New thread concentrating on fixed prices on the four English leagues. All bets at match odds, let's see how it goes. Staking between 1 and 3 points depending on prices.
Sheffield Wednesday (7/2) at Bristol City. 1.5 points Sheffield Wednesday to draw (5/2) at Bristol City 1.5 points Brighton (5/4) v Hartlepool 2.5 points Hereford (10/11) v Darlington 3 points Morecambe (13/10) v Lincoln 2.5 points Torquay Un (8/5) v Northampton 2.5 points
13.5 points staked. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Snooker Oracle 30 Oct 22:22
You'll get 10/1 on Sheff Wednesday tomorrow if the team news is true! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kenilworth 31 Oct 19:19
A pleasing start. 4 wins from 6 picks (2 in the same match) A profit of 9.73 points on the day. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mudflaps 31 Oct 19:33
Very good start Ken well done ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kenilworth 02 Nov 17:32
Only bet for me would be Sheffield United at 15/8 but unfortunately that price is not available on the High Street (9/5 best), therefore no bet on this thread. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maurice365 02 Nov 18:36
good start, lad
i'll leave you alone this time -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kenilworth 02 Nov 18:39
Maurice, join in by all means, it sometimes gets a bit lonely. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tunisiano 03 Nov 17:36
hello guys do you know , how long we need to stay for credited an account when we payed by Cheque and not with credit card ...
I wait an answer , thanks guys ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kenilworth 04 Nov 16:43
Only bet for me would be Aston Villa at 3.0 on here, but unfortunately that price is not available on the High Street (13/8 best), therefore no bet on this thread. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Blackburn (11/10) v Portsmouth 3 points Man City (4/11) v Burnley 3 points Scunthorpe (4/1) at Blackpool 1.5 points Blackpool v Scunthorpe to Draw (5/2) 1.5 points Chesterfield (13/10) v Bournemouth 2.5 points Cheltenham (12/5) at Torquay 1.5 points Torquay v Cheltenham to draw (5/2) 1.5 points 14.5 points staked.
Blackburn (11/10) v Portsmouth 3 pointsMan City (4/11) v Burnley 3 pointsScunthorpe (4/1) at Blackpool 1.5 pointsBlackpool v Scunthorpe to Draw (5/2) 1.5 pointsChesterfield (13/10) v Bournemouth 2.5 pointsCheltenham (12/5) at Torquay 1.5 pointsTorqu
derby was a good pick ken, they looked poor in what i saw of the qpr game. not much i fancy today but bournemouth are missing a few and i'm having a little on chesterfield
derby was a good pick ken, they looked poor in what i saw of the qpr game. not much i fancy today but bournemouth are missing a few and i'm having a little on chesterfield
Bradford (8/5) v Bournemouth 2.5 points Shrewsbury (5/6) v Torquay 3 points Macclesfield (7/2) at Aldershotl 1.5 points Aldershot v Macclesfield to Draw (5/2) 1.5 points
8.5 points staked
Bradford (8/5) v Bournemouth 2.5 pointsShrewsbury (5/6) v Torquay 3 pointsMacclesfield (7/2) at Aldershotl 1.5 pointsAldershot v Macclesfield to Draw (5/2) 1.5 points8.5 points staked
Treble, I'm deliberately concentrating on book prices rather than Exchange prices, and there will be times it goes against me, as is the case today with Shrewsbury (touching 2.0 now) Regards the draw prices, one is 3.3 and the other 3.85 on here, yet 3.50 with the books !
Treble, I'm deliberately concentrating on book prices rather than Exchange prices, and there will be times it goes against me, as is the case today with Shrewsbury (touching 2.0 now) Regards the draw prices, one is 3.3 and the other 3.85 on here, yet
Sure. Do you subscribe to the theory that in the long run you will need to be beating the exchange closing prices more often than not to turn a profit Ken?
Sure. Do you subscribe to the theory that in the long run you will need to be beating the exchange closing prices more often than not to turn a profit Ken?
You would think so I suppose, although there are times when the Exchanges, the spreads and the books are well apart from each other, so the best price should suffice. Strange one at Shrewsbury today, drifting on here, yet hardening on the spreads. I have them a 4/6 chance therfore 5/6 seemed a good price. Hard to figure at times !!
