Ok Guy's, a lot of us know the history of Slicer and his invincible Correct Scores bet. Fair play to the bloke - he may have come up with a good system....... or it could be complete tosh.
Assuming he's genuine then it seems to me a good cooperative session of some sharp minds could work out what's going on. So................
with that in mind, is anyone interested in an MSN session or two to see if this thing can be cracked?. I'm testing the water here to see if there's sufficient interest. If you're up for it, stick a post on this thread. If it looks like a few are up for the challenge I'll post some details on an MSN session for the near future.
Mr Slicer - feel free to join us if you feel you can contibute :-) ;-)
I think/hope people are thinking it through rather than spending money on it, although the odd ninepen'orth of testing aids concentration.
I suspect I have found slicer's method among a few others.
I think/hope people are thinking it through rather than spending money on it, although the odd ninepen'orth of testing aids concentration.I suspect I have found slicer's method among a few others.
steve that method is fraught with danger...the combinations do not compliment each other....if you lay the 0-0 at 12.0 for ten pounds you potentially lose 110 pounds.
if you back 0-0 half time you would have to use a stake less than the 0-0 lay otherwise wots the point...theres so many things wrong with that idea
steve that method is fraught with danger...the combinations do not compliment each other....if you lay the 0-0 at 12.0 for ten pounds you potentially lose 110 pounds.if you back 0-0 half time you would have to use a stake less than the 0-0 lay otherw
ok ok, I'll give you all clue. it involves the key number 1.21. If anyone can tell me how i know this, a medal your way. Even slicer might not know the relevance of this number to his methodology, but I assure you, to be as successfull as Slicer says, this number is crucial
ok ok, I'll give you all clue. it involves the key number 1.21. If anyone can tell me how i know this, a medal your way. Even slicer might not know the relevance of this number to his methodology, but I assure you, to be as successfull as Slicer says
Excellent to see a flurry of postings on this testing subject...and from some fresh sharp minds!....and some very illuminating from Whelk. I've been somewhat detained on other matters recently so unable to give this the fullest attention unfortunately.
Will be returning to the frey in the new year though...ding, ding!...round 2
And a happy and successful Xmas and NY Dr Slicer.....little did we know back in the Euros that the graille hunt would still be going strong!
Excellent to see a flurry of postings on this testing subject...and from some fresh sharp minds!....and some very illuminating from Whelk. I've been somewhat detained on other matters recently so unable to give this the fullest attention unfortunate
Your felicitations are reciprocated, Cartway. Congratulations on starting a thread on such a thought provoking subject. While I wish you anmd all BetFairians success in the long term, I am sure you will understand if I wish you all a total lack of success in deciphering the Slicer Method!
Your felicitations are reciprocated, Cartway. Congratulations on starting a thread on such a thought provoking subject. While I wish you anmd all BetFairians success in the long term, I am sure you will understand if I wish you all a total lack of s
reading some more of these post im wondering if my method isnt actually the slicer method but it requires the same betting patterns ie. 2 pre kick off one in play, 3 markets.
worse result for me is break even on a 0-0 draw :)
reading some more of these post im wondering if my method isnt actually the slicer method but it requires the same betting patterns ie. 2 pre kick off one in play, 3 markets.worse result for me is break even on a 0-0 draw :)
There is something to it. Not everything has been revealed. There are a number of such cadences, but there are also better ones if you are prepared to take a mixture of profits and small losses.
My 88p to one million challenge leaves me only £999984.99 short of the target.
There is something to it. Not everything has been revealed. There are a number of such cadences, but there are also better ones if you are prepared to take a mixture of profits and small losses.My 88p to one million challenge leaves me only £999984.
It is a very precise word for the kinds of patterns you see in the movement of the markets.
I have the impression that most punters look for outcomes. My interest is patterns or 'cadences'.
It is a very precise word for the kinds of patterns you see in the movement of the markets. I have the impression that most punters look for outcomes. My interest is patterns or 'cadences'.
The truth is that NO bet at roulette is at true odds, and no combination of two or more bets at unfavourable odds will produce a winning system.
I was reminded of this when reading a post on the Betfair "General Betting" forum where someone is claiming to have 'discovered' a guaranteed 100% system on football by placing two bets, with the occasional third bet.
With 553 posts to date , it seems there are a lot of gullible people around. Quite simply, for this to be true, then one market MUST be out of line with the true odds, and if this were the case, the market would soon pick up on it. Once again, no combination of unfavourable bets can possibly produce a winning system, but nevertheless, the 'hunt' goes on with conferences being held to discuss various ideas.
