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By:
pumpkinslayer
When: 03 Mar 07 12:06
It won't work unless the odds of the draw at half time are incorrect. If you blindly do this you will lose longterm.
By:
flatliner
When: 03 Mar 07 12:08
Howl at the moon!
By:
pike
When: 03 Mar 07 12:08
Its quite heartwarming to see there are total numptys out there like Dinosaur...makes it easier for us normal people to win
By:
freddo
When: 03 Mar 07 12:16
this has been absolutely enlightening - Dino please heed previous advice and give all your attentions to a woman friend - seriously, it will save you a fortune.
By:
only the brave
When: 03 Mar 07 12:19
It's only a matter of time Angoose before I catch one of these jackpots then I'll return to the forum to post my good news! This strategy is open to all, good fishing!

You hoping that 10 minutes after a team scores the ref suddenly decides, ah stuff it im not giving the goal!!

psml
By:
IanP
When: 03 Mar 07 13:07
I hope I live long enough to see you post when you cop the jackpot.
By:
bakewell38
When: 03 Mar 07 13:15
Absolutely hilarious thread .Well done.
By:
IanP
When: 03 Mar 07 13:44
Unlucky again, Dinosaur ?
By:
Dinosaur
When: 03 Mar 07 14:03
Hi Folks,

I don't believe you guys! What a bunch of doubting Thomas's! I glad you found my posts entertaining, now I have the last laugh!

PROOF!

Liverpool v Man U has just finished. At HT the score was 0 - 0 and the Lay odds were 1.78. Read Steven's letter, this was a classic game for his system.

Man U scored with five mins to go and I watched the Back odds climb to 100 with 2 mins of play time left.

Go on, work out how much profit you could have made today if you had you Layed the Draw @ 1.38 then Backed it later @ 100 then greened up.

I did allright. I layed the Draw @ 3.2 before the game and Backed it a few moments ago @ 15.5 then greened up. I also backed the 0 - 0 draw @ 8.0 and Layed it later @ 3.00, again greening up. How much I won is of no consequence, the point is this system works!

The joke's on you guys, see you around! Ha, ha, ha...!

Dino :o)
By:
p2p
When: 03 Mar 07 14:09
u won nothing as THE GAME DID NOT END IN A DRAW. :)
By:
pike
When: 03 Mar 07 14:09
Tool
By:
Dutchy Schwarz
When: 03 Mar 07 14:10
At HT the score was 0 - 0 and the Lay odds were 1.78.

At HT? hmmm
By:
Dinosaur
When: 03 Mar 07 14:29
p2p, you can't be serious!

You said; "u won nothing as THE GAME DID NOT END IN A DRAW"

To clarify!

I said, time and again, AFTER Backing the Draw I GREENED UP! You do that by downloading the FREE software from Bet Angel Basic.

Before you post again, check it out. Then come back with an apology, if you've got the guts!

Dino :o)
By:
p2p
When: 03 Mar 07 14:31
my apologies i thought, u were having money for nothing on the draw
By:
pike
When: 03 Mar 07 14:34
You still havent explained why you would back 0-0 when the score was 1-0

And why you would have won thousands last night on Derby being a draw, when they actually won 5-1...

When you can answer these questiions people may stoplaughing at you
By:
Dinosaur
When: 03 Mar 07 14:49
That's right Dutchy Schwarz,

At HT (Half-Time) the score was 0 - 0 and the Lay odds were 1.78.

That's exactly the point Steven was making above. He said wait until HT. If the score is 0 - 0 then Lay it as you'll get better value. I agree with his logic. But having researched the stats, I find only 1 in 10 games soccer matches end in a 0 - 0 draw, so I prefer to Lay my bets before a match and pay the extra.

TIP?
In a couple of hours, Portsmouth are playing Chelsea. The chances of this game ending in a 0 - 0 is remote. So you could Back the 0 - 0 Draw now @ 12.00 for safety, then Lay the Draw @ 4.10. The minute a goal is scored, Back the Draw, then GREEN UP!

