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i-only-lay
13 Jan 10 15:05
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I price up matches using current season league form and anything that has a lay price of 50 ticks or more lower than the price i have i lay it, if a team has a back price of 50 ticks or more than the price i have then i back it.

Only premiership games! (might look into other leagues at some point)

This weekends bets below...

BACKS

Stoke @ 6.40
Hull @ 14.00
Bolton @ 7.00
Everton Draw @ 3.40
Blackburn Draw @ 3.35


LAYS

Liverpool @ 1.70
Pompy Draw @ 3.45
Wolves Draw @ 3.45
Arsenal @ 1.57
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Report i-only-lay January 14, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
stoke now into 5.00 to back and liverpool out to 1.94 to lay ;-)

market was way wrong and still is, still huge value in stoke @ 4/1 and anything odds on lay of liverpool is value
Report tobermory January 14, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
Good Luck with this

I like Liverpool at Odds On myself :) .Mainly i think i differ in that i don't rate current form as such a big factor . Laying Liverpool last few months would have made people plenty , but the prices being offerd might be getting too generous now.
Report ToomesyLUFC January 14, 2010 5:58 AM GMT
What 'do you do' to 'price up the odds'?
Report i-only-lay January 14, 2010 2:21 PM GMT
liverpool now out to 2.18 to lay and stoke 4.20 to back ;-)

the huge cok up was there clear as day and i spotted it a mile away

the market still isnt correct so still value in backing stoke but not much laying liverpool
Report buzzer January 14, 2010 2:27 PM GMT
the market moved so much because of the injuries, and confirmed absence, of Torres and Gerrard
Report i-only-lay January 14, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
it was priced wrongly from the outset

it is still wrong for torres and gerrard playing , the fact they are both out with benayoun out also stoke are favs to win this over liverpool

i know instantly when a price is way out of line and this is one of those times, too many just going on liverpools reputations and name, fact is the

anyone who thinks liverpool are 2.5 x more likely to win this match than stoke know nothing about football ;-)
Report buzzer January 14, 2010 2:42 PM GMT
the fact is though, and you made a good call, if Liverpool had won yesterday and Torres and Gerrard were fit Liverpool would have been around 1.7-1.8 to win at Stoke. I don't dispute that price being too short but the major movement came as the announcement was made just like the major movement on Torres being prem top scorer ;)
Report i-only-lay January 14, 2010 2:52 PM GMT
yes i know that m8, my point is liverpool full strenght are not 1.70 to win away at stoke and stoke are not 6.40 to win at home to liverpool
Report buzzer January 14, 2010 2:55 PM GMT
these are all outright lays then?
I apologise i thought you were attempting to trade pre game.
Would you consider backing Liverpool when they reach your value price then?
Report ez January 14, 2010 2:55 PM GMT
the huge cok up was there clear as day and i spotted it a mile away

lol

Have you ever wondered why the layers seem to continue making similar "cok ups" year after year?

I agree the Stoke price was and probably still is value but dont fool yourself into thinking you have spotted a massive bookie error
Report i-only-lay January 14, 2010 3:32 PM GMT
buzzer i will trade accordingly, plan is to make money and would be stupid not to take the free money now, but the majority of profit will be the stoke win and the draw
Report i-only-lay January 14, 2010 3:37 PM GMT
ez im not fooling myself into anything, stoke are nowhere near 6.40 to beat liverpool at home!!!!


i know the true price of a stoke victory ;-), like i said i like 50 ticks margin in value to make up for the times im out abit, im getting well over 200 ticks value

stoke may not win but have more than a 15.62% chance of doing so
Report ez January 14, 2010 4:07 PM GMT
I agree that Stoke are prob value at the current price and were massive at 6.0+ but my point was its not a bookie cok up as you said.

They know what they are doing when they price up like that. They know what Liverpools true price is and they know what they can get away with putting Liverpool at.

It is only because the world and his wife want to back Stoke today that they have had to cut.
Report jinkin January 14, 2010 5:59 PM GMT
Would you agree that there is still value in backing stoke, with a view to trade later, or this will be more or less the SP?
Report tobermory January 14, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
Liverpool a great bet at odds against
Report The Visionary January 15, 2010 7:38 AM GMT
How are you defining tick here? 50 seems a huge amount.
Report tobermory January 15, 2010 7:52 PM GMT
presumably he means 6.50 - 6.00

not how i would define it either
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