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zeeny
15 Mar 09 12:46
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...and if you're using the international exchange, so are you.

1. The Betfair Premium charge discriminates for holders of accounts in currency different than GBP. Ok, they said nothing can be done, so we can keep rolling.

2. Over the last 3 days, there have been 7+ different outages for the international exchange ranging from 15 minutes to 1 hour(yesterday during the PL games).
They seem to affect only a small number of people.
Unlucky me, I've always been in that "few clients", as per BF announcements.
Actually, I've been one of those "few" every single time for the last 6 years.
Now, those "few" finally have a label, "Those dirty foreigners" using the Malta exchange server.
When Betfair announced that they are moving all international customers outside the UK, I never assumed that this meant we're no longer entitled to receiving equal access and customer rights as UK clients.
This is the first time I'm going to say this, and it would hopefully be the last, but if there is one thing that could turn me off using the Betfair website, it's unreliability.

In the last 72 hours:

- Inability to login, it's an "internal login error" if you try to use BF login video. Main site simply doesn't process the login frame.
- Internal error on submitting bets.
- "We're experincing technical difficulties" on submitting bets.
- "....technical difficulties" on loading the main page.
- The "Loading markets" bug(that is **ING OBVIOUSLY A CACHING ISSUE, BUT HEY, IT CAN'T BE FIXED, SO KEEP CLEARING YOUR COOKIES)

I accept that I'm guilty for all of those, I wasn't born in the UK, I guess.

PS: You'll NEVER**the issue with multiple stake boxes in the Place Bets tab, would you?
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Report zeeny March 15, 2009 11:51 AM GMT
PPS: Oh yeah baby, site is down. AGAIN.
Report THE CATT March 15, 2009 11:51 AM GMT
yeah.. what he said ^
Report Still standing March 15, 2009 12:01 PM GMT
Maybe they can put the 146 BP Premium charge I was robbed of last week toward fixing the problem.
Report The Allchemist March 15, 2009 12:04 PM GMT
agree word by word
"international users" are sh1t for BF staff, we pay more for less
well done BF, betting as it should be lol
Report Still standing March 15, 2009 12:07 PM GMT
Don't forget that they welcome winners too.
Report The Allchemist March 15, 2009 12:10 PM GMT
yep
marketing slogans were never so funny
Report zeeny March 15, 2009 12:29 PM GMT
I absolutely LOVE the post-facto announcements.
Report Siracusa March 15, 2009 12:37 PM GMT
What is the architecture with this international exchange server? What operations go through it for non-UK customers? How does this fit in with the first-in first-out betting queues?
Report dude67 March 15, 2009 12:48 PM GMT
It's still not working. I get the message "You do not have any bets on this market", on markets where I do have current bets. (According to "My Account".)
This system seems very unreliable. Good thing it isn't handling real money.... Wait, that's bad!!
Report zeeny March 15, 2009 12:54 PM GMT
There we go. Internal Error on submitting bets. P/L Display on markets gone. NO idea what your position actually is.
Report dude67 March 15, 2009 1:02 PM GMT
OK, clearing my temporary internet files and my cookies actually made my current bets re-appear in my markets. Fantastic!
Thanks for the hint above in the thread.
Report rom34000 March 15, 2009 1:02 PM GMT
yep ; yesterday and today it's a KO for us ( non uk) . Betfair really need to do something to**all this ....
Report Spendabuck March 15, 2009 1:29 PM GMT
zeeny
As another 2nd rate customer I wholeheartedly agree.
It's the unreliability that really gets me. You never know when you will be prevented from executing your next wager or cancellation. Extremely dangerous, especially in-running. It just puts me off getting involved in any match or race completely.
Report Eddie the eagle March 15, 2009 1:37 PM GMT
Signing in. Zeeny said it all so I've got nothing to add , maybe except that this North Korean standard International exchange server just give you one more incentive to go purple. The purple thought looks better and better in my eys for every weeks that passes , for the first time I'm actually seariosly thinking about it.
Report man of many moods March 15, 2009 1:54 PM GMT
Yup - experiencing all of the above again today, plus site freezing periodically for five minutes or so at a time. Happens with IE and Firefox so it's not a browser issue.
Report Humbert The Priest March 15, 2009 1:54 PM GMT
Hi Eddie - I'm probably going purple too. This happens too often. And besides, it looks like a nice site :-) If enough of us do it, the liquidity will be similar or even better over there.
Report got it March 15, 2009 1:58 PM GMT
Betfair Customer Services 15 Mar 14:20

Please be advised international bet placement was disabled, and customers were unable to login or place bets. All unmatched international bets were cancelled.

Bet placement is now operational and international customers can now log in. We are aware some International users may still experience problems when attempting to place bets.

We are working on a resolution at high priority. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Report farraflash March 15, 2009 1:58 PM GMT
use both
Report got it March 15, 2009 1:58 PM GMT
again, international users.......
Report zeeny March 15, 2009 2:17 PM GMT
Boooom.....down we go.
Report Alexandru March 15, 2009 2:30 PM GMT
It's a joke Betfair.
I understand you get greedy year by year, but at least provide us the service you used to give many years ago.... this is the minimum you HAVE TO provide us with and a lot more if you want to be called ***FAIR.
Report nervous1 March 15, 2009 2:37 PM GMT
Calm down, Betfair have responded immediately and made the service for UK users just the same, starting around 14:00 GMT today.
Report zeeny March 15, 2009 2:40 PM GMT
That was short, only about 10 minutes.
And no, so far today UK service has been without probs.
Report caramba March 15, 2009 2:42 PM GMT
signing in
Report zeeny March 15, 2009 2:43 PM GMT
Outages standing @ double digits btw, with the last 4 hours.
Report goldendeer March 15, 2009 3:17 PM GMT
premium charge
new matching logic
hooverers
trap bettors
insiders
...
international server
site downgrades

dont you love it?
Report zeeny March 16, 2009 9:20 AM GMT
I like this thread too much to let it die. Plus, odds are it would be relevant again once the weekend comes.
Report MugsGame March 16, 2009 9:50 AM GMT
Still standing don't gripe about losing £146..........they had £800 off me :)
Report zeeny March 16, 2009 1:37 PM GMT
BOOOM...and the website goes down. AGAIN.
Something has to change.
Report zeeny March 17, 2009 7:04 PM GMT
Another outage. Only for the plebs, of course.
Report Eddie the eagle March 17, 2009 7:05 PM GMT
BoooooooM , this mornings upgrade obviously didn.t**it ! The dreadful "internal error" is back !
Report zeeny March 17, 2009 7:06 PM GMT
Of course it fixed it. We're just misinformed. It's a different reason this time.....sea monkeys ate the cable connected the server managing internal errors.
Report The Allchemist March 17, 2009 7:25 PM GMT
here we are again
unlike the other day this new issue has cost me almost 350€
Betting here is every day a new surprise for our pocket and our hearts
How can I get recovered for this unexpected lost? Betting here? No way
Betfair team, **** off
Report Decky March 17, 2009 7:44 PM GMT
im fluked that Arsenal didnt equalize.... When is this going to be fixed?!
Report Alexandru March 17, 2009 7:50 PM GMT
same here. For some reason, I feel like a 2nd rate customer...
Report Wondeful Greece March 17, 2009 8:01 PM GMT
how difficult is the problem that entire betfair team can NOT solve the problem? it 's over 2-3 months now that i am having this problem... Someone has to go home and stay there i think...
Report dude67 March 17, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
No worries. The system will magically come back up, once the gunners game is over. :-)
Report hazel March 17, 2009 8:18 PM GMT
Betfair are merely following Gordon Brown's sentiments:

"British Exchanges for British Punters"
Report Alexandru March 17, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
Gordon Brown's illegal grandson of Hitler...
Report dude67 March 17, 2009 8:31 PM GMT
2-1 Arsenal, and the system is back up. There goes my strategy....
Report MissingRibOfPrince March 22, 2009 9:50 AM GMT
my matched bets just disappeared,haven't had any trouble for a few days now but hope its not tonight
Report Eddie the eagle April 22, 2009 10:45 AM BST
Here we go again !
Report Eddie the eagle July 13, 2009 6:43 AM BST
The dreadful internal error is back !! Can't see my positions or place any bets !
Report Eddie the eagle July 13, 2009 6:44 AM BST
The dreadful internal error is back !! Can't see my positions or place any bets !
Report Eddie the eagle July 13, 2009 7:33 AM BST
Working again now.
Report Eddie the eagle January 31, 2010 7:48 AM GMT
Betfair , those of us outside UK do now have to restart our computer to see our unmatched under the "my bets" tab. Can you please**this asap ?
Report man of many moods January 31, 2010 8:00 AM GMT
You do not have any bets on this market
Report qet January 31, 2010 8:14 AM GMT
Also foreigner here, German. Since last Tuesday my money is stuck somewhere between Casino account and main wallet in Betfair's network nirwana.
First, I could not make any bets from my main wallet. Then I transferred the money to the casino and back. Then it worked (for 2 hrs).

When I wanted to re-transfer money from the casino acct to main wallet in the 3rd trial, I got a message "communication error". And since Tuesday morning 03:32:29 the money is "waiting" in the casino account.

I wrote 2 mails. For 1 I got a wishi-washi reply, the 2nd hasn't been answered at all. I then called customer (?) service (?) (what customer service) in Malta Saturday morning.

Effect is: I can't still to date make any bets at all since the main wallet is empty and the casino account is frozen.

I would go to jail if I would say what I really think about Betfairs's technicians, administrators and the like. Too stupid or too lazy to set the whole thing back?
Report chop180 January 31, 2010 10:34 AM GMT
^^^^^^

Feel free to say it, probably been mentioned on many occasions :D
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