Alternatively, you could just watch the screen as the match unfolds and see what I mean. Once Chelsea are 2 or 3 goals ahead, the Back bet will rocket to a 1000 and the market will collapse. So, grab your profits at the first opportunity.

I'll be back after the match, good luck!

Dino :o)
By:
The Betf
When: 03 Mar 07 14:57
Blimey Dinosaur! I wish I could predict the future as well as you do. But then again I remember the past. Only two weeks ago there were two 0-0 draws in a row, followed by a 0-1 with a goal in the last seconds. Now, if only I had layed the draw just before the goal....
By:
Dinosaur
When: 03 Mar 07 15:09
Ok Pike,

I owe you an explanation. I did write some pretty long posts on this topic prior to this and there were one or two unintentional typographical errors, for which I apologise. There's no Editing button here to correct mistakes! lol

You said...
1) You still havent explained why you would back 0-0 when the score was 1-0.

I Backed 0 - 0 when the score was 1 - 0 precisely because a team scored. I had already previously Layed the Draw.

All the way through a match the Score price drops, both Back and Lay. When a goal is scored the Back odds increase and allows you to make a profit.

If you still think the game will result in a draw, 1 -1, etc. you could just leave your bet to ride. i.e. a free bet.

2) And why you would have won thousands last night on Derby being a draw, when they actually won 5-1...

Have just answered this but to reiterate. If I thought the Derby match was going to end in a Draw I could have left my bet to ride. Usual practise is to wait for a goal then take the Back odds offered.

However, sometimes it's fun to speculate (which I do) and just leave the bet on. The Back odds can drift out to 1000, that's 999 -1. Amazing! If you've got the nerve to wait and speculate, then you can take the Back price @ 1000, GREEN UP, and pocket the difference.

Hence I say it's only a matter of time before I do this and
people will stop laughing!

Have fun,

Dino :o)
By:
Dinosaur
When: 03 Mar 07 15:15
Hi The Betfairy,

Thanks for your thoughts. I too haven't got a crystal ball, in your case a wand, which is why I said 'The chances of this game ending in a 0 - 0 is remote.' Probabilty based on stats, definately NOT certainty!

Best wishes,

Dino :o)
By:
the witch
When: 03 Mar 07 15:29
"I Backed 0 - 0 when the score was 1 - 0 precisely because a team scored. I had already previously Layed the Draw. "

WTF ?
By:
The Betf
When: 03 Mar 07 15:31
This is the most surreal thread for ages.
:)
By:
pike
When: 03 Mar 07 15:39
So you actually admit placing money on a match being 0-0 , even after a goal has been scored..I thought you were having a laugh, but you seem serious..

This thread is the most surreal thing Ive ever read...
By:
Dutchy Schwarz
When: 03 Mar 07 15:41
It's certainly thinking outside of the box! ;)
By:
im allin
When: 03 Mar 07 16:09
Well done Dinasour you are now officially the thickest poster on the Betfair forum. You managed to beat some strong competition are you also a Money Saving Expert by any chance ?
By:
lagonda
When: 03 Mar 07 16:54
Dinosaur ? wtf...you some sort of cnut ?????
By:
only the brave
When: 03 Mar 07 17:04
Chelsea are 1-0 up so if i back the 0-0 now what are my chances :D

You couldnt make this up lolololol
By:
viva el presidente!
When: 03 Mar 07 17:19
dinosaur: check out the betting forum at moneysavingexpert - you will fit right in.
By:
Dinosaur
When: 03 Mar 07 17:25
Hi Only The Brave,

You missed the boat buddy! I advised you Lay the Draw before the match. I did this @ 4.0 and when Chelsea scored their goal I then Backed the Draw @ 8.00. Then I greened up and now await a profit from this game whatever the result.

