Koo's Comeback Thread

TTT for Avocado

thanks mate

was koo laying horses then? he didnt do football at all?

This thread was mainly HORSERACING......and he backed and layed IR mainly....

Nice to see that the original "marksman" still has his posts on page 1 of this thread, despite being banned.  Those were the days!

did koo make money from the 10k bank? This thread is to long to read

He got to over £600,000 over just over 6 months from memory.......

did he lose it all?

No, but many more days like this and i might reconsider 


Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 16 of 16 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Thurl 25th Nov : 2m Mdn Hrd     25-Nov-10 14:40     25-Nov-10 14:51    97.27
Horse Racing / Uttox 25th Nov : 2m6f Hcap Hrd     25-Nov-10 14:35     25-Nov-10 14:43    570.73
Horse Racing / Meydan (UAE) 25th Nov : 1m Hcap PA     25-Nov-10 14:25     25-Nov-10 14:36    850.46
Horse Racing / Taun 25th Nov : 2m3f Hcap Hrd     25-Nov-10 14:20     25-Nov-10 14:28    1,251.06
Horse Racing / Newb 25th Nov : 2m6f Hcap Chs     25-Nov-10 14:10     25-Nov-10 14:17    -4,076.79
Horse Racing / Uttox 25th Nov : 2m Hcap Hrd     25-Nov-10 14:00     25-Nov-10 14:06    7,867.19
Horse Racing / Taun 25th Nov : 2m Nov Chs     25-Nov-10 13:45     25-Nov-10 13:51    -2,708.56
Horse Racing / Newb 25th Nov : 2m1f Nov Chs     25-Nov-10 13:35     25-Nov-10 13:42    409.61
Horse Racing / Uttox 25th Nov : To Be Placed     25-Nov-10 13:25     25-Nov-10 13:35    -530.57
Horse Racing / Uttox 25th Nov : 3m Nov Hrd     25-Nov-10 13:25     25-Nov-10 13:34    -2,361.38
Horse Racing / Taun 25th Nov : 2m3f Nov Hrd     25-Nov-10 13:10     25-Nov-10 13:19    -14,600.05
Horse Racing / Newb 25th Nov : 2m5f Nov Hrd     25-Nov-10 13:00     25-Nov-10 13:09    1,033.97
Horse Racing / Uttox 25th Nov : 2m6f Beg Chs     25-Nov-10 12:50     25-Nov-10 12:58    783.67
Horse Racing / Taun 25th Nov : 2m1f Sell Hrd     25-Nov-10 12:40     25-Nov-10 12:46    344.88
Horse Racing / Newb 25th Nov : 2m Hcap Hrd     25-Nov-10 12:30     25-Nov-10 12:36    71.01
Horse Racing / Uttox 25th Nov : 2m Nov Hrd     25-Nov-10 12:20     25-Nov-10 12:28    2,834.17
Profit and Loss is shown net of commission.
All times are UKT    
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Horse Racing: -£8,163.33  Total P&L:  -£8,163.33

you wouldnt want to see the Tell Masini bet freddie - thats a NAP

poor horse as well.   thats hit me harder than the usually ones that pay the ultimate price.   Never nice seein any get killed but to see such a good horse die there only through over jumping really makes you feel gutted

Koo, how does it feel being a millionaire? Let me know I can only imagine losing 200k in 3 months and still be able to get up in the morning.

i feel no different.  Although i dont have any money troubles that previously could stress anyone out when potless.   But theres no change of feeling every morning from when i was playing in my foirst few years.   Its wake up looking forward to playing on here so i can pit my wits against everyone else and try and come out on top.
then go hiome, and basically just look forward to tomorrow to do it all again

Ok, well I'm new and starting with next to nothing, but if I've learned anything recently it's that you need a substantial amount to begin to have any hope of being sufficiently successful, you probably began with large amounts giving yourself that advantage, if ever there was a case for speculating to accumulate, than it's right here on Betfair!
I'm enjoying it too even though we're in different leagues, kills time whilst my broken foot heals, and then I can go back to the real working world where I know I can make money[:)]

You don't need to start with a substantial amount, what makes you think that? Start small and if you're any good it soon mounts up, start with a large amount and your long odds on to end up with a very small amount, if anything at all!

you dont need a big bank roll. Thats a myth really.  I started with next to nothing but had no outgoings so only needed to withdraw my weekly berr money and could leave the remaining funds in here to grow.

