samirs last go

love to gamble = nasri

DO NOT DO IT!

Don't say you haven't been warned!

and what wud 1% daily profit be over the year?

How many times are you going to ask this?

dont remember asking about 1%

nasri 31 Dec 00:18


how many bets @ 1.01 would it take from 250 to 1000. all in every time

Pretty close imo

ok if ur the smart @rse round here, cud u just give me the answer please??????

I bumped the thread where you asked, not only is the answer in there but so is the way to work it out so you could maybe write it down or learn it this time.

ok cheers mate

In all seriousness a) Don't do this without better reasons than just picking prices. b) When you ignore me (fair enough) and do it anyway, good luck. Would be fun to see someone win one of these, but the odds are against you.

ok lori, well im going to give it a blast.

i was really looking for day 1 - day 365 and each days profit. if any1 has the formula and can post it that wud be great

And Nasri think this is going to be a successful system? ROFL :D

does any1 have the spreadsheet with the formula for 1% daily profit over the year starting with 1k?

the fact you cant be fecked to do it yourself strikes me as indicative of how you approach gambling, if not life itself. HTH

im not lazy, not knowing how to put the correct formula into a spreadsheet has nothing to do with betting. seems these forums r still the same, every1 just out to critisize.

Bet No £1,000
1 £1,009.500
2 £1,019.090
3 £1,028.772
4 £1,038.545
5 £1,048.411
6 £1,058.371
7 £1,068.426
8 £1,078.576
9 £1,088.822
10 £1,099.166
11 £1,109.608
12 £1,120.149
13 £1,130.791
14 £1,141.533
15 £1,152.378
16 £1,163.325
17 £1,174.377
18 £1,185.533
19 £1,196.796
20 £1,208.166
21 £1,219.643
22 £1,231.230
23 £1,242.926
24 £1,254.734
25 £1,266.654
26 £1,278.687
27 £1,290.835
28 £1,303.098
29 £1,315.477
30 £1,327.974
31 £1,340.590
32 £1,353.326
33 £1,366.182
34 £1,379.161
35 £1,392.263
36 £1,405.490
37 £1,418.842
38 £1,432.321
39 £1,445.928
40 £1,459.664
41 £1,473.531
42 £1,487.529
43 £1,501.661
44 £1,515.927
45 £1,530.328
46 £1,544.866
47 £1,559.542
48 £1,574.358
49 £1,589.314
50 £1,604.413
51 £1,619.655
52 £1,635.042
53 £1,650.575
54 £1,666.255
55 £1,682.084
56 £1,698.064
57 £1,714.196
58 £1,730.481
59 £1,746.920
60 £1,763.516
61 £1,780.269
62 £1,797.182
63 £1,814.255
64 £1,831.491
65 £1,848.890
66 £1,866.454
67 £1,884.186
68 £1,902.085
69 £1,920.155
70 £1,938.397
71 £1,956.811
72 £1,975.401
73 £1,994.167
74 £2,013.112
75 £2,032.236
76 £2,051.543
77 £2,071.032
78 £2,090.707
79 £2,110.569
80 £2,130.619
81 £2,150.860
82 £2,171.293
83 £2,191.921
84 £2,212.744
85 £2,233.765
86 £2,254.986
87 £2,276.408
88 £2,298.034
89 £2,319.865
90 £2,341.904
91 £2,364.152
92 £2,386.612
93 £2,409.284
94 £2,432.173
95 £2,455.278
96 £2,478.603
97 £2,502.150
98 £2,525.921
99 £2,549.917
100 £2,574.141
101 £2,598.595
102 £2,623.282
103 £2,648.203
104 £2,673.361
105 £2,698.758
106 £2,724.396
107 £2,750.278
108 £2,776.406
109 £2,802.781
110 £2,829.408
111 £2,856.287
112 £2,883.422
113 £2,910.815
114 £2,938.467
115 £2,966.383
116 £2,994.563
117 £3,023.012
118 £3,051.730
119 £3,080.722
120 £3,109.989
121 £3,139.533
122 £3,169.359
123 £3,199.468
124 £3,229.863
125 £3,260.547
126 £3,291.522
127 £3,322.791
128 £3,354.358
129 £3,386.224
130 £3,418.393
131 £3,450.868
132 £3,483.651
133 £3,516.746
134 £3,550.155
135 £3,583.882
136 £3,617.928
137 £3,652.299
138 £3,686.996
139 £3,722.022
140 £3,757.381
141 £3,793.076
142 £3,829.111
143 £3,865.487
144 £3,902.209
145 £3,939.280
146 £3,976.703
147 £4,014.482
148 £4,052.620
149 £4,091.120
150 £4,129.985
151 £4,169.220
152 £4,208.828
153 £4,248.811
154 £4,289.175
155 £4,329.922
156 £4,371.057
157 £4,412.582
158 £4,454.501
159 £4,496.819
160 £4,539.539
161 £4,582.664
162 £4,626.200
163 £4,670.149
164 £4,714.515
165 £4,759.303
166 £4,804.516
167 £4,850.159
168 £4,896.236
169 £4,942.750
170 £4,989.706
171 £5,037.108
172 £5,084.961
173 £5,133.268
174 £5,182.034
175 £5,231.263
176 £5,280.960
177 £5,331.129
178 £5,381.775
179 £5,432.902
180 £5,484.515
181 £5,536.617
182 £5,589.215
183 £5,642.313
184 £5,695.915
185 £5,750.026
186 £5,804.651
187 £5,859.795
188 £5,915.463
189 £5,971.660
190 £6,028.391
191 £6,085.661
192 £6,143.475
193 £6,201.838
194 £6,260.755
195 £6,320.232
196 £6,380.274
197 £6,440.887
198 £6,502.076
199 £6,563.845
200 £6,626.202

