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Coachbuster
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Report kenilworth February 21, 2010 1:47 PM GMT
It depends on how you define discipline.
Report Coachbuster February 21, 2010 1:50 PM GMT
concentrating on a game and not wandering off to the forums ;)
Report Coachbuster February 21, 2010 1:51 PM GMT
Honestly Kenilworth , it will be my downfall
Report kenilworth February 21, 2010 2:07 PM GMT
Coachbuster, what is your definition of ''discipline'' ?
Report stevies5_mufc February 21, 2010 2:49 PM GMT
coachbuster.. its the 1 thing i lack lol + try and make income too quickly
Report Coachbuster February 21, 2010 2:59 PM GMT
kenilworth 21 Feb 15:07
Coachbuster, what is your definition of ''discipline'' ?

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Is this an English mock exam ?
Report Coachbuster February 21, 2010 2:59 PM GMT
Stevies ,how are things going , i havent seen you around lately ?
Report Coachbuster February 21, 2010 3:01 PM GMT
Self contol Kenilworth ,not being easily distracted .
Report kenilworth February 21, 2010 3:02 PM GMT
In my experience many punters, when winning, call it good judgement, but when losing, call it lack of discipline, when actually the gap between winning and losing is very thin, and many punters simply can't accept it when the correction arrives after a good run, and put it down to something else (lack of discipline ?)
Report kenilworth February 21, 2010 3:06 PM GMT
Coachbuster, distraction isn't necessarily followed by losing. Only if you want to shift blame. GL.
Report stevies5_mufc February 21, 2010 3:18 PM GMT
coach ive given up mate, i cant make it work at all.. tried so many different things haha just wont work
hows things going with you? still part time? :p
Report stevies5_mufc February 21, 2010 3:21 PM GMT
heres an example, turned 100 into 1000 on a number of things, decided to lump 900 on laying the 0-0 in tenerife vs valencia game in order to get my mum a new phone... the f**king match finished 0-0 lol, thats lack of discipline or is that poor judgement?
cause i actually did my research and i expected goals in it lol
Report Contrarian February 21, 2010 3:22 PM GMT
thats lack of discipline or is that poor judgement?
cause i actually did my research and i expected goals in it lol


Well, that's extraordinarily bad staking.
Report buzzer February 21, 2010 3:23 PM GMT
impossible to win with staking like that
Report stevies5_mufc February 21, 2010 3:24 PM GMT
it was to make a few quid.. i know it was stupid staking haha but was it poor judgement to place that bet or lack of discipline no matter what amount it was? ;)
Report buzzer February 21, 2010 3:25 PM GMT
Stevie, you made the money, obviously, by going nigh on all in and that becomes your mindset you need to stick rigidly to a staking plan and understand Rome wasn't built in a day.
Report Contrarian February 21, 2010 3:30 PM GMT
was it poor judgement to place that bet or lack of discipline no matter what amount it was?

Clearly overstaking is a lack of discipline. We can only say whether or not the bet itself was value if we look at the details of that particular fixture. Note, though, the level of confidence reflected in the size of your bet (relative to your bank size) would only be justified if the Betfair market were hugely out of line. This very rarely happens, especially in a reasonably liquid event like that football match.
Report Lori February 21, 2010 3:41 PM GMT
I'd say clearly overstaking is a lack of an edge, not a lack of discipline.

If you reduce your expected growth below zero, that's an issue with ability.
Report kenilworth February 21, 2010 3:56 PM GMT
Probably thought he was stealing money laying 0-0. Fine when you keep collecting but there's always one lurking round the corner. Lack of discipline ? Why does it become even a consideration just when a bet goes wrong ? How did he get from 100 to 1000 ? Doing the same thing perhaps.
Report stevies5_mufc February 21, 2010 3:57 PM GMT
kenilworth i didnt get to 1000 laying 0-0s mate, it was mixed up through large number of markets.. but just thought ill lay a 0-0 here to make a quick few quid
Report kenilworth February 21, 2010 4:15 PM GMT
Maybe I should have said ''doing similar things''. If I'm wrong I apologise, but multiplying your money tenfold is not easy to do unless you have a lot of winning bets. In the absence of how you did it, one can only guess. GL.
Report stevies5_mufc February 21, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
it was ALOT of markets i was involved in, constantly trading out and going onto other things, some short odds too, i will admit i went all in a number of times lol but mainly just betting in according to the amount i was wanting to make per bet...
Report Coachbuster February 21, 2010 5:09 PM GMT
Kenilworth .... i wasn't talking about pure bad luck or corrections , i was talking about discipline ... ie being distracted easily and missing out on the certain games/moments in the game which are essential to your strategy .

Stevies , Youre staking a fair old packet on your games , couldnt you start smaller ?
Report Coachbuster February 21, 2010 5:14 PM GMT
or stick to roughly staking the same each match ? ...seems like you were doing Ok before then
Report Sunset Cristo February 21, 2010 5:33 PM GMT
stevies5_mufc it's lack of discipline, lack of judgment and extraordinarily bad staking.You will never win staking like that.
Report Rocket to the FACE February 21, 2010 7:46 PM GMT
overstaking creates exactly what you experienced. large quick gains followed by one or two losses that cripple your bank.

Go for small consistent gains. And every time you put a bet on ask yourself if you can afford to lose the stake if it goes wrong.
Report DAN1974 February 21, 2010 9:28 PM GMT
I have a real problem with discipline, today is a prime example.

I try really hard to only bet on horse racing as it has proved to be the only sport i can make a profit on, the trouble is i am a massive football fan and cannot stop myself betting on it.

As all Horse Racing was abandoned today i was determined not to have a bet at all today, but i failed and have fininshed the day well down.
Report Lori February 21, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
If you're a massive football fan, it should be easier not to bet on it than if you were watching two random teams in the curling in canada?
Report kenilworth February 21, 2010 11:07 PM GMT
Why is backing losers always blamed on ''lack of discipline'' ? Does it make the punter feel better, thinking the losing bet wasn't just bad judgement ? It seems that way.
Report subversion February 21, 2010 11:25 PM GMT
backing a loser isn't lacking discipline

backing a loser then chasing like a maniac is
Report DFCIRONMAN February 22, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
If you lose concentration and forget, momentarily, a key factor say when lay bet placed on a horse ......and that horse wins....and you know why it won......then blaming yourself for "lack of discipline " ( losing concentration and forgetting a key factor) is what that scenario is.

Yes ...it was a losing bet, not through "bad judgment"........ but through momentarily forgetting a key factor.

If you don't analyse why you lost on a bet .....you won't learn anything...... Sometimes the reason is losing concentration ( can be for numerous reasons) and not analysing all factors for race carefully enough............

If you don't recognise you over looked a key factor, then you won't win the next time there is a similar race with similar race shape etc etc etc...........but if you are fully concentrating the next time ( part of discipline ) you will at least make a better choice of bet.

Not every losing bet is down to bad discipline ........but some are........and as long as you recognise why you made the mistake, then your betting in future should be far better than if you are totally oblivious to why the bet lost.
Report jimmy two times February 22, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
**kkkkkk all y'all
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