Luckily i lived with my dad for a few years whilst my bank roll got bigger and bigger and he paid for things like sky, the internet, and food to feed my bug fat appitite.   So basically i had no pressure on myself to make anything substantial quickly.   I had a 5 years plan for myself but it thankfuilly snowballed alot more quickly than that.


Anyways home tome now.   A losing day but one i can love wioth

Koo.... Date Joined: 07 Nov 07
25 Nov 10 14:58

Horse Racing / Taun 25th Nov : 2m3f Nov Hrd     25-Nov-10 13:10     25-Nov-10 13:19    -14,600.05

I know it's all relative but one of those mid afternoon, and I would be pretty bad company for a few days!

Nice win at Southwell the other day m8, saved me a good few kwid, I layed the non staying Nadeen pre race! BPB is my sort of horse.

Don't you think that you have got away lightly (by not having to pay Premium Charge), when there are some of us, who can hardly scratch a living on here, paying it?

Koo, very interesting reply, but maybe than if you and Buzzer are saying you don't need to begin with a large bank than I guess it's all about finding your niche market, so to speak.

It must have taken absolutely ages to find this thread with a 6 month gap.
You should post that losing week this summer Koo when you dropped either a 100 or 200K, now that takes some stomaching imo!

beta phorum now innit stewarts it's like the answer to everything innit tho?

koo you should try football betting

Luckily i lived with my dad for a few years whilst my bank roll got bigger and bigger and he paid for things like sky, the internet, and food to feed my bug fat appitite.   So basically i had no pressure on myself to make anything substantial quickly.   I had a 5 years plan for myself but it thankfuilly snowballed alot more quickly than that.

enough said....a fat balding bloke who still lives with his dad, sitting at his computer all day, in his y-fronts. ;)

Gis an update Koo

he is happy as larry today

for old time sakes

Horse Racing: £33,285.29  Total P&L:  £33,285.29

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 15 of 15 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Muss 16th Feb : 2m Hcap Hrd     16-Feb-11 15:50     16-Feb-11 15:58    8,398.19
Horse Racing / Muss 16th Feb : 2m Hcap Hrd     16-Feb-11 15:20     16-Feb-11 15:26    -500.00
Horse Racing / Sthl 15th Feb : 2m Hcap     15-Feb-11 15:50     15-Feb-11 15:55    -2,271.75
Horse Racing / Newc 15th Feb : 2m Hcap Hrd     15-Feb-11 15:40     15-Feb-11 15:47    12,533.62
Horse Racing / Sthl 15th Feb : 1m Hcap     15-Feb-11 15:20     15-Feb-11 15:24    -1,367.99
Horse Racing / Newc 15th Feb : 2m4f Hcap Chs     15-Feb-11 15:10     15-Feb-11 15:19    1,359.04
Horse Racing / Folk 15th Feb : 2m5f Beg Chs     15-Feb-11 15:00     15-Feb-11 15:10    -4,386.34
Horse Racing / Sthl 15th Feb : 7f Sell Stks     15-Feb-11 14:50     15-Feb-11 14:55    1,848.24
Horse Racing / Newc 15th Feb : 2m6f Mdn Hrd     15-Feb-11 14:40     15-Feb-11 14:48    194.28
Horse Racing / Folk 15th Feb : 3m1f Hcap Chs     15-Feb-11 14:30     15-Feb-11 14:41    2,826.29
Horse Racing / Sthl 15th Feb : 1m Mdn Stks     15-Feb-11 14:20     15-Feb-11 14:26    -2,075.01
Horse Racing / Newc 15th Feb : 2m Hcap Chs     15-Feb-11 14:10     15-Feb-11 14:17    19.60
Horse Racing / Folk 15th Feb : 2m1f Hcap Hrd     15-Feb-11 14:00     15-Feb-11 14:06    16,707.57
Horse Racing / Sthl 15th Feb : 6f Hcap     15-Feb-11 13:50     15-Feb-11 13:57    -1,051.45
Horse Racing / Newc 15th Feb : 2m Mdn Hrd     15-Feb-11 13:40     15-Feb-11 13:47    1,051.00



a couple of days good punting and a nice day out at Musselburgh today.   Just feel im getting better with my punting and hopefully should be able to get many more good days in the futire.   Its not rocket science as they say  !!!

nice figures Koo..