Good luck to them. I can personally think of better things to do with my spare time, (not that I have any), but the 'discoverer' must be having a quiet chuckle at how naive some people are.
The truth is that NO bet at roulette is at true odds, and no combination of two or more bets at unfavourable odds will produce a winning system.I was reminded of this when reading a post on the Betfair "General Betting" forum where someone is claimin
Just noticed yet another revival of this thread. Mr Catt is one norty feline. The part of his posting about me selling the System is NOT true. "A goose that lays goalden eggs is never for sale!"
I hope this clarifies the matter.
Just noticed yet another revival of this thread.Mr Catt is one norty feline. The part of his posting about me selling the System is NOT true. "A goose that lays goalden eggs is never for sale!"I hope this clarifies the matter.
Mostly I write for kids. There are a couple of my books available at present. Two more probably out in April and another in June.
I tend to collect ideas and assemble them into the story when the time is right.
The book of the forum (well it's something not quite that but draws on a lot of things I've observed here) is still in the collection stage.
I agree what is said about the unlikelihood of the 'system'. If slicer has one such of his own he has omitted to tell the entire story, and wisely so.
There are no leaks in the dam so the idea of a lay and a back with another lay if the first loses won't win consistently, just like that.
But there are some 'buts'. If you have two markets where one outgreens the redness of a red one then you are happy. If you can win quite a lot more often than you lose a little (or break even) then that's happy too.
I'm still working with my 88p. Testing with large numbers of quids isn't wise.
Then there's 'cadences' the pattern of movement. Cast between each wave and you'll cast further out, your feet stay drier and you catch more fish.
Happy fishing.
Mostly I write for kids. There are a couple of my books available at present. Two more probably out in April and another in June.I tend to collect ideas and assemble them into the story when the time is right.The book of the forum (well it's somethin
I have never sold tips or systems and I never will. Anyone who sells his system does not have a successful system. If a system works one doesnt need monet from other sauces.
Whelk- I am a collector of childrens book, I have a complete set of the original Noddy books amongst others. If you give me the info on your books I may add them to my collection.
Good luck with your puntering and gambolling. btw- their are several good opportunities on the West Ham/Fulham game and others this pm.
I have never sold tips or systems and I never will.Anyone who sells his system does not have a successful system. If a system works one doesnt need monet from other sauces.Whelk- I am a collector of childrens book, I have a complete set of the origin
It is a mathematical impossibility for a combination of two (or more) negative expectancy bets to result in a 'guaranteed' profit. This thread is just a big wind up, but it is entertaining to see how many people are being suckered. You should start a new religion Slicer.
It is a mathematical impossibility for a combination of two (or more) negative expectancy bets to result in a 'guaranteed' profit. This thread is just a big wind up, but it is entertaining to see how many people are being suckered. You should start a
Nothink wrong with the religion I have at the moment thank you!
The Very Reverend Dr Aristotle Slicer PhD MB BS B Pharm MRCVS DRCOG Cert BHD Archbishop, Chief Mullah, Chief Rabbit, Jah Minor of North Southeast Mumbai
Nothink wrong with the religion I have at the moment thank you!The Very Reverend Dr Aristotle Slicer PhD MB BS B Pharm MRCVS DRCOG Cert BHDArchbishop, Chief Mullah, Chief Rabbit, Jah Minor of North Southeast Mumbai
I agree, cpfc4me, that a scenario such as lay 0-0 HT, bet 0-0 FT and lay 0-0 FT cannot work (very often). There are a host of such systems - lay the draw, bet the loser, lay the winner, ....
So if slicer is claiming to have something like that it's a wind up.
But there are a few winning opportunities if you get away from betting outcomes.
I agree, cpfc4me, that a scenario such as lay 0-0 HT, bet 0-0 FT and lay 0-0 FT cannot work (very often). There are a host of such systems - lay the draw, bet the loser, lay the winner, .... So if slicer is claiming to have something like that it's a
I suspect that we're all simple souls or we wouldn't be here.
Outcomes - You need Spurs to win - you need less than 2.5 goals - you need someone to get a red card. If it doesn't happen you lose.
You have to guarantee a return whatever the outcome and that's what bookies do reliably. It's difficult to make a book with no overround, but in play gives you the opportunity to respond to the dynamics of the markets.