You would think so I suppose, although there are times when the Exchanges, the spreads and the books are well apart from each other, so the best price should suffice. Strange one at Shrewsbury today, drifting on here, yet hardening on the spreads. I
I can see the logic for a little torquay support in the "small picture" - recent games. Also torquay have been punted and won a couple of times recently - I think that affects market prices. However I can also understand shrews being 4/6, 8/11 here, not evens.
I can see the logic for a little torquay support in the "small picture" - recent games. Also torquay have been punted and won a couple of times recently - I think that affects market prices. However I can also understand shrews being 4/6, 8/11 here,
well played. i didn't think new manager syndrome would have that much effect in 3 days, would give me the hump if i was a supporter, or the outgoing manager..
well played. i didn't think new manager syndrome would have that much effect in 3 days, would give me the hump if i was a supporter, or the outgoing manager..
Aston Villa (5/4) at Burnley 3 points win Reading (5/4) v Blackpool 3 points win Scunthorpe (9/2) at Watford 1.5 points win Watford v Scunthorpe to Draw (13/5) 1.5 points win Brighton (14/5) v Leeds 1.5 points win Brighton v Leeds to draw (11/4) 1.5 points win Stockport (8/5) v Exeter 2.5 points win Notts County (8/13) v Aldershot 3 points win
17.5 points staked
Aston Villa (5/4) at Burnley 3 points winReading (5/4) v Blackpool 3 points winScunthorpe (9/2) at Watford 1.5 points winWatford v Scunthorpe to Draw (13/5) 1.5 points winBrighton (14/5) v Leeds 1.5 points winBrighton v Leeds to draw (11/4) 1.5 point
Man C (3/10) V Hull C 3 points Portsmouth (9/1) v ManU 0.5 points Scunthorpe (9/4) v Leicester C 2 points Sheffield Wed (5/2) v West Brom 1.5 points Brentford (13/10) v Walsall 2.5 points MK Dons (4/6) v Exeter City 3 points
Total staked 13.5 points staked
Man C (3/10) V Hull C 3 points Portsmouth (9/1) v ManU 0.5 points Scunthorpe (9/4) v Leicester C 2 points Sheffield Wed (5/2) v West Brom 1.5 pointsBrentford (13/10) v Walsall 2.5 pointsMK Dons (4/6) v Exeter City 3 pointsTotal staked 13.5 points st
I'll have another go. Ken, could you please clarify why you use different staking on your selections?
DaveEdwards 30 Nov 19:51 Ken, could you please clarify why you use different staking on your selections? ...............................................................................I'll have another go. Ken, could you please clarify why you us
In 44 bets your at minus 14 i don't mean to gloat but as your always having a do at me i made over 100 points profit in 44 bets that was in my thread on this forum, so please don't have a go at me about my betting ken when you obviously do not have any ground to.
You really need to look at your staking plan and a bit of insight as to how you come to your selections wouldn't go a miss.
All the best mate. :D
In 44 bets your at minus 14 i don't mean to gloat but as your always having a do at me i made over 100 points profit in 44 bets that was in my thread on this forum, so please don't have a go at me about my betting ken when you obviously do not have a
u want some, I've just one thing to say to you. Show me your thread with 44 bets, 100 point profit, every bet posted before the event and I will not only quit this forum but I will quit betting.
u want some, I've just one thing to say to you. Show me your thread with 44 bets, 100 point profit, every bet posted before the event and I will not only quit this forum but I will quit betting.
For what it is worth, I am paper trading an idea comparing professional ratings against the high street market. When there is a big enough diff then I have a bet. This worked ok for the first 3 months of the season, but since posting the qualifiers on here, it has disappointed but I will press on for a while. If I get any hassle I will quit.
For what it is worth, I am paper trading an idea comparing professional ratings against the high street market. When there is a big enough diff then I have a bet. This worked ok for the first 3 months of the season, but since posting the qualifiers o
I enjoy reading and threads like this, I have just started my own thread..lay the away side.
No doubt I will get some stick/hassle but I have been looking into this "system" for a few months, as you have said a soon as you post the selections it seems to all go wrong :(
Stick at it and GL
:)
Keep it going Ken,I enjoy reading and threads like this, I have just started my own thread..lay the away side.No doubt I will get some stick/hassle but I have been looking into this "system" for a few months, as you have said a soon as you post the s
Brighton(23/10) V Charlton 1.5 points Brighton v Charlton to draw (5/2) 1.5 points Bristol R (20/21) v Exeter C 3 points Stockport C (12/5) v Swindon T 2 points Dagenham & R (10/11) v Aldershot 3 points
Total staked 11 points.