Dontpaytheferryman did great today and a great ride by Gallagher, congrats [;)]

koo do u do football betting?

no, i have no edge so its a pointless betting medium for me

how do u make all this money on horses then?

he has an edge on horses i guess

yeah whatever that means

either that or he's a bullsh1tter

I imagine Koo lives and breathes horses with a passion, and reads them like the back of his hand, but I would have thought a select few others do too, and of course many thousands of up and coming triers thrown into the mix make it ever more competitive.

i can't see how anyone makes a long term profit from betting on horses

Me neither, but a select few do if they have fast pictures and know the animals they're looking at inside out, ears pricked, whips up, and all that stuff lol.

Then there's the bot merchants who know nothing about the animals but everything about the bettors reactions.

Not forgetting the form studiers, how they make it pay is a total mystery to me.

it's all fixed i think

seeing as racing exists solely for bettin it's most likely corrupt

There are people who make living out of betting and I dare to say that Koo possibly is not even in the top 10 (i may be wrong).

Its not just turning telly on and having a bet.  These pro punters with a slight exaggeration dedicate their lives to the game, they live and breath racing.  And its pretty time confusing.  They are learning about horses all the time, they know horses forms, they can read whats happening throughout the race, they know every track in and out, not forgetting jockeys and trainers, they can do their maths pretty quick and are rather speedy with their betting.  And yes fast pictures help.

If you combine all this together, not many people would have the will power/dedication to last longer than a week in my opinion.

Its like ski jumping or ice skating.  Anyone can try but only those few chosen ones can actually make living out of it.  Just because someone thinks he should be able to succeed doesn't mean he will.

Disgruntled girlfriend ^^^^ 

hes just had a winner

updates Koo?

great guy is koo

i reckon koo should do a daily blog again from the new year

does a daily won on twitter....

Wow, what a blast from the past this thread is, one of the first threads I ever posted on.


mesmerised 25 Nov 10 16:14 Joined: 10 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 5,975 | Blogger: mesmerised's blog
Ok, well I'm new and starting with next to nothing, but if I've learned anything recently it's that you need a substantial amount to begin to have any hope of being sufficiently successful,



Oh the innocence of naivety, so much has changed

comebackkooandbringthegang

fecking spacebar

thanks delta

was a brilliant thread from start to finish

Its quite funny this got bumped back to the top, as lately i've not been on a great run and decided to start re reading the first 6 months of the thread where i had unprecedented success.   Was eye opening to see how my methods had changed and basically made me think i was better off going back to the things that was making me money on this thread.

We all have to sit back and take stock with this game koo.

Did anyone ever discover who the imposter Koo... was? Or was Koo... the real Koo and Koo.... was the imposter?

Think all the bets are by koo...

What exactly did happen to you koo, i gathered you started this thread and were quite successful with your punting but i also read a couple of extracts in the last could pages and see maybe you made massive losses?

STS looks like a lot of his time is taken up with the racing club looks a good website.

Still going, the games a mind**** at times.  But we keep going.   Couldnt wait to tell everyone i was on 9 from 9 winning months this year, first time id ever got past march 3/3.  However the last 2 months have wiped probably 4-5 months profits, whilst doing all the same stuff as i've always done.

Still, be playing tomorrow trying to get back in a better frame of mind and a few quid in the wallet.

I know why the last two months have messed ya up....

Had a terrible last 3 months to last year as well which made me start thinking of selling half the bloodstock.  So the arrival of the little un shouldnt be considered a variable.  Yesterdays biggest bet was twisters that broke its leg and the 2nd biggest was pipes than fell 2 out when it was looking the winner.   Just swings and roudabouts this game.   Those 2 bad beats the day before that even.


Anyways to cheer everyone up.  I won today, so im off for something else out of the fridge :)

Quite possibly one of the most interesting and informative threads on the entire forum .... thank you Koo.

god bless koo and the gang

Cracking thread.

Well done Koo, great stuff.

tar

seriously koo, theres a book in there somewhere, once you throw in anectdotes of your racing club too..ive read it 3 times now ffs and it never gets boring

a book........ there's a film in it, now lets see who can play who


Timothy Spall - koo ....

Michelle Pfeiffer - zoozee

Prince George - baby koo

Ray Winston - Brian Ellison

Sue Johnston - Mrs Ellison

Nicholas Lyndhurst - markyboy

Clare Balding - Lorraine Ellison


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PMSL AT DELTA ray winston = brian ellison

Superb thread.... Gripping

Decent bloke Koo is. Wishing you the best of luck.

