, 2009 4:56 PM BST
Glasgow Brian 21 Aug 20:20
tbf he was probably scared off by the negativity once the bad runs started .

this guy put his FREE selections for weeks and when he had a bad run you all have a go at him. I put up a free system on my blog and some wan~er decided to sell it on Ebay. How can someone sell a system on Ebay with no past results ?
Report kavvie September 23, 2009 8:50 PM BST
id gladly pay him for his lays. and many many more would also id say.best i ever followed.steve if your reading this!
Report Glasgow Brian September 23, 2009 10:08 PM BST
go on then sports ---what was your system then ?
Report The Sports Investor September 23, 2009 11:29 PM BST
it was a place betting system 3 from 3 since I put it on the blog, but the cheek of the basterd putting it on ebay without any results.
Report Glasgow Brian September 23, 2009 11:33 PM BST
no honour among gamblers
Report geordiemidland September 24, 2009 8:49 AM BST
shame he stopped posting top man
Report kavvie September 24, 2009 2:35 PM BST
maybe he will start up again..lots of fans on here..
Report The Sawyer April 25, 2010 11:01 PM BST
ttt
Report 1977 March 9, 2011 2:25 PM GMT
TTT
Report 1977 March 14, 2011 1:16 PM GMT
Good Afternoon

Todays Lays

Plumptom

4.00  Just Beware
4.30  Ethiopa
5.00  Midnight Oceam

Taunton

4.20  Decision
4.50  Sherriff Roscoe
5.20  Reefer Beefer

Cheers Steve
Report 1977 March 15, 2011 2:06 PM GMT
Good Afternoon

Todays Lays

Cheltenham


4.00 Maljimar
5.15 Tullimore dew

Southwell

3.45 Electioneer

Sedgfield

4.15 The Green Hat

Cheers Steve
Report DFCIRONMAN March 15, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
MAJIMAR well weighted ......will be close but competitive race ...and odds are too short BUT IT MAY WELL WIN.......GL with lay
Report DFCIRONMAN March 15, 2011 4:00 PM GMT
FREY'S WELL is my guess on winner GL
Report DFCIRONMAN March 15, 2011 4:08 PM GMT
wdCool
Report Sligo March 15, 2011 7:37 PM GMT
Welcome back Steve. Great to see you posting again. Not been round much myself on the forum but just checked in today and saw you back.

How've you been doing with the lays over last while?
Report 1977 March 16, 2011 1:25 PM GMT
Good Afternoon

Todays Lays

Hunts

1.45 Bright Sparky
3.35 Burnt Hill
4.55 Caryss Lad

Cheltenham

3.20 Big Zeb
4.00 Non Stop

Southwell

5.40  Royal Acclamation

Thanks for your posts will be in touch ASAP

Cheers Steve
Report 1977 March 17, 2011 1:19 PM GMT
Good Afternoon

Todays Lays

Cheltenham

2.05 Sivota
2.40 Kalahari King
4.40 Junior

Towcester

3.05 Lonesome Boater

Cheers Steve
Report 1977 March 18, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
GAood Afternoon

Todays Lay

Cheltenham

3.40 Kauto Star
5.15 Im singing the blues

Cheers Steve
Report 1977 March 18, 2011 5:46 PM GMT
Good Evening

Tonights Lay

Wolverhampton

7.20 Spirit of Love

Cheers Steve
Report 1977 March 19, 2011 1:35 PM GMT
Good Afternoon

Todays Lays

Lingfield

4.05 Lockantanks

Ffos Las

3.45 My Shamwari
4.55 Bellflower Boy

Newcastle

3.20 Political Paddy
5.05 Sam Patch

Uttoxeter

2.25 Basford Bob

Cheers Steve
Report 1977 March 19, 2011 5:20 PM GMT
Good Evening

Tonights Lays

W/ton

6.50 Avolino
8.20 Copperwoon

Cheers Steve
Report 1977 March 20, 2011 12:46 PM GMT
Good Afternoon

Todays Lays

Newton Abbott

2.15 Topolski
2.45 Midnight Appeal
3.45 Aldertune
4.45 Maisy Missile

Carlisle

3.00 Victor Serenade
4.00 Desert Lord
4.30 Douglas Julian

Cheers Steve
Report 1977 March 21, 2012 3:33 AM GMT
Hi All,

I followed Maria's thread with great interest and do believe she managed to hit her £100,000 target.

She had her fair share of "Knocker's" but as all threads, backing or laying, they will always be there.

I am a layer and had a crack at posting up my lays around 3 years ago, but slightly tweaked Maria's staking strategy.  I basically included a few more price bands to try and extract a few extra £'s here and there when a lay price was borderline.

I always posted the lay price I achieved and also the S.P. I included level P+L figs for comparison.

My staking was as follows:

Prices below 3.5: lay to 1% of bank - backer's stake £
Prices from 3.6 to 4.5 lay to 0.9% of bank - backer's stake £
Prices from 4.6 to 5.5 lay to 0.8% of bank - backer's stake £
Prices from 5.6 to 6.5 lay to 0.7% of bank - backer's stake £
Prices from 6.6 to 7.5: lay to 0.6% of bank - backer's stake £
Prices from 7.6 to 8.5 lay to 0.5% of bank - backer's stake £
Prices from 8.6 to 9.5: lay to 0.4% of bank - backer's stake £
Prices from 9.6 to 10.5 lay to 0.3% of bank - backer's stake £
Prices from 10.6 to 11.5 lay to 0.2% of bank - backer's stake £

If interested, here is the link to the thread

http://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/23539222/todays-lays?pg=57.

I am up for another challenge (as I have more time on my hands now that my oldest little girl is now at school FT!!)

I will expect an uphill struggle from day 1, a very bad start on day 1 and plenty of knockers.....from day 1.

If anyone is still using MSP - I hope my price bands will turn an extra profit if used.

I think I will perhaps give my old thread a resurrection rather than starting anew...Obv with a new starting bank.

Regards

Steve
Report Paulreedsmith February 25, 2013 9:17 PM GMT
Hi steve,
Had a quick look back through your posts and found them quite interesting. The staking plan aside, i'm more interested in how you actually choose your lays. Any insight would be appreciated.
Alan
Report Tiger Tiger April 9, 2022 6:46 PM BST
A thread about Marias Laying strategy, or at least her mathematical approach.
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