200 £6,626.202
201 £6,689.151
202 £6,752.698
203 £6,816.848
204 £6,881.608
205 £6,946.984
206 £7,012.980
207 £7,079.603
208 £7,146.859
209 £7,214.755
210 £7,283.295
211 £7,352.486
212 £7,422.335
213 £7,492.847
214 £7,564.029
215 £7,635.887
216 £7,708.428
217 £7,781.658
218 £7,855.584
219 £7,930.212
220 £8,005.549
221 £8,081.602
222 £8,158.377
223 £8,235.882
224 £8,314.122
225 £8,393.107
226 £8,472.841
227 £8,553.333
228 £8,634.590
229 £8,716.618
230 £8,799.426
231 £8,883.021
232 £8,967.409
233 £9,052.600
234 £9,138.600
235 £9,225.416
236 £9,313.058
237 £9,401.532
238 £9,490.846
239 £9,581.009
240 £9,672.029
241 £9,763.913
242 £9,856.670
243 £9,950.309
244 £10,044.837
245 £10,140.263
246 £10,236.595
247 £10,333.843
248 £10,432.014
249 £10,531.118
250 £10,631.164
251 £10,732.160
252 £10,834.116
253 £10,937.040
254 £11,040.942
255 £11,145.831
256 £11,251.716
257 £11,358.607
258 £11,466.514
259 £11,575.446
260 £11,685.413
261 £11,796.424
262 £11,908.490
263 £12,021.621
264 £12,135.826
265 £12,251.116
266 £12,367.502
267 £12,484.993
268 £12,603.601
269 £12,723.335
270 £12,844.207
271 £12,966.227
272 £13,089.406
273 £13,213.755
274 £13,339.286
275 £13,466.009
276 £13,593.936
277 £13,723.079
278 £13,853.448
279 £13,985.056
280 £14,117.914
281 £14,252.034
282 £14,387.428
283 £14,524.109
284 £14,662.088
285 £14,801.377
286 £14,941.991
287 £15,083.939
288 £15,227.237
289 £15,371.896
290 £15,517.929
291 £15,665.349
292 £15,814.170
293 £15,964.404
294 £16,116.066
295 £16,269.169
296 £16,423.726
297 £16,579.751
298 £16,737.259
299 £16,896.263
300 £17,056.777
301 £17,218.817
302 £17,382.396
303 £17,547.528
304 £17,714.230
305 £17,882.515
306 £18,052.399
307 £18,223.897
308 £18,397.024
309 £18,571.796
310 £18,748.228
311 £18,926.336
312 £19,106.136
313 £19,287.644
314 £19,470.877
315 £19,655.850
316 £19,842.581
317 £20,031.085
318 £20,221.381
319 £20,413.484
320 £20,607.412
321 £20,803.182
322 £21,000.812
323 £21,200.320
324 £21,401.723
325 £21,605.040
326 £21,810.287
327 £22,017.485
328 £22,226.651
329 £22,437.804
330 £22,650.964
331 £22,866.148
332 £23,083.376
333 £23,302.668
334 £23,524.044
335 £23,747.522
336 £23,973.123
337 £24,200.868
338 £24,430.776
339 £24,662.869
340 £24,897.166
341 £25,133.689
342 £25,372.459
343 £25,613.497
344 £25,856.826
345 £26,102.466
346 £26,350.439
347 £26,600.768
348 £26,853.475
349 £27,108.583
350 £27,366.115
351 £27,626.093
352 £27,888.541
353 £28,153.482
354 £28,420.940
355 £28,690.939
356 £28,963.503
357 £29,238.656
358 £29,516.424
359 £29,796.830
360 £30,079.899
361 £30,365.659
362 £30,654.132
363 £30,945.347
364 £31,239.327
365 £31,536.101