7 years on and that might have been about my best ever year on here.  Certainly for where i was at the time.  I should probably read it all again and take on board some of my own advice and mix it with what I've hopefully learnt since.  Cant believe its been that long, even Saptapadi only took 5 years to win another race

you still got that cardi with the holes in it?

Sadly had to get rid of it, the bright yellow one is still going strong tho

What is going on here please?

hi Koo
remember The Magician, me you and 4 others did a comp to see who could work with him and I won it, we put a grand in......
does it ring any bells, message me please I have got something you might be able to help me with / interested in, the same system ( only better ) I was using with the Magician proofed making 14% / 15% per day yield,doing roughly the same as I did with The Magician I'm needing someone with some VBA / Excel skills to fix a few tiny bugs with and some cash to invest
cheers dave (Micky Biggs )

must be at Elli's

Koo's a legend.

Dont know the bloke from Adam but was good enough to reply to an enquiry about Palomar who was due to run in the 2010 Ces. Appeared to have had a new lease of life after dossing up over hurdles at market rasp due to a change of bridle/tack. Backed it e/w at all odds from 50's to 33's, didnt get the clearest of runs but hit 5th place. Top bloke.

Whats the plan with Balty Boys btw? QEll or the Balmoral? Nice dilemma to have - tough as nails that boy.

if you back dogs mate 901 yarmouth no buts 3-1 betfred 6-4 chance get on

Not as a rule blackra but now you have my attention!

Used to spend saturday mornings backing hackney dogs many moons ago - traps 1&6 in a r/f in the 11.59. Jesus, going back some now.

is this a tip or do you know something??

Might throw a few quid on for a bit of mid-week fun.

Cheers

Unlucky there blackra. Didnt get involved in the end but looks like the post came too soon.

One to follow. Not that I do follow, if you follow..

ttt

one of the great betfair stories

I think you've brought this up enough times 11kv!

I'm a trier

Any chance Koo... can give us an update of how he fares nowadays?

Struggling badly for the last 2 months.   In the same kind of rut i was when when starting this thread, so I thought id come back and read a few pages.   

Some quotes resonate strongly now as they did at the time.   the less I seem to try the easier it is.   Its self induced pressure because you know you have the skill set to avoid the bad runs and you always let yourself down in the same fashion.

Still, studied the redcar card whilst reading a few pages.   Hoping ive a few bets there, which i might add on here later after doing the school run.

Hope your keeping well

Thanks Koo...
If you are here in time, do you happen to know any reason for Gilmers awful run last week, think you have 1 or 2 with her?

It bolted to post and shouldnt have ran really.  He's too much of a thinker to predict but if they persevere then like alot of his type, they eventually consent and fall in one day.  Not much help for todays run mind you

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i can't see how anyone makes a long term profit from betting on horses
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Me neither, but a select few do if they have fast pictures and know the animals they're looking at inside out, ears pricked, whips up, and all that stuff lol.

Then there's the bot merchants who know nothing about the animals but everything about the bettors reactions.

Not forgetting the form studiers, how they make it pay is a total mystery to me.
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Avocado17 Feb 11 02:09Joined: 06 May 10 | Topic/replies: 7,026 | Blogger: Avocado's blog
it's all fixed i think

Timeless seems like yesterday . 

It cannot be done sadly.

hi koo i think i posted once on this thread and admired how you do it.but i think to ease all the pressure and begin to really enjoy the fun of it on a daily bases you should go back  to  not start of this thread but start of time.say for talking sake you have 200 thousand betting bank.on a daily bases start with 1% of total bank which would be 2k and enjoy doing exsactly what you do in smaller terms  and take all the stress out it betting in hundreds that way your having total fun hobby yet if you double that 2k 4 times of the 7 days you would be up 2k a week every week but having relaxed funthat would be 100k a year and no pressure to you then next year wityh profit maybe you could up it to 2 and half k or 3k all in smaller more workable time for your health and time to really enjoy your snooker pool darts football watching.one other thing i think you should not have done and dont feel bad me saying it
  you should have not started talkin about dinners and food as thats in my opinion you talking about some thing negative that bothers you deep down and all guys egging you on about it dosnt help. all this is for your own health care koo.it was great read i loved it but what ever you do enjoy it in controlled relaxed manner you have done the hard work learning it and winning slow down now.