General Betting
Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
Serious question:
What do you tell family & friends who constantly keep asking "have you got another job yet"? I quit my job last September. I was very unhappy in it, very stressed and it was making me poorly. Since then I make enough to pay my bills each month and probably just earn a few hundred more than what I was earning on my paid salary. I feel very content & healthy-a feeling i hadn't had for a long time.
But now I'm being hen pecked from all sides-certain individuals can't cope because how I make my crust isn't "conventional".
I can get by with the opinions of so called friends, but what have you guys done when immediate family have nagged you? I almost feel obliged to jump back into a dead end job, become depressed again, just to appease others.
What do you tell family & friends who constantly keep asking "have you got another job yet"? I quit my job last September. I was very unhappy in it, very stressed and it was making me poorly. Since then I make enough to pay my bills each month and probably just earn a few hundred more than what I was earning on my paid salary. I feel very content & healthy-a feeling i hadn't had for a long time.
But now I'm being hen pecked from all sides-certain individuals can't cope because how I make my crust isn't "conventional".
I can get by with the opinions of so called friends, but what have you guys done when immediate family have nagged you? I almost feel obliged to jump back into a dead end job, become depressed again, just to appease others.
Show More
Just laugh at them.
"Haha, very good" that kind of thing until they get the message that they're dumb.
"Haha, very good" that kind of thing until they get the message that they're dumb.
what's wrong with telling them the truth? So long as you are bringing money in they will get used to it and see it as positive.
Recommend them to see a cognital behavioral therapist.
Not serious answer ... there was a sketch show couple of years, good one where someone is saying at a dinner party that he's started a new job working from home, and everyone is seriously asking him ..' how do you fit in the mastu rb8ting with the work?'
get used to it mate - it wont stop
i've been doing this for years and if i thump the desk when a trade goes wrong, the wife still thinks we're going to lose the house etc
our lifestyle has changed beyond recognition, but they can't help being cautious
i've been doing this for years and if i thump the desk when a trade goes wrong, the wife still thinks we're going to lose the house etc
our lifestyle has changed beyond recognition, but they can't help being cautious
Don't follow the sheep do your own thing, tell them you are a online investor and you buy and sell, don't leave the sheep drive you into their way of thinking , the government love the sheep because they vote for them and keep them in their luxury lifestyle and pay high taxes get married then pay for expensive divorce settlements to keep the solicitors in their luxury lifestyle, the system is setup to keep you poor and them rich, stay away from dead end jobs and don't conform to the treadmill of life, carry on with what your doing, and laugh at the sheep.
Mully
When you say trade, in what markets do you trade, i have been laying in the correct score market with some success but its gambling, i have traded out of some positions but i am just getting into the concept of trading and i will be looking at the tennis in ozz in the next few days.
When you say trade, in what markets do you trade, i have been laying in the correct score market with some success but its gambling, i have traded out of some positions but i am just getting into the concept of trading and i will be looking at the tennis in ozz in the next few days.
I suppose I'm a bettor really. When I say trade, from my perspective it means changing my position, essentially in-running plays on a single market. Main "plays" are football, tennis, horseracing, rugby.
I like the "sheep" analogy-it's so true. This morning's fracas came about because being as I'm at home. they see me as some sort of "house servant". But I like to keep to very rigid hours but the family think they can interrupt whenever they want.
Do you guys lock yourself in a room? :-)
I like the "sheep" analogy-it's so true. This morning's fracas came about because being as I'm at home. they see me as some sort of "house servant". But I like to keep to very rigid hours but the family think they can interrupt whenever they want.
Do you guys lock yourself in a room? :-)
Mully
I moved into my own home and the phone is red hot with the family ringing to do errands in my car, i don't mind helping but its become overkill, i study for hours to eliminate mistakes from the past, i am usually on the (The one that got away thread) on general betting, there you can test your skill in the football lay market for fun, i had a run of 30 lays and 3 losses, but i pride myself on low liabilities, stick your head in later if you want.
I moved into my own home and the phone is red hot with the family ringing to do errands in my car, i don't mind helping but its become overkill, i study for hours to eliminate mistakes from the past, i am usually on the (The one that got away thread) on general betting, there you can test your skill in the football lay market for fun, i had a run of 30 lays and 3 losses, but i pride myself on low liabilities, stick your head in later if you want.
Tell them your self - employed and leave it at that ...if they are cheeky enough to delve deeper...just change the subject.
Sorry *Laying Correct Score Market 09/10" is the thread the author is The One That Got Away, some sharp minds on there.
Be honest with those you live with. Tell everyone else your chilling
I have a similar situation to you and i think the problem is family and friends don't understand the difference between gambling and trading - there is a stigma surrounding horse racing and gambling - Explain to them what you do in detail and once they have a better understanding it will become more accepted.
".........certain individuals can't cope because how I make my crust isn't "conventional".
chances are they wouldn't have a clue anyway if you did tell them,
trying to explain trading and the exchanges to anyone who doesn't know can get very confusing,
so you've explained it and they still don't know.........
just say your an online trader....you push a few buttons.....and shuffle a bit of money around.....
keep it simple, or say you trade on the money markets online......true and accurate !
chances are they wouldn't have a clue anyway if you did tell them,
trying to explain trading and the exchanges to anyone who doesn't know can get very confusing,
so you've explained it and they still don't know.........
just say your an online trader....you push a few buttons.....and shuffle a bit of money around.....
keep it simple, or say you trade on the money markets online......true and accurate !
thelilster 18 Jan 13:37
I have a similar situation to you and i think the problem is family and friends don't understand the difference between gambling and trading - there is a stigma surrounding horse racing and gambling - Explain to them what you do in detail and once they have a better understanding it will become more accepted.
trading is just a fancy name for gambling really though. I trade a lot but every time you enter a market you are gambling that it will go the way you want it to. Too many people say "oh its okay i am trading not gambling" but they are fooling themselves in the long run. Of course you can be successful gambling/trading but it can just as easily go the other way
I have a similar situation to you and i think the problem is family and friends don't understand the difference between gambling and trading - there is a stigma surrounding horse racing and gambling - Explain to them what you do in detail and once they have a better understanding it will become more accepted.
trading is just a fancy name for gambling really though. I trade a lot but every time you enter a market you are gambling that it will go the way you want it to. Too many people say "oh its okay i am trading not gambling" but they are fooling themselves in the long run. Of course you can be successful gambling/trading but it can just as easily go the other way
dlarssonf
It depends how skilled you are + also there are a number of bots that will help reduce the risk
it sounds like you are another example of someone who doesn't fully appreciate the difference between gambling and trading
It depends how skilled you are + also there are a number of bots that will help reduce the risk
it sounds like you are another example of someone who doesn't fully appreciate the difference between gambling and trading
but they are fooling themselves in the long run
Again, all depends on the individual - obviously some will fail but that is simply down to their own faults
Again, all depends on the individual - obviously some will fail but that is simply down to their own faults
why because I disagree with you. Whether you are trading on sports exchanges, on the futures markets , when you take a position and your money is at risk - its a gamble.
maybe you haven't grasped the concept you patronising cnut
maybe you haven't grasped the concept you patronising cnut
its not about agreeing or disagreeing i wasn't asking for your opinion - i was simply giving advice to the original post
It doesn't matter what you say you do. As soon as your back's turned they'll whisper "cnut's a drug dealer". If you're a filthy trader or a fast pic player at least they think you're involved in something a bit more honourable.
thelilster 18 Jan 15:21
Maybe your just not very good at trading??
maybe your right , maybe your wrong but your definetly a grade A cnut
Maybe your just not very good at trading??
maybe your right , maybe your wrong but your definetly a grade A cnut
Now ,now children - be nice to each other .
Let's return to the original point and not argue about betting/trading.
Why is it on these forums, when someone just asks for a bit of advice, you always get some idiot who has to disagree with what you tell them. I didn't ask for your opinion, i don't want your opinion, and why can't you stop saying cnut???
These forums are filled with people like you who have no idea about 'PROFESSIONAL' trading but think they know it all. Idiots like you should be banned from having an opinion. bye
These forums are filled with people like you who have no idea about 'PROFESSIONAL' trading but think they know it all. Idiots like you should be banned from having an opinion. bye
Mully - I left teaching a couple of years ago.I now lay horses in running on a full time basis.
I am more than happy to tell family and friends what I do.
The central point is that I am delighted that I was able to get out of teaching.As in all things you have your highs and lows betting,but I would never lie about what I do for a living.Why should you have to ?
I am more than happy to tell family and friends what I do.
The central point is that I am delighted that I was able to get out of teaching.As in all things you have your highs and lows betting,but I would never lie about what I do for a living.Why should you have to ?
matt le tiss 18 Jan 15:39
Has the PC made a difference ?
I am not sure how other people deal with PC charges .
The way that I deal with the issue is to accept it[because I do not have a viable alternative ] and I have increased my stake size to cover the increased charges.
Has the PC made a difference ?
I am not sure how other people deal with PC charges .
The way that I deal with the issue is to accept it[because I do not have a viable alternative ] and I have increased my stake size to cover the increased charges.
thelilster 18 Jan 15:35
Why is it on these forums, when someone just asks for a bit of advice, you always get some idiot who has to disagree with what you tell them. I didn't ask for your opinion, i don't want your opinion, and why can't you stop saying cnut???
These forums are filled with people like you who have no idea about 'PROFESSIONAL' trading but think they know it all. Idiots like you should be banned from having an opinion. bye
get over yourself you CNUT, you post on a public forum and don't expect any opinion. I wasn't abusive to you orginally , I was merely giving my opinion. If you don't want an opinion or debate I suggest you post on a private forum and trade with yourself there CNUT
Why is it on these forums, when someone just asks for a bit of advice, you always get some idiot who has to disagree with what you tell them. I didn't ask for your opinion, i don't want your opinion, and why can't you stop saying cnut???
These forums are filled with people like you who have no idea about 'PROFESSIONAL' trading but think they know it all. Idiots like you should be banned from having an opinion. bye
get over yourself you CNUT, you post on a public forum and don't expect any opinion. I wasn't abusive to you orginally , I was merely giving my opinion. If you don't want an opinion or debate I suggest you post on a private forum and trade with yourself there CNUT
Dodgy Dix 26 Dec 21:50
thelilster
just face it u r a kn0b
bye
it seems you don't like anyone having an opinion mmm mmmm
thelilster
just face it u r a kn0b
bye
it seems you don't like anyone having an opinion mmm mmmm
imo trading or betting on the outcome of an event are essentially the same thing. The aim is to end up with more money than you started with, albeit following a different method.
Larsson is correct I believe.
Larsson is correct I believe.
In response to the original poster, unfortunately you will never convince somebody who believes that "There's only one winner in this game, the bookie" that what you are doing is in anyway a valid pursuit.
You'll always be a gambler to them, on the verge of risking the mortgage and propably friends with gangsters/criminals on the side too.
You'll always be a gambler to them, on the verge of risking the mortgage and propably friends with gangsters/criminals on the side too.
Good shout Dave
look further up the thread and see my sheep analogy
look further up the thread and see my sheep analogy
Last woman I went out with asked what I did for a living, I said "I´m a trader".
She said "what market are you in"?. I said, "horses and football".
She said "can you get my daughter a pony and my son a pair of boots"!!
I said "goodbye"!!!
She said "what market are you in"?. I said, "horses and football".
She said "can you get my daughter a pony and my son a pair of boots"!!
I said "goodbye"!!!
Very true Ospreyman, they want to keep you in your place. Even a lot of the people you know!
My opinion is they can all shove it.
My opinion is they can all shove it.
In 2 weeks it'll be 10 years since I gave up my job ( YAHOOO :) )
Some family/friends still think I'm mad.
You'll just have to get used to being unconventional and all the bagage that entails from people who are unable to even think its possible.
Don't try and convince these people as they'll always be a set of people who are unconvincable, be vague, use phrases like "I'm in computers" or "Risk analysis" when asked what you do.
Some family/friends still think I'm mad.
You'll just have to get used to being unconventional and all the bagage that entails from people who are unable to even think its possible.
Don't try and convince these people as they'll always be a set of people who are unconvincable, be vague, use phrases like "I'm in computers" or "Risk analysis" when asked what you do.
Also if you have a very good day/week/month don't bother shouting about it. Very very few will share your joy or pat you on the back. Most will give a very muted response or change the subject. And more people than you think will get the right hump!
I almost feel obliged to jump back into a dead end job, become depressed again, just to appease others.
The issue is one of career. If you truly believe that you can continue to earn a living by betting then all well and good. If you suspect that you may have to return to the workplace sometime in the future then the question turns from "making a living" to "making a career". By spending so long away from the job market are you making yourself unemployable?
Over the course of his lifetime an average person would expect to make £800K - £1m from employment. Will you make this from gambling? If not, will you be able to find employment/another means of income?
The issue is one of career. If you truly believe that you can continue to earn a living by betting then all well and good. If you suspect that you may have to return to the workplace sometime in the future then the question turns from "making a living" to "making a career". By spending so long away from the job market are you making yourself unemployable?
Over the course of his lifetime an average person would expect to make £800K - £1m from employment. Will you make this from gambling? If not, will you be able to find employment/another means of income?
Never been into "careers". Had a go at it, hated it. Seen too may "career minded" people die or fall ill. I've thought to myself-poor sods, surely there's more to life than being put on a treadmill like a hamster. Life is for living :D
Well, a career doesn't necessarily mean staying in the same job for a lifetime, working from ground to top. It can also mean having "experience" - substance to a CV which proves you can be of use to an employer. If you are happy that having a massive gap in your CV won't affect you then you have your answer :)
Its who you know, how many @rs'les have you seen in jobs just because daddy had them in, mully plough on with what you are doing on here, stay off the tread mill, i was 22 years on the hamsters wheel, and by god its nice to be off it.
Betfairy-If I can help it, I never intend to grace that niche of society again. I worked in the main with lazy automatons who just lived for the weekend and getting sloshed. Working in finance, in an office environment was the most soul destroying thing I ever did. I'm glad I got my University education and broadened my horizons, but it didn't bring me one jot of happiness in the workplace.
You find these days that those who know the least seem to land cushy little numbers, whilst those who know the job the most end up at the bottom of the pile. Never again ;-)
You find these days that those who know the least seem to land cushy little numbers, whilst those who know the job the most end up at the bottom of the pile. Never again ;-)
I agree entirely with the gap in ur CV being a problem. I was a mortgage advisor, then I became a financial claims manager which is self employed. I'm only 24 but i've passed CeMap (mortgage quals) and CeFa. (finance) I now work self emplyed for a company called Cartel and also trade on here. If I go for an interview in the future i'll not have a CV gap because i'm 'working' for cartel and I love it.
I'd suggest that's a decent idea. Anyone who can do well on here will tend to be relatively intelligent and be able to pass some exams. It took me 2 years and now I can both trade on here and work for myself.
(apologies for going on a little there, the point is u dnt have to do this 10 hours a day, u can do it part time and still be successful whilst doing a 'job' u enjoy)
I'd suggest that's a decent idea. Anyone who can do well on here will tend to be relatively intelligent and be able to pass some exams. It took me 2 years and now I can both trade on here and work for myself.
(apologies for going on a little there, the point is u dnt have to do this 10 hours a day, u can do it part time and still be successful whilst doing a 'job' u enjoy)
Mully, you are right there. I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments and am currently working towards the same myself.
Sick of my job, really. I'd so much rather have my own complete financial independence. I'm sure I put in as many hours on here/studying as I do at work. It's hard, but if you want it you got to do it.
Sick of my job, really. I'd so much rather have my own complete financial independence. I'm sure I put in as many hours on here/studying as I do at work. It's hard, but if you want it you got to do it.
Test Match Matt
A good response, but at least you like your job and you want to be there, but there are soul destroying jobs out there making money for fat cats living a life of luxury on your back, i also have part time work surveying underground tunnels and bridges, i like it because it challenges my noodle and its semi dangerous so i get a buzz from it.
A good response, but at least you like your job and you want to be there, but there are soul destroying jobs out there making money for fat cats living a life of luxury on your back, i also have part time work surveying underground tunnels and bridges, i like it because it challenges my noodle and its semi dangerous so i get a buzz from it.
Test Match Matt-You're probably right-maybe worth keeping a few irons in the fire at this end.
irons in the fire
That's the point I was trying to make.
That's the point I was trying to make.
get a proper job u liar..if u was realy makin money u wouldnt spend your time moaning about it on here u complete idiot
If you burn your bridges - it makes you more determined to reach the other side.
Burning my bridges [leaving teaching ]was the best move that I ever made.
Burning my bridges [leaving teaching ]was the best move that I ever made.
lol @ ijs. I'm not moaning. The question was about immediate family & friends-obviously lacking in your case? ;-)
Ask them how they feel every month when they see 25%+ taken out of their wage packet in tax to pay for things like the no existent health service and to provide benefts for the hundreds of thousands of scroungers and illegal immigrents.
That should side track them ;-)
That should side track them ;-)
Teach your family how to trade. That should make everyone happy and richer. :D
JOB = Just Over Broke for most people.
Why spend 30/40 years of your life helping someone else achieve their goals.
The sheep analogy is spot on.
They say if you have a 'job' you love, you'll never work another day.
Why spend 30/40 years of your life helping someone else achieve their goals.
The sheep analogy is spot on.
They say if you have a 'job' you love, you'll never work another day.
Get off the treadmill, Thatcher created a society of want and greed so that people will conform to the system otherwise they will lose their house and and cars, just cut out some of the luxuries in life and do some wise investing, first of all get your overheads down, get rid of the TV and licence debt, its full of crap and overpaid idiots, start paying your mortgage debt while the interest rates are low, buy a banger of a car with cheap insurance, feck keeping up with the Joneses, rid youself of credit cards and HP, start living life, work to live not live to work is the moto.
A good thread. Gl everyone involved. Keep making the trading pay!
Ospreyman, some excellent points above! The secret to having money is not what you earn each month, it`s all about keeping control of your overheads. People would be very surprised how far a modest wage can go if they would just limit and control the unneccesary extras they sign up to which then fly out of their account each month as direct debits!
http://green-all-over.blogspot.com/2008/09/keeping-up-appearances.html
"and went to work every day in his spare bedroom with his underpants on"
haha cpfc
haha cpfc
Post Your Reply
Please login to post a reply.
Wonder
Instance ID: 13539