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Just googled someone here uses similar:
Modified Dawson
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k, here it is, the best system I know.
To start off with, one or two principles, and some background. The system is my variation of the Dawson system, as advertised in full page adverts on the back of the old Sporting Chronicle Handbook, circa late '60s to early '70s. System cost me a fiver in 1972.
Most commercially hyped systems are merely variations on the Dawson theme.
Dawson said you need a bank of 2000 points. I use a bank of 1000 points, because less risk.
You MUST keep a record of every day's betting.
1) Method of selection can be a good rating system (Timeform, Massey, your paper's Spotform, whatever), and the top rated is the selection; OR you can use the forecast 2nd favs in your paper.Dawson used Speed Plus in the old, much lamented, sorely missed Sporting Chronicle.
2) Principal meeting of the day only. The Daily Mail tells you which is the principal meeting (usually), it says it beside the meeting. If you are not sure which is the principal meeting, look at the prize money for each race and you'll quickly work out which is the most valuable meeting of the day.
3) If a selection is forecast as less than 3/1, Dawson said no bet. However, in practise, I will regard 11/4 or 5/2 as being 3/1. I will win less on any particular day if one of those comes in, but it doesn't matter overall. But DO NOT bet on anything less than 5/2. Skip the race if less than 5/2.
4)The target to win is 5 points per race. Maximum 6 races per day. SO what I do is make the target 30 points (6x5), and stop at the first winner. That's it for the day.
5) In the first race, divide the target (30) by the odds of the first selection. Your stake is the target divided by the odds, so 30 divided by 5/1 would make a stake of 6 points for first race.
However, FIRST, check the current odds on Oddschecker. If the odds are LESS than forecast in the paper, adjust the stake upwards, i.e. if the paper f'cast was 6/1, but the odds on show are 4/1, you would stake 8 points (4x8=32, which is nearest to 30 point target), rather than 6 points.
If the odds are GREATER than forecast in your paper, use the paper odds. I.E. if your paper says 4/1, but Oddschecker is showing 6/1, leave the stake as 8 points, don't adjust to 5.
The reason: when one of your selections comes in at greater odds than forecast, which happens on average once a week at least, you get a huge boost to profits, with only a small increase in stakes. Likewise, there is only a small increase in stakes to ensure you hit your target when odds are less than f'cast.
6) Go on through the card, max 6 races, working out what your stake would be on each selection if it lost. For each race you are adding the previous race's loss to your original target of 30 points.
7) Stop at first winner. That's it for the day.
8) IF YOU HAVE A DAY WITHOUT A WINNER: the next day, cut the amount you lost (NOT the total aim that was left at the end of the day) in half. This half is your new target aim at the start of day 2. Say you lost 60 points in stakes on day 1 - 30 points is your target for day 2.
9) IF DAY 2 IS ALSO WITHOUT A WINNER, again chop the amount of points lost on previous day in half, and that will be your new aim. But you stop betting until you see the system selections have a winner again. Just watch day by day until you see that winning selection (at least 5/2 odds).
10) Never let your target for the day be more than 40 points.
You will find that you have long winning runs, that losing days are few, and that you sometimes get incredible bonuses. During the trial run on the other forum, I won 140 points one day, because the winning selection had slipped out from 4/1 to 9/1 in the betting.
There's prob a bit more to it, but that's about it. Expect to win at least 50 points per week on average.
Modified Dawson
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k, here it is, the best system I know.
To start off with, one or two principles, and some background. The system is my variation of the Dawson system, as advertised in full page adverts on the back of the old Sporting Chronicle Handbook, circa late '60s to early '70s. System cost me a fiver in 1972.
Most commercially hyped systems are merely variations on the Dawson theme.
Dawson said you need a bank of 2000 points. I use a bank of 1000 points, because less risk.
You MUST keep a record of every day's betting.
1) Method of selection can be a good rating system (Timeform, Massey, your paper's Spotform, whatever), and the top rated is the selection; OR you can use the forecast 2nd favs in your paper.Dawson used Speed Plus in the old, much lamented, sorely missed Sporting Chronicle.
2) Principal meeting of the day only. The Daily Mail tells you which is the principal meeting (usually), it says it beside the meeting. If you are not sure which is the principal meeting, look at the prize money for each race and you'll quickly work out which is the most valuable meeting of the day.