Anyone watching this game progress on their screen will see events have happened exactly as I surmised and advised. There's the PROOF!

I'm at a loss to understand why you other guys can't see the obvious. I'm not a nut, just using it! It's called Betfair Trading as opposed to gambling!

Be back after the game. Very interested to see if the Back Draw bet hits over 100 as Man U did!

Dino :o)
By:
SILKY CALLING OBEONE
When: 03 Mar 07 17:30
Dinosaur, what would you have done if there had been an equaliser b4 the market had been unsuspended ?
By:
pike
When: 03 Mar 07 17:36
I think its wrong to heap personal abuse on here, but in this case I think an exception should be made...


C O C K
By:
aziraphale
When: 03 Mar 07 17:42
Go on, work out how much profit you could have made today if you had you Layed the Draw @ 1.38 then Backed it later @ 100 then greened up.

What on earth do you mean "and then greened up". You can't use the vast profit on the draw to "green up" if the odds are 100 or 1000....
By:
IanP
When: 03 Mar 07 17:43
You've gone against the system - when Chelsea went 1-0 up, you should have backed 0-0. How else are you going to win that 50,000 ? You are probably only all green for 5 your way.
By:
ALI BABA
When: 03 Mar 07 17:45
This is not a good thread to read straight after having your gall bladder removed. I have laughed so much I think I need my stitches redone.
By:
Dinosaur
When: 03 Mar 07 18:00
Hi Dario exposed as iron,

You asked; "Dinosaur, what would you have done if there had been an equaliser b4 the market had been unsuspended ?".

There's no such situation as 'unsuspended'. I'll take that as a typo and assume you mean SUSPENDED. A market is suspended immediately a goal is scored or a red card is given. A 1 - 1 draw cannot accur whilst the match is SUSPENDED as the match has been stopped by the ref.

As for Pike and others who post here simply to be rude, I wish to remind you that if you disagree with 'the plan', then attack the plan not the man!

If there's something you don't understand feel free to ask questions, ok! Read Steven's letter again, all the information regarding what I'm talking about is in his letter!

Dino :o)
By:
tigertiger
When: 03 Mar 07 18:04
"Go on, work out how much profit you could have made today if you had you Layed the Draw @ 1.38 then Backed it later @ 100 then greened up. "

OK I lay 100 @ 1.38 ... if I am going to "green up" by backing the draw I end up betting 1.38 @ 100 to have a greened up profit at 93.69 after commission irespective of the result. Or I could put
100 on the draw to get a profit of 9368.9 in the unlikely event that it is a draw ... but nothing otherwise. So how will you make thousands if it is not a draw?
By:
IanP
When: 03 Mar 07 18:04
Steven's letter says lay the draw at HT. You've not done that once. Did you pay much for Steven's advice ? I should contact him again - I'm sure he can come up with another strategy for you at the right price.
By:
spanker
When: 03 Mar 07 18:22
dinosaur, there have been a lot of stupid people on this forum, but you are, by far, the worst.

and the biggest problem is, you actually believe what you are typing!!

explain to us how you would have won thousands on the derby game.

You can't.

you are a moron.
By:
aziraphale
When: 03 Mar 07 18:28
There's no such situation as 'unsuspended'. I'll take that as a typo and assume you mean SUSPENDED. A market is suspended immediately a goal is scored or a red card is given. A 1 - 1 draw cannot accur whilst the match is SUSPENDED as the match has been stopped by the ref.


No, he means "unsuspended", i.e. put back in play. Several times I have seen another goal scored before the market has been turned back in play on Betfair. It can take up to a minute for the market to return.
By:
Dutchy Schwarz
When: 03 Mar 07 18:30
Like Man Utd., the other night.... 1,2,3
By:
benji26
When: 03 Mar 07 18:30
I think its wrong to heap personal abuse on here, but in this case I think an exception should be made...


C O C K

lol
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