Slicer's method as described seems a bit simplistic to me because if the markets didn't adjust they would leak money, which is why I suspect he isn't telling the entire story.
Essentially you are trying to make an overround book in play. You know, for example, that you can't have the 5 to 1 you need for a particular outcome, but you also know that the dynamics of the market will deliver it - if you need it.
This is not a trivial exercise and I'm far from complete in my fun and games with it. That's why I suggest you investigate using very small stakes initially.
I suspect that we're all simple souls or we wouldn't be here.Outcomes - You need Spurs to win - you need less than 2.5 goals - you need someone to get a red card. If it doesn't happen you lose.You have to guarantee a return whatever the outcome and t
Mr Whelk- I disagree! No weigh can BetFairuians be described as simple souls. We is all complex searching for the answer to riches. Although I must admit their is one or too r souls on chit chat and the politics forum.
Just to point out both premiership games today offer excellent opportunities. Good luck all.
Mr Whelk- I disagree!No weigh can BetFairuians be described as simple souls. We is all complex searching for the answer to riches. Although I must admit their is one or too r souls on chit chat and the politics forum.Just to point out both premiershi
One of my markets in the Spurs match has a very satisfying evenly red -£0.15 from top to bottom.
Looking through today's matches, I noticed Charleroi. I went there when I was about 18 so it has an emotional pull. A danger in gambling situations.
I still have the postcards. All they had available at the time were pictures of The Palais de Beaux Arts, The Abbetoir and the Maternity Hospital.
One of my markets in the Spurs match has a very satisfying evenly red -£0.15 from top to bottom.Looking through today's matches, I noticed Charleroi. I went there when I was about 18 so it has an emotional pull. A danger in gambling situations.I sti
This Hedging strategy relies on a decrease in the odds of the 1-1 score line in the Correct Score market, after a goal is scored or two goals are scored to get the score to 1-1. Whether you are a seasoned trader or a beginner, this strategy offers quite a safe way of trading. Providing you stake correctly, you could make good percentage profits on your initial stake if you are able to Hedge using this strategy. The big advantage of this strategy is that it is a Bet First Hedge, rather than a Lay First hedge. Whenever you use a Lay First hedge (odds increasing), your profit will always be less than your original Lay stake, but with a Bet First hedge, (odds decreasing), your profit can be much bigger than your original Bet stake. This means that the potential profits from this Hedge of the Correct Score Market can be very good. If events go against you, a Dutching strategy is provided to enable you to continue trading in the match. The big odds available for this exit strategy can make this Hedging of the 1-1 score line strategy quite a safe way of trading football matches. Basic Strategy.
Before the kick-off, place a 1-1 Bet in the Correct Score market.
Place an Insurance Bet.
Whilst there are no goals, do nothing - you will break even.
After a goal is scored, Lay your original 1-1 Bet score line to profit if the Lay odds are lower than your original Bet odds.
This Hedging strategy relies on a decrease in the odds of the 1-1 score line in the Correct Score market, after a goal is scored or two goals are scored to get the score to 1-1.Whether you are a seasoned trader or a beginner, this strategy offers qui
If the match is goalless at half time, the 1-1 price will not have moved very much. If the favourite scores an early goal, the 1-1 price will often increase considerably.
You really must complete extensive research to understand thise problem.
If the match is goalless at half time, the 1-1 price will not have moved very much. If the favourite scores an early goal, the 1-1 price will often increase considerably.You really must complete extensive research to understand thise problem.
Tried this during the W.C., was going along nicely until there was a couple of goals in quick succession for the same team. Knocked the few tick profits I was making straight off the map.
Not knocking it by any means, but reminds me of our old friend the FCG ... a few, small profitable steps forward a knock in the bawllix back.
Tried this during the W.C., was going along nicely until there was a couple of goals in quick succession for the same team. Knocked the few tick profits I was making straight off the map.Not knocking it by any means, but reminds me of our old friend
The big advantage of this strategy is that it is a Bet First Hedge, rather than a Lay First hedge. Whenever you use a Lay First hedge (odds increasing), your profit will always be less than your original Lay stake, but with a Bet First hedge, (odds decreasing), your profit can be much bigger than your original Bet stake.
I'd still like to know why laying low odds would not lead to massive prophets?
The big advantage of this strategy is that it is a Bet First Hedge, rather than a Lay First hedge.Whenever you use a Lay First hedge (odds increasing), your profit will always be less than your original Lay stake, but with a Bet First hedge, (odds de
I have never given aweigh my method. But it is generally known that I plaice 2 bets before ko and then 1 further bet in running if necessary. Should bet 3 be necessary I trade out of one of the bets plaiced befor ko.
