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Escapee
29 Dec 09 13:17
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You say you are an Ex-Bookie, if so you probably know a bit more than average about racing, but........

Do you realise You never actually impart any of that knowledge, Whilst you post quite alot, you never actually contibute anything constructive.

All I can ever remember from your oh so numerous posts is your constant belittling and or insulting other people.



Next time you are just about to press the Post button, STOP, Pause for a while, think about it, Ask yourself Is this or that insult really warranted ? Is it really my niche in life to insult everyone I disagree with ?


Try asking yourself these questions every now and then, especially just before pressing the post button.
Or even go the extra mile and try to contibute constructive ideas then and see if your self esteem grows a bit.


Let us all know how you get on with that


thanks
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Report Lori December 29, 2009 1:22 PM GMT
Zipper posts plenty of useful knowledge, you have to read below the lines a bit, but he's not from the era of spoonfeeding like some on here.

imo.
Report Escapee December 29, 2009 1:26 PM GMT
Care to share any of those zipper nuggets lori ?

"Gotta back some and Gotta Lay Some" is the only one I remember.
Report custardcream64 December 29, 2009 1:29 PM GMT
Zippers nuggets
-------------------
1. Back some , lay some , ignore some .
2. Don't bet after 4-00 pm .
3 . Fetch the nurse .
Report moon65 December 29, 2009 1:39 PM GMT
Escapee
totally agree with you
Muppet of the highest order
If he finds a serious discussion going on all he does is mess it up and take take the**
Report tennis plums done December 29, 2009 2:01 PM GMT
well lori is more clued than most and thinks zipper is ok, so you need a re think imo
Report Escapee December 29, 2009 2:08 PM GMT
You're certainly right about Lori, Tennis,
And as I mention in my original post I think Zipper knowledge is above average.

So what bit should I rethink then ?
Report tennis plums done December 29, 2009 2:12 PM GMT
Do you realise You never actually impart any of that knowledge, Whilst you post quite alot, you never actually contibute anything constructive.

All I can ever remember from your oh so numerous posts is your constant belittling and or insulting other people.

er.. maybe this bit
Report Escapee December 29, 2009 2:16 PM GMT
OK, I'm prepared to have my mind changed... to rethink it as you put it.

Please could you find and post a zipper post that might help with this re-evaluation.

Thanks
Report tennis plums done December 29, 2009 2:18 PM GMT
kef4o 21 Dec 13:15


Sorry zip, where did you see a pen for on borrowed wings? It ran 2nd off the same weight last time out...




zipper 21 Dec 13:30


Kefo ...... yes it did but it carried 2 pens carried 11 .5 and got beat by Candy Creek 10.5 the 2/5 fav ..... they found a race for the horse with only one pen . and it flew in . good luck to them .. thats zip lays over for today 4 backs to follow ...... win lose or draw ITs Christmas .......




zipper 21 Dec 13:53


First back 2.00 Peponi........ sorry about the price ...... but a winners a winner .




DaveEdwards 21 Dec 13:57


Zipper, I like the way you try to help people on here. Good on you mate.
Report tennis plums done December 29, 2009 2:20 PM GMT
couldn't resist escapee, easy one i know... happy new year to ya
Report Lori December 29, 2009 2:23 PM GMT
I think you/we (I'm in the middle somewhere I think) can learn from the old 'uns when it comes to attitude. Tend to find the younger posters are better at the maths/technical stuff and the older ones have been there and seen it all come and go.

For me zip often reflects this in his posts and reminds us that just because we had a bad day today there's still a world out there to stop and take in. (Not that I'm very good at following that advice).

A little note of my own experiences. When I turned poker pro, many years before poker was the in-thing to do (further note, I'm not longer particularly good at poker vs the field, in case it sounds like a horn-tooting moment), I was 22 or so. I spent a good five years just listening to the old boys. Some talked utter drivel, some were brilliant, but what they all had in common was they'd already seen things that I hadn't and I found that I could take something out of most of the conversations I had with them if I let them talk and talk (and as you can probably imagine from my posting, I can talk with the best of 'em if I get rolling )

It doesn't mean that I always got great technical advice, but I got a feel for the entire scene much quicker than finding it out the hard way. I'm not into discussing the plusses and minuses of zip, or anyone else (well other than the obvious muppets who only post for attention), but anyone who isn't a raving imbecile adds to our experience. Bear in mind that different ages and different types of people will have different experiences to pass on. In the same way that I can't help people with Horse Racing betting, I'm sure zip can't help the 18 hour a day coffee addict grinder use a new API setup. You can only take what's there to be offered. He can pass on other nuggets for you to mull over and take or leave as you will though.