Brighton(23/10) V Charlton 1.5 points Brighton v Charlton to draw (5/2) 1.5 points Bristol R (20/21) v Exeter C 3 points Stockport C (12/5) v Swindon T 2 pointsDagenham & R (10/11) v Aldershot 3 pointsTotal staked 11 points.
Unlike u want some you clearly update after losers and post all your selections before the event.
The forum is a graveyard to his half finished posts which for some reason seem to drift to the bottom when the losers arrive.
Also unlike u want some i`m sure you would`nt post a 60/1 7 team winning acca with one selection to go.
Gl.
Ken keep it going.Unlike u want some you clearly update after losers and post all your selections before the event.The forum is a graveyard to his half finished posts which for some reason seem to drift to the bottom when the losers arrive.Also unlik
Yes , I agree 100% with the other 2 ..keep it going
although I wouldn't blame you for stopping it ..because is it worth the hassle ?
far too many folk on these forums seem quite preapred to stick in the knife ...when people are losing
I don't see things (from a betting perspective ) with Ken ...me for me thats what the forum should be about ..views
but coming on**ging people ...cause they are losing ...is so wrong
Yes , I agree 100% with the other 2 ..keep it goingalthough I wouldn't blame you for stopping it ..because is it worth the hassle ? far too many folk on these forums seem quite preapred to stick in the knife ...when people are losing I don't see thin
oh I see now, you're only paper trading and then when you see value you use REAL money. That explains it ll. I bet all your losers were paper trades and your winners were actual money bets. Well done and keep it up
oh I see now, you're only paper trading and then when you see value you use REAL money. That explains it ll. I bet all your losers were paper trades and your winners were actual money bets. Well done and keep it up
Ken, it's nearly always the way it goes, the moment someone starts posting their previously winning selections on the forum, then they start to got tits up.
You seem like a careful and considered bettor, and they're not too many of those that bother to post, so good luck to you. Onwards and upwards for you, I'm sure. And don't let the (generally losing) detractors get to you.
:-)
Ken, it's nearly always the way it goes, the moment someone starts posting their previously winning selections on the forum, then they start to got tits up.You seem like a careful and considered bettor, and they're not too many of those that bother t
the reason I am having a go at Kenilworth is because he ALWAYS pokes his nose in on other threads to bleat on about staking plans,value,discipline blah blah ** blah Then he puts a thread up, loses a huge points based fortune then syas he was only paper trading ffs
the reason I am having a go at Kenilworth is because he ALWAYS pokes his nose in on other threads to bleat on about staking plans,value,discipline blah blah ** blahThen he puts a thread up, loses a huge points based fortune then syas he was only pape
Loss today of 3.15 points. Bets 48 Staked 100 points Balance - 18.68 points
That will do for me, I'm not putting up with sh!ts from a couple of idiots. This forum has gone.
Loss today of 3.15 points.Bets 48Staked 100 pointsBalance - 18.68 pointsThat will do for me, I'm not putting up with sh!ts from a couple of idiots.This forum has gone.
Paper trading after the thread has started? And you have the audacity to have a go at other people?
Worked for three months, you post and it loses?
I'd be astounded if you made money on betfair.
Paper trading after the thread has started? And you have the audacity to have a go at other people?Worked for three months, you post and it loses?I'd be astounded if you made money on betfair.
SAY'S BETFAIRY WHO POSTS ON EVERY SINGLE THREAD I MAKE. KEN YOU CANNOT MAKE A PROFIT AS YOU HAVE PROVED SO GIVE IT UP
BETFAIRY THE MUG, I LONG FOR YOU TO TIP SOMETHING ON THE FORUM BUT IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
ANOTHER DREAMER WHO DOESN'T BET YET IS HAPPY TO HAVE A GO AT PEOPLE THAT DO BET
WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND
:D :D :D
SAY'S BETFAIRY WHO POSTS ON EVERY SINGLE THREAD I MAKE. KEN YOU CANNOT MAKE A PROFIT AS YOU HAVE PROVED SO GIVE IT UPBETFAIRY THE MUG, I LONG FOR YOU TO TIP SOMETHING ON THE FORUM BUT IT WILL NEVER HAPPENANOTHER DREAMER WHO DOESN'T BET YET IS HAPPY T
So being down after that many is no problem at all , particulary as the selections are , on average , significantly odds against ( as in the short term a losing run is more likely).
It's only 48 bets :|So being down after that many is no problem at all , particulary as the selections are , on average , significantly odds against ( as in the short term a losing run is more likely).
keep going Ken ignore the idiots who expect instant profits and Loch Ness Monsters. I was very interested in this thread because his picks are based on value and wrong prices rather than his own personal views on the games. I wanted to see long-term if this was profitable and 48 bets is certainly not long-term.
keep going Ken ignore the idiots who expect instant profits and Loch Ness Monsters. I was very interested in this thread because his picks are based on value and wrong prices rather than his own personal views on the games. I wanted to see long-term
people that paper trade and investigate new ideas/strategies are intelligent/creative people. Folk that waste money chasing rainbows without doing a thorough Betfair education have limited knowledge and little imagination.
people that paper trade and investigate new ideas/strategies are intelligent/creative people. Folk that waste money chasing rainbows without doing a thorough Betfair education have limited knowledge and little imagination.
To the intellectual giants who feel that I am an idiot please consider the following:
1) In both threads by Ken he did not open up with an explanation that this was a paper exercise.
2) He posted the fact that this was an exercise after there was a negative return.
3) He is always very quick to have a go at anyone that he deems to be aftertiming.
4) He has a terrible attitude to other posters. He is of the opinion that he is always correct and that anybody that has a different view on betting is either wrong or an idiot. The patronising manner with which he makes his thoughts known is offensive.
Whenever I have made postings, which by the way I do try to make in a helpful manner to other forum users most of the time the cr*p that I get back from Ken is ridiculous. At least my research is done prior to my posting.
Hope this clarifies my situation regarding this odious person.
To the intellectual giants who feel that I am an idiot please consider the following:1) In both threads by Ken he did not open up with an explanation that this was a paper exercise.2) He posted the fact that this was an exercise after there was a neg
Dave Edwards-you had the audacity to have a go at me the other night for stating the exact same things about u want some-ganging up as you called it.
Why is it ok for you and u want some to have a go at others but not take it back.
This forum has gone completely with idiots like you and u want some (who incidentally will never have any because he in his own words cannot find his best market to bet on-yet is starting a tipping website).
Good luck and good bye i for one will never post on betfair forums again.
Dave Edwards-you had the audacity to have a go at me the other night for stating the exact same things about u want some-ganging up as you called it.Why is it ok for you and u want some to have a go at others but not take it back.This forum has gone
fouraces, my response to Kenilworth is as a direct result of the way that he has been with me.
I agree that people shouldn't gang up on anyone, which was why I said what I did the other evening. I'm not ganging up on Kenilworth. I am stating my thoughts about him and the way he has been with me. If he had taken a more considerate tone in his postings to me then I wouldn't have said what I have done here.
Hope this helps.
fouraces, my response to Kenilworth is as a direct result of the way that he has been with me. I agree that people shouldn't gang up on anyone, which was why I said what I did the other evening. I'm not ganging up on Kenilworth. I am stating my thoug
U Want Some why are you setting up a tipping site? The only people that create tipping sites are losing punters.....(the vast majority anyhow)
why would you want the pressure of finding winners and posting for your customers if you were making a tax free income already? Why not just increase stakes/compound bank to cover the X amount of subscriber's money. People that subscribe to 98% of tipster services need to ask; why are thesepeople giving you their service? The answer is simple, it's because they cannot make it pay themselves, so need your £20 a month to feed their gambling habit.
U Want Some why are you setting up a tipping site? The only people that create tipping sites are losing punters.....(the vast majority anyhow)why would you want the pressure of finding winners and posting for your customers if you were making a tax f
New thread concentrating on fixed prices on the four English leagues. All bets at match odds, let's see how it goes. Staking between 1 and 3 points depending on prices.
Dave Edwards - you queried what criteria K had re his/her staking.................I think it was what he / she posted at start of thread!
I appreciate that K annoys you and others on the way he/she is a bit "patronising" .........NEVER apologises for making a wrong post........................etc etc HE /ssssssher also has annoyed me toooooooo..........
However, he/she is experimenting on "strategies".........which I have no idea what or why he/she chooses such strategies.....and with such "experiments" there is a chance they don't work long or short term.............................. AS IT IS FOOTBALL RELATED, THEN WITH EXPERIMENTS IT MIGHT NOT WORK OUT!. Initially it did ....recently it has not !