I hope this is of assistance.
I have never given aweigh my method. But it is generally known that I plaice 2 bets before ko and then 1 further bet in running if necessary. Should bet 3 be necessary I trade out of one of the bets plaiced befor ko.I hope this is of assistance.
I hate it when peopul bow before my superior knowledge. My superior knowledge is so obvious, it dont knead peopul bowing all over the plaice. But thanks for your gesture anyweigh!
Dr Aristotle Slicer PhD MB BS B Pharm MRCVS DRCOG Cert BHD Consultant in Almost Everything
I hate it when peopul bow before my superior knowledge. My superior knowledge is so obvious, it dont knead peopul bowing all over the plaice. But thanks for your gesture anyweigh!Dr Aristotle Slicer PhD MB BS B Pharm MRCVS DRCOG Cert BHDConsultant in
Don't waste your time, betfairs cross matching ensures any loopholes are only exploited by themselves. They have probably got angles covered,we havent thought of yet.
Don't waste your time, betfairs cross matching ensures any loopholes are only exploited by themselves. They have probably got angles covered,we havent thought of yet.
Just a bit of advice to anyone that might be, or in the future, be planning to try and crack the holy grail, profits have been reduced using slicers method. I only know this because I thought I had cracked it using odds from slicers known grail games, only to find it doesn't work now, which when I asked slicer he also confirmed this, shame I'm about 2 years too late :/
Just a bit of advice to anyone that might be, or in the future, be planning to try and crack the holy grail, profits have been reduced using slicers method. I only know this because I thought I had cracked it using odds from slicers known grail games
Not sure the purpose of your post, first you tell us reduced profits and then you tell us it no longer works, so which comment is correct. If it no longer works perhaps you can reveal the secret and put some of us out of our misery.
Not sure the purpose of your post, first you tell us reduced profits and then you tell us it no longer works, so which comment is correct. If it no longer works perhaps you can reveal the secret and put some of us out of our misery.
I'm sorry didn't mean to mislead, as slicer has already mentioned previously his bet was based on arbing (not in the traditional sense) between 2 markets which for some reason is hard to notice but *used to be* right in front of us. I have shared what I discovered with one other active user on this forum that was always asking questions and trying to discover the bet. I won't reveal what I found just in case me or slicer might be wrong about the reduced profits in the future, but at this moment and at least for the last 5 months there hasn't been a game to my knowledge that this bet would of worked on.
Take it from me don't waste your time working on this, I hope after the other user I shared this with has had time to test what I showed him on slicers known games and on some of the more recent games, he will be able to confirm this aswell, most of you should know him :)
I'm sorry didn't mean to mislead, as slicer has already mentioned previously his bet was based on arbing (not in the traditional sense) between 2 markets which for some reason is hard to notice but *used to be* right in front of us. I have shared wha
Oh and just to mention, I haven't made a penny out of this bet, but would of back in slicers games of around 7-9% ROI, you all know the 2 markets slicer used, the arbing is in there and its not the 0-0.
GL :D
Oh and just to mention, I haven't made a penny out of this bet, but would of back in slicers games of around 7-9% ROI, you all know the 2 markets slicer used, the arbing is in there and its not the 0-0.GL :D
I have only just noticed the revival of this thread. Why has this been revived???
We all know what happened when someone tried to sell the System allegedly knowing the content of the Holy Grail. The very first bet lost a lot of people a lot of money
I know I joke around a lot on these forums and offer some serious advice on subjects I know about.
BUT HEED THIS WARNING. IF ANYONE ALLEGES THAT IT WAS I WHO SOLD THIS SYSTEM RESULTING IN LOSSES, I SHALL INSTRUCT MY LEGAL TEAM TO TAKE ACTION. I have repeatedly stated that I do not post on any other betting forums or have any other user or forum name on BetFair forums. MY LEGAL TEAM WILL TAKE ACTION INSTRUCTING BETFAIR TO CONFIRM WHAT I HAVE STATED. My good name is of the utmost importance. TAKE THIS AS THE ONE AND ONLY WARNING! My costs will be substantial as will my compensation!
I have only just noticed the revival of this thread. Why has this been revived???We all know what happened when someone tried to sell the System allegedly knowing the content of the Holy Grail. The very first bet lost a lot of people a lot of moneyI