Thanks for the kind words by the way :)
Report Escapee December 29, 2009 2:47 PM GMT
Thankyou Tennis, you have changed my mind from 'Never' to Rarely and it is open to further change should you manage to find and post any other instances.


Lori, Aaaahhh yes the good old days of poker, when the games were good and the characters that played them were even better. Your post bought back alot of good memories. I too have regressed to the mean over the last couple of years :( but I had a fantastic 18 years prior to that and thank my lucky star for them :)

Did you ever play in London ? Vic? Stakis? Russel Square ? maybe we even know each other
Report tennis plums done December 29, 2009 2:47 PM GMT
yes lori, totally agree. its horses for courses as they say... really no pun intended!!
Report Lori December 29, 2009 2:50 PM GMT
I never got further South than Luton really, was more Midlands based (would travel to Bradford for the huge monthly £20 event... ah how things have changed)
Report zipper December 29, 2009 3:07 PM GMT
Escapee .... Hi my friend ... I have put up many usefull ideas on here .. That takes years to learn ... ask my old mates Unionjack .. and Tightfist ... did zip ever put em wrong ....... Happy New Year to ALL ..
Report Escapee December 29, 2009 3:24 PM GMT
And a Happy and prosperous new year to you as well Zipper
Report zipper December 29, 2009 3:30 PM GMT
Escapee .. Thank you ... May you and your family have a very prosperous .. 2010 .
Report Tightfisted December 29, 2009 5:23 PM GMT
ask my old mates Unionjack .. and Tightfist ]:)

zipper 20 Feb 15:53
keep laying the naps boys ..... its a Gold Mine ......How long will it last .. honest answer ive no idea.. How long is a peice of string ??????

zipper 12 Mar 13:50
Tightfist .... zips got to say... thats one hell of a systerm you got there .. now run that past me again ..... ok you are backing the nap boy with the longest losing run .. today .. Its .... Notts Evening Post .. on a run of 24 losers ...

SO its Kayf Aramis to win .. Hope you have a very big Bank .. and very bigger Balls .. cause you will do em both in .... Why not lay the mugs ? you would be quids in .. take this guy hes on 24 losers .. you would be on 24 winners laying the guy .. only a thought

Kayf Aramis 2.05..Chelts...1st...20.00 BSP

zipper 12 Mar 15:37
ok lets go this 4.00 Notable Destruval about 9/1 . wide open race .. but the gelding will do for me .. should the nag get beat .. and they all can beat ........Theres a lay down in the 4.55 at Hexam ..Ballynure .. a very poor race it should win .. but you will not get bigger than 11/10 ... lets see win lose or draw thats zip out .......

zipper 12 Mar 15:50
Tightfist zip here now dont want you to say zip aftertimes ok done 4k this Notable d estruval .. very open race zip has 10 monkeys /.. thats £500 to win ...

Tightfisted 12 Mar 15:52
Notable D'Estruval 16:00 Chel The Irish have won it only once since the 50's. GREAT!


zipper 12 Mar 16:25
Ok Tightfist .. the 9 monkeys hit the floor finished 3rd . zips 4.5 k down. Now you Chicken Hearts .. get your betting boots on .. one to go ... 4.55 . Ballynure ...Only the real Men will bet this Horse ... like its past the post .. bet the Nag till your nose bleeds....Lay the other 6...

Tightfisted 12 Mar 16:39
Zipper, don't break your ROOL... if you can't win by 4pm U shouldn't be playing...


zipper 12 Mar 16:52
Your right .. but this cannot be missed ...........

zipper 12 Mar 17:00
the horse pulled up .. end of story

zipper 24 Jul 11:07
Tightfist ..... your one hell of a sad person .