3) If a selection is forecast as less than 3/1, Dawson said no bet. However, in practise, I will regard 11/4 or 5/2 as being 3/1. I will win less on any particular day if one of those comes in, but it doesn't matter overall. But DO NOT bet on anything less than 5/2. Skip the race if less than 5/2.
4)The target to win is 5 points per race. Maximum 6 races per day. SO what I do is make the target 30 points (6x5), and stop at the first winner. That's it for the day.
5) In the first race, divide the target (30) by the odds of the first selection. Your stake is the target divided by the odds, so 30 divided by 5/1 would make a stake of 6 points for first race.
However, FIRST, check the current odds on Oddschecker. If the odds are LESS than forecast in the paper, adjust the stake upwards, i.e. if the paper f'cast was 6/1, but the odds on show are 4/1, you would stake 8 points (4x8=32, which is nearest to 30 point target), rather than 6 points.
If the odds are GREATER than forecast in your paper, use the paper odds. I.E. if your paper says 4/1, but Oddschecker is showing 6/1, leave the stake as 8 points, don't adjust to 5.
The reason: when one of your selections comes in at greater odds than forecast, which happens on average once a week at least, you get a huge boost to profits, with only a small increase in stakes. Likewise, there is only a small increase in stakes to ensure you hit your target when odds are less than f'cast.
6) Go on through the card, max 6 races, working out what your stake would be on each selection if it lost. For each race you are adding the previous race's loss to your original target of 30 points.
7) Stop at first winner. That's it for the day.
8) IF YOU HAVE A DAY WITHOUT A WINNER: the next day, cut the amount you lost (NOT the total aim that was left at the end of the day) in half. This half is your new target aim at the start of day 2. Say you lost 60 points in stakes on day 1 - 30 points is your target for day 2.
9) IF DAY 2 IS ALSO WITHOUT A WINNER, again chop the amount of points lost on previous day in half, and that will be your new aim. But you stop betting until you see the system selections have a winner again. Just watch day by day until you see that winning selection (at least 5/2 odds).
10) Never let your target for the day be more than 40 points.
You will find that you have long winning runs, that losing days are few, and that you sometimes get incredible bonuses. During the trial run on the other forum, I won 140 points one day, because the winning selection had slipped out from 4/1 to 9/1 in the betting.
There's prob a bit more to it, but that's about it. Expect to win at least 50 points per week on average.
Dress up as a woman and play the piano badly before placing bets?
this is the thread i got modified dawson system from:
http://www.uk-betting-tips.co.uk/showthread.php?t=15448
http://www.uk-betting-tips.co.uk/showthread.php?t=15448
Be careful it does not lead you to the poorhouse?
it could work fine, but sooner or later you would need a huge bank to see it through,
remember his advert, same place on page 3 every week in the Sporting Chronicle Handicap Book,
very cleverly worded, and always had winners to advertise, and failed to mention the losers of course !
remember his advert, same place on page 3 every week in the Sporting Chronicle Handicap Book,
very cleverly worded, and always had winners to advertise, and failed to mention the losers of course !
I also got stung by this. He had 2 systems, the other was the most popular tipped of the day. The wording implied but never said that you just backed one horse per day. Legalised robbery !!!! but another part of my learning curve.
Eventual destination The Poor House I think but good luck anyway.
Me and my dad used the Dawson system when I was a nipper and wet behind the ears.
We started with a tenner and built it up to a about 300 but then got filled in one very wet York ebor meeting without a winner over the three days.
My father was willling to stump up the cash to keep it going, and I told him not too we'd only done a tenner, the next horse in the first race on the friday won at 7/2.
We started with a tenner and built it up to a about 300 but then got filled in one very wet York ebor meeting without a winner over the three days.
My father was willling to stump up the cash to keep it going, and I told him not too we'd only done a tenner, the next horse in the first race on the friday won at 7/2.
It's a kind of Martingale isn't it? You have a target per race and after a loser you stake enough to win the money you've already lost plus the target amounts you've missed. Then when you have a winner you get all the money you've lost plus the profits targetted previously. Unfortunately sooner or later you will hit the inevitable losing run, and the amounts you have to bet become very large.
When my brother in law bought the system back in the seventies, he thought he'd be a millionaire by the following year.
He wasn't.
When my brother in law bought the system back in the seventies, he thought he'd be a millionaire by the following year.
He wasn't.
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