easily achievable imo!! :-)

thanks mate.

£1000 deposited

LAY stagecoach emerald £3 @ 90

18:05 Wolv

bet 1 LAY stagecoach emerald £3 @ 90 18:05 wolv WON bank = £1002.88

I'll give you a clue as to your future for free.

You will win a fair number of these bets in a row.

You will believe your target is achievable and that you have the makings of a viable system.

You will start selecting more and more of these random 90/1 - 100/1 shots that simply *can't win* on no sound basis other than they satisfy your price.

Eventually one of them will win and you will be off to ponder what wen't wrong, forumites will come along if your lucky to dance on your grave and tell you "they told you so".

I wish you luck but the stats are against you, jimbobjones had a thread similar to this and he did much the same, in many cases some of his 1.01 shots might have been 'value'.

bet 2 LAY oceans minstrel meydan 18:45 £2 @ 160

fair enough with the advice. but i dont understand y people keep pointing out that a big price could win. its obvious thats y its called a bet.

most sense ive seen nat post in about a year !

Its only a matter of 'when' the big priced winner comes in as far as your system is concerned and it *will* happen, do you think the people putting up the 160/1 for you to lay are all complete mugs?.

bet 1 LAY stagecoach emerald £3 @ 90 18:05 wolv WON bank = £1002.88
bet 2 LAY oceans minstrel £2 @ 160 18:45 meydan WON bank = £1004.80

sure u back the ones i lay if ur that convinced il get beat

nasri, it may take a while for you to lose your first bet, but when you've got 300 winners in a row we'll debate your 'system' a little more ;-). I wished you gl btw.

ok mate talk to u then lol.

ps. i never once mentioned this system cant be beaten

bet 3 LAY nesno £3 @ 75 19:35 wolv

bet 1 LAY stagecoach emerald £3 @ 90 18:05 wolv WON bank = £1002.88
bet 2 LAY oceans minstrel £2 @ 160 18:45 meydan WON bank = £1004.80
bet 3 LAY nesno £3 @ 75 19:35 wolv WON bank = £1007.68

bet 1 LAY stagecoach emerald £3 @ 90 18:05 wolv WON bank = £1002.88
bet 2 LAY oceans minstrel £2 @ 160 18:45 meydan WON bank = £1004.80
bet 3 LAY nesno £3 @ 75 19:35 wolv WON bank = £1007.68
bet 4 LAY wolves v man u 2-0 £5 @ 95 ???
bet 5 LAY arsenal v burnley 0-1 £3 @ 75 ???

bet 6 west ham v bolton 0-3 £2 @ 120 ???

was it placed?thats the qquestion

Must be on the edge of your seat Nasri,0-2 in the West Ham game.

was never in douby real deal lol.

ps. danny do u think i just post these for a laugh and i dont actually place the bets?

bet 7 LAY everton v hull 0-2 £5 @ 85 ???
bet 8 LAY chelsea v stoke 0-2 £3 @ 120 ???

will update balance later in a rush as have to go to work

Gl nasri.

However even this early on bet 6 illustrates exactly what you've been warned about.

At 0-2 you had a very near miss for 0-3, at the time your lay of 0-3 at 120/1 was probably trading nearer 10/1. Eventually one of these is going to hit.....its just a matter of time.

bet 1 LAY stagecoach emerald £3 @ 90 18:05 wolv WON bank = £1002.88
bet 2 LAY oceans minstrel £2 @ 160 18:45 meydan WON bank = £1004.80
bet 3 LAY nesno £3 @ 75 19:35 wolv WON bank = £1007.68
bet 4 LAY west ham v bolton 0-3 £2 @ 120 WON bank = 1009.60
bet 5 LAY arsenal v burnley 0-1 £3 @ 75 WON bank = 1012.48
bet 6 LAY wolves v man u 2-0 £5 @ 95 WON bank = £1017.28
bet 7 LAY everton v hull 0-2 £5 @ 85 WON bank = £1022.08
bet 8 LAY chelsea v stoke 0-2 £3 @ 120 WON bank = 1024.96

bet 9 LAY inter v genoa 1-3 £5 @ 140 ???

i kno theres not many people have faith in this challenge, but if it were u wud u continue doing what im doing or try and win £10+ per bet rather that 2-3 bets to make £10?

If it was my last shot...... and I was a mug (no offense but you seem to be one)..... I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory going for a big win, than being wiped out on my 42nd 1.01 shot.

I wouldn't like to die such a dull death.

I think the people who don't have any faith in your challenge have probably at one point in time tried much the same thing as you ;-).

One of my early systems involved laying long shot horses, in the range (40-50/1) using a set of selection criteria, after something like 80 small wins in a row I was sat on a tidy profit, eventually a 60/1 shot conspired to win in a US race & a few days later a 40/1 shot landed, without some kind of proven 'edge' over time, this will be the fate of your system.

The problem is as a punter, the feeling of winning many times is addictive, when you pay your first 120/1 shot lay you'll discover this ;-).

so whats the advice nathan? shud i just go for the £10 bets then?

nasri.

My advice, for what its worth.

i). Focus on the one or two areas ONLY that you have good knowledge of, (for me those are horse racing and football, might well be the same for you). No looking for bets at 2am when theres nothing else to do.

ii). Develop for yourself a system, try to think of angle(s) that others may have overlooked, watch the market reactions to various events without having money at stake. 1 other thing I found really useful was to look back through my biggest losing bets, hint: some of the worst ones were short priced 'certainties', try to resist the urge to make those kind of bets again and again ;-).

iii). Stake much smaller than you are now, the losses won't be so hard to take and you'll have a bank left at the end of it, once you've got a reasonable sample size you'll have an idea whether your edge is worthwhile.

iv). Don't set 'targets' like '£10 every day' or '1% of bank', (for some this works but I figure they mean long term rather than each day), I've generally found it simply leads to an involuntary 'must recover losses' reflex after a loser. After paying a losing bet I like to honestly be able to say to myself "I'd make that bet again given the same circumstances".

v). Betfair Commission is not to be underestimated in its ability to kill an otherwise profitable system.

All the above lessons I learned the hard way, by PAYING for them ;-). Gl.

bet 1 LAY stagecoach emerald £3 @ 90 18:05 wolv WON bank = £1002.88
bet 2 LAY oceans minstrel £2 @ 160 18:45 meydan WON bank = £1004.80
bet 3 LAY nesno £3 @ 75 19:35 wolv WON bank = £1007.68
bet 4 LAY west ham v bolton 0-3 £2 @ 120 WON bank = 1009.60
bet 5 LAY arsenal v burnley 0-1 £3 @ 75 WON bank = 1012.48
bet 6 LAY wolves v man u 2-0 £5 @ 95 WON bank = £1017.28
bet 7 LAY everton v hull 0-2 £5 @ 85 WON bank = £1022.08
bet 8 LAY chelsea v stoke 0-2 £3 @ 120 WON bank = 1024.96
bet 9 LAY inter v genoa 1-3 £5 @ 140 WON bank = £1029.76

thanks for advice nathan. i have learnt a few lessons on betfair like every1 else, i just thought sumthing like this was worth giving a go.

bet 10 LAY bon spiel(strat 14:00) £3 @ 75 ???

bet 11 LAY highland cadett (ling 14:10) £2 @ 280

bet 12 LAY tin pot man ffosl 14:20 £4 @ 110 ???

bet 10 LAY bon spiel(strat 14:00) £3 @ 75 WON bank = £1032.64
bet 11 LAY highland cadett (ling 14:10) £2 @ 280 WON bank = £1034.56
bet 12 LAY tin pot man (ffosl 14:20) £4 @ 110 WON bank = £1038.40

my problem with these v short odds bets is its very hard to see if you are picking well or just being lucky. if you back at around evens picture is a lot clearer.