All I can say about that is that with HORSE RACING there are certain periods in a year when a strategy works at high level......then at other periods it does not , for reasons that are to do with what happens at certain points in season.
K may well recently been losing with the way he/she selects bets.......but that is not to say he/she may not be winning eventually with the way he/she selects bets.......
I understand why certain posters have been "aggressive" with the way K has posted to their threads.. but I am interested to see how he/she fares with what they are doing.....................and it is a pity that K did not respond to , I thought , a genuine query re STAKING by Mr Edwards........................................but unfortunately K you did not.........just like you never responded to Scotbet by making a simple apology for posting something which was in accurate................................. just appears not to be in your nature to admit you have posted something which is not correct!
I personally believe you are pretty poor on football knowledge............................however, as you rarely express an opinion on what might happen.....and tend to go by spurious stats .....and spurious market odds etc, then my opinion on you is biased ( probably)......you won't give a monkeys what I think anyway , so what is new !!!!!!
The obsession re "after-timing" I think irks many .....as you basically don't give anybody the benefit of doubt.............................
However, you can do what you want , within rules of BF, and I hope you basically IGNORE people like me and some others and do what you want to do....as some people might be interested in what you are trying out!
GL with bets
New thread concentrating on fixed prices on the four English leagues. All bets at match odds, let's see how it goes. Staking between 1 and 3 points depending on prices.===================================================Dave Edwards - you queried what
Interesting to note that those who bemoan the fact that this forum has 'gone' are partly responsible themselves for its demise with their higher than mighty posts on other people's well meaning threads. This forum 'went' a long time ago.
Interesting to note that those who bemoan the fact that this forum has 'gone' are partly responsible themselves for its demise with their higher than mighty posts on other people's well meaning threads. This forum 'went' a long time ago.
would like to see kenilworth post his bets for an entire season. i suspect he'll be about 50-60pts down come may, because as far as i can tell he has no edge, even if he were taking bf prices. i'd be delighted to be proved wrong though.
fwiw, i don't think these kind of threads aren't particularly interesting. people who price football games up without knowing anything much about the teams they're betting on are ten a penny these days. 'my spreadsheet says x team are too big'. fascinating. some may have a smallish edge, no more than 5%, but you need a powerful model to make it pay. four figure stakes and a huge churn of bets are the only way you will make any kind of serious money without putting the work in.
the alternative to the computermen are guys like this.
http://ubet2win.blogspot.com/
proper research and analysis gives you to a proper edge. even if he probably relies on contacts to give him what he needs. there's only so many leagues a person can cover on their own.
would like to see kenilworth post his bets for an entire season. i suspect he'll be about 50-60pts down come may, because as far as i can tell he has no edge, even if he were taking bf prices. i'd be delighted to be proved wrong though. fwiw, i do
This is what lets KEN down ......big time - starts a thread , loses , gets abuse ( still wrongly IMO ) and stops posting ( some would see this as a huff ...then take a peek at a comment on another thread this morning ...below .........truly incredible stuff ....if you ask me
.................................................................. .....scotbet 01 Dec 13:26
Yes , I agree 100% with the other 2 ..keep it going although I wouldn't blame you for stopping it ..because is it worth the hassle ? far too many folk on these forums seem quite preapred to stick in the knife ...when people are losing I don't see things (from a betting perspective ) with Ken ...me for me thats what the forum should be about ..views but coming on**ging people ...cause they are losing ...is so wrong
........................................................................................... kenilworth 01 Dec 22:00
Loss today of 3.15 points. Bets 48 Staked 100 points Balance - 18.68 points
That will do for me, I'm not putting up with sh!ts from a couple of idiots. This forum has gone. .......................................................................................
kenilworth 31 Dec 08:55
then Kenilworths ...contribution can only be described as strange ...why do that ken ?
About the drinking ? Read it on hear a couple of years ago by someone. Not true ? If that's the case, then I apologise. Regards stalking, you accuse people (selecta ?) of that when they post comments, questions etc, that don't suit you. You blow hot and cold and then when things go wrong you skulk away. If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen just stay out, but maybe that's what you seem to be doing. GL.
This is what lets KEN down ......big time - starts a thread , loses , gets abuse ( still wrongly IMO )and stops posting ( some would see this as a huff ...then take a peek at a comment on another thread this morning ...below .........truly incredible