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Coachbuster
21 Feb 10 13:33
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If you could buy it in a bottle it would cost you a lot of money

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By:
kenilworth
When: 21 Feb 10 13:47
It depends on how you define discipline.
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Feb 10 13:50
concentrating on a game and not wandering off to the forums ;)
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Feb 10 13:51
Honestly Kenilworth , it will be my downfall
By:
kenilworth
When: 21 Feb 10 14:07
Coachbuster, what is your definition of ''discipline'' ?
By:
stevies5_mufc
When: 21 Feb 10 14:49
coachbuster.. its the 1 thing i lack lol + try and make income too quickly
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Feb 10 14:59
kenilworth 21 Feb 15:07
Coachbuster, what is your definition of ''discipline'' ?

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Is this an English mock exam ?
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Feb 10 14:59
Stevies ,how are things going , i havent seen you around lately ?
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Feb 10 15:01
Self contol Kenilworth ,not being easily distracted .
By:
kenilworth
When: 21 Feb 10 15:02
In my experience many punters, when winning, call it good judgement, but when losing, call it lack of discipline, when actually the gap between winning and losing is very thin, and many punters simply can't accept it when the correction arrives after a good run, and put it down to something else (lack of discipline ?)
By:
kenilworth
When: 21 Feb 10 15:06
Coachbuster, distraction isn't necessarily followed by losing. Only if you want to shift blame. GL.
By:
stevies5_mufc
When: 21 Feb 10 15:18
coach ive given up mate, i cant make it work at all.. tried so many different things haha just wont work
hows things going with you? still part time? :p
By:
stevies5_mufc
When: 21 Feb 10 15:21
heres an example, turned 100 into 1000 on a number of things, decided to lump 900 on laying the 0-0 in tenerife vs valencia game in order to get my mum a new phone... the f**king match finished 0-0 lol, thats lack of discipline or is that poor judgement?
cause i actually did my research and i expected goals in it lol
By:
Contrarian
When: 21 Feb 10 15:22
thats lack of discipline or is that poor judgement?
cause i actually did my research and i expected goals in it lol


Well, that's extraordinarily bad staking.
By:
buzzer
When: 21 Feb 10 15:23
impossible to win with staking like that
By:
stevies5_mufc
When: 21 Feb 10 15:24
it was to make a few quid.. i know it was stupid staking haha but was it poor judgement to place that bet or lack of discipline no matter what amount it was? ;)
By:
buzzer
When: 21 Feb 10 15:25
Stevie, you made the money, obviously, by going nigh on all in and that becomes your mindset you need to stick rigidly to a staking plan and understand Rome wasn't built in a day.
By:
Contrarian
When: 21 Feb 10 15:30
was it poor judgement to place that bet or lack of discipline no matter what amount it was?

Clearly overstaking is a lack of discipline. We can only say whether or not the bet itself was value if we look at the details of that particular fixture. Note, though, the level of confidence reflected in the size of your bet (relative to your bank size) would only be justified if the Betfair market were hugely out of line. This very rarely happens, especially in a reasonably liquid event like that football match.
By:
Lori
When: 21 Feb 10 15:41
I'd say clearly overstaking is a lack of an edge, not a lack of discipline.

If you reduce your expected growth below zero, that's an issue with ability.
By:
kenilworth
When: 21 Feb 10 15:56
Probably thought he was stealing money laying 0-0. Fine when you keep collecting but there's always one lurking round the corner. Lack of discipline ? Why does it become even a consideration just when a bet goes wrong ? How did he get from 100 to 1000 ? Doing the same thing perhaps.
By:
stevies5_mufc
When: 21 Feb 10 15:57
kenilworth i didnt get to 1000 laying 0-0s mate, it was mixed up through large number of markets.. but just thought ill lay a 0-0 here to make a quick few quid
By:
kenilworth
When: 21 Feb 10 16:15
Maybe I should have said ''doing similar things''. If I'm wrong I apologise, but multiplying your money tenfold is not easy to do unless you have a lot of winning bets. In the absence of how you did it, one can only guess. GL.
By:
stevies5_mufc
When: 21 Feb 10 16:30
it was ALOT of markets i was involved in, constantly trading out and going onto other things, some short odds too, i will admit i went all in a number of times lol but mainly just betting in according to the amount i was wanting to make per bet...
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Feb 10 17:09
Kenilworth .... i wasn't talking about pure bad luck or corrections , i was talking about discipline ... ie being distracted easily and missing out on the certain games/moments in the game which are essential to your strategy .

Stevies , Youre staking a fair old packet on your games , couldnt you start smaller ?
By:
Coachbuster
When: 21 Feb 10 17:14
or stick to roughly staking the same each match ? ...seems like you were doing Ok before then
By:
Sunset Cristo
When: 21 Feb 10 17:33
stevies5_mufc it's lack of discipline, lack of judgment and extraordinarily bad staking.You will never win staking like that.
By:
Rocket to the FACE
When: 21 Feb 10 19:46
overstaking creates exactly what you experienced. large quick gains followed by one or two losses that cripple your bank.

Go for small consistent gains. And every time you put a bet on ask yourself if you can afford to lose the stake if it goes wrong.
By:
DAN1974
When: 21 Feb 10 21:28
I have a real problem with discipline, today is a prime example.

I try really hard to only bet on horse racing as it has proved to be the only sport i can make a profit on, the trouble is i am a massive football fan and cannot stop myself betting on it.

As all Horse Racing was abandoned today i was determined not to have a bet at all today, but i failed and have fininshed the day well down.
By:
Lori
When: 21 Feb 10 21:34
If you're a massive football fan, it should be easier not to bet on it than if you were watching two random teams in the curling in canada?
By:
kenilworth
When: 21 Feb 10 23:07
Why is backing losers always blamed on ''lack of discipline'' ? Does it make the punter feel better, thinking the losing bet wasn't just bad judgement ? It seems that way.
By:
subversion
When: 21 Feb 10 23:25
backing a loser isn't lacking discipline

backing a loser then chasing like a maniac is
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 22 Feb 10 00:20
If you lose concentration and forget, momentarily, a key factor say when lay bet placed on a horse ......and that horse wins....and you know why it won......then blaming yourself for "lack of discipline " ( losing concentration and forgetting a key factor) is what that scenario is.

Yes ...it was a losing bet, not through "bad judgment"........ but through momentarily forgetting a key factor.

If you don't analyse why you lost on a bet .....you won't learn anything...... Sometimes the reason is losing concentration ( can be for numerous reasons) and not analysing all factors for race carefully enough............

If you don't recognise you over looked a key factor, then you won't win the next time there is a similar race with similar race shape etc etc etc...........but if you are fully concentrating the next time ( part of discipline ) you will at least make a better choice of bet.

Not every losing bet is down to bad discipline ........but some are........and as long as you recognise why you made the mistake, then your betting in future should be far better than if you are totally oblivious to why the bet lost.
By:
jimmy two times
When: 22 Feb 10 00:24
**kkkkkk all y'all
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