Tightfisted 24 Jul 11:26
This is the sad person

... cant hack it with the big boys .. you are going down .... zip will take your place in the Prem ..... lets see if zip can hack it .............

Trying to buck my confidence, a week before the drop, SLIMEBALL? Like you did with Unionjack?

zipper 24 Jul 11:58
Tighfist ..... everthing has a price .. and years ago zip priced up for the bookies .. you ok with that ... well I make you 1/20 on for the drop .. out of the prem .. If you fancy staying in the prem you can have 20/1 against ......... like we use to say help yourself.


I,TF, ended the month in middle of Prem Div, Zip lasted one month in Premier and continues to struggle in div. 1 :(

Tightfisted 24 Jul 16:34
I got to the premier before you, starting at the same time, so you can see how Sh!ite you are as a tipster Zipper.


Mnth end..Div..form.... Zipper past record
May-2007...P...23:1010020 Zipper...-43.88
Jun-2007...1... 7:0013013 zipper...-35.34
JuL-2007...1...29:0303010 zipper...-53.72
Aug-2007...2...16:0221000 zipper...-59.56
Sep-2007...2...22:-302212 zipper...-68.61
Oct-2007...2...20:0003020 zipper...-79.86
Nov-2007...2...24:0043201 zipper...-95.61
Dec-2007...2...23:000020- zipper..-102.66
Jan-2008...2...23:5325515 zipper..-114.66
Feb-2008...2... 7:1111421 zipper..-120.16
Mar-2008...2...23:135437- zipper..-120.16
Apr-2008...2...10:1222724 zipper..-125.10
May-2008...2...18:1223012 zipper..-132.01

Just in case you forgot, Zipper.


zipper 24 Jul 18:29
This guy is sick .............. and thats the last one from me .

Unfortunately, whenever I post some helpful stats....

zipper 11 Dec 10:07
Tightfisted ....... Will you please keep your mouth shut .. you are killing the golden goose ...zipper

Tightfisted 11 Dec 11:59
Zipper, famous for the systems:

Back and Lay Alan Keyte's Golden Goose
Back the champs, Lay the chumps
Follow the money, lay the drifters
Lay the Naps boys
Lay the most popular nap
Back and Lay the Naps boys
Back and Lay the most popular nap
Back and Lay the favourite
Back and Lay the 2nd Fav
Back and Lay the 3rd Fav ad infinitum...


and years ago zip priced up for the bookies ..

Zippo - ex-bookie??? More like a parasitic commission agent, the kind found in the silver ring, laying the fav at 5/2 and using the mugmoney to get 3/1 with the rails bookies.
Report scotbet December 29, 2009 5:57 PM GMT
So ...a bit of history here ?

is the zipper a layer of the "naps" peeps

and


tights a backer of the longest losing run tipsters


and


zipper , is a loser on a competition forum


thanks
Report Tightfisted December 29, 2009 6:07 PM GMT
So ...a bit of history here ?

Yeah, like Macbeth.
Report scotbet December 29, 2009 6:17 PM GMT
so ...have I got my points/observations on the right lines or not ?
Report custardcream64 December 29, 2009 7:09 PM GMT
4. Back the champs , lay the chumps .

... it's only a bit of fun .
Report kef4o December 29, 2009 7:41 PM GMT
Zip, if you were to drop the third person, everything would be a lot better imo. When I read your posts where you are giving an advice or an opinion, you sound like the sort of know-it-all guy who everybody wants to smack straight in the face. I still look forward to your posts because they are generally the very opposite of what everybody is saying, and if they happen to have some structured opinion in them, it's always worth a read. It just might be that you have a strong point that everybody is missing.
Report zipper December 30, 2009 1:35 PM GMT
Tightfist Rant away kid ..... Any how todays nap See you stuck with the loser RP ratings Jordans Light .. never mind the guy is on 15 losers tomorrow ... You may have noticed zips nap same race blew in at 9/1 ....... see you in the prem next month .. by the way ive got a corker tomorrow .......
Report zipper December 30, 2009 1:42 PM GMT
Kef4o ....... Smack you straight in the face ...... Heres my take ....... Violence never got anybody anywere .. Have a Happy New Year ......
Report zