Betfair systems that worked but faded away:

Laying the lumpy draw backer on rugby.

API platform works quite well :)

Unionjack's system of laying Alan Keyte's daily nap with ladder recovery.

Be interested to here about that rugby lead system leading in to a new season...anyone know the in's and out's??

The only properly successful long term thread on here i've seen is FatalStatistics.

Putting up (bad value) prices the night before a football game and getting matched, then trading out the next day.

Doesn't work well anymore due to bots jumping in front.

Footsoldiers laying handicap place favs using martingale staking


I don't know anything about horse racing, but it's safe to say that this isn't "a profitable system".

recent events concerning said character would seem to back up your negativity tbh

backing the bottom of the field, selections often well over true odds, just have to stick some very long losing runs

backing the bottom of the field, selections often well over true odds, just have to stick some very long losing runs

1). Backing Spotlight selections race by race using Martingale and stopping at a winner.
2). Laying Spotlight selections for a fixed amount per race.

Laying 0-0's

Backing 0-0's

Laying Alan Keytes (?)

laying the st.....oh hang on thats still foolproof ;)

Any so called system that requires a loss recovery staking plan is dooomed to failure. Any system worth its salt shoud be able to stand on its own merits. Another term for loss recovery staking plan is....chasing your losses , which we all know doesn't work long term.

There are systemz out there that can provide small profits long term, Markets on betfair are so competitive with the ammount of layers forming markets with overrounds barely above 100% and betting is where the true opportunties arise.

Nova Sicko 01 Mar 04:09


backing the bottom of the field, selections often well over true odds, just have to stick some very long losing runs


The above seems to me to be the pure value way to do it, I wouldn't mind the long losing runs. But I cannot make my mind up about the triggering criteria and whether it should be level steaks or dutching or something else.

I would be interested in any input that may be relevant.

alan keyte on an 8 winning streak...great sytem if u wanna go bust !!!!

lays to richs by always winning didn,t tell us the system just the lays didwell then stopped now some1 doing it on the horse racing forum

The Investor 28 Feb 20:53


Putting up (bad value) prices the night before a football game and getting matched, then trading out the next day.

Doesn't work well anymore due to bots jumping in front.






Haha, that's what I did for a while. Leave a bet up over night in a quiet market and the number of times I logged in in the morning thinking "nah, nobody would be that stupid" and see that someone had matched it.
Used to work well in the HT Score market. 2-2 always seemed to be 200 on the lay side, if you put in a back for 2 quid or more just under his odds he'd move his down but if you put in a back at 1.99 he wouldn't so if anyone was silly enough to lay at 200 you'd get 1.99 at 190.

Got bored of that pretty quickly for obvious reasons.

The Rugby League "system" was as stated above, back both teams to score a try in the 1st scoring play market. It was posted up by a complete chancer who eventually got banned for trying to sell a tipping service.

Rocket to the FACE,

Yes that was a big problem for me too. The larger your bets are, the more likely it is that someone will jump in front (bot or otherwise).

I do remember a funny incident where a bot would automatically jump in front whatever the odds were. I drove the odds up by putting in high odds and then matching the bots bets. Pretty hilarious that one.

swift-tuttle 02 Mar 13:30

I would be interested in any input that may be relevant

Multibetting? Have uploaded part of a document for your perusal. It's a few years old but may be of interest.

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BzriKHhwpRQQYjUxMjBjZTYtYmVjMi00MTFiLWE1MTYtNDk5MzM2ZTQzMTk0&hl=en

wasnt the rugby league bet something to do with laying the drop goal as firstscoring play , by a fella called neil

and then his 'brother' got involved

Thanks for that top2 rated,

The ideas outlined in that document are of great interest to me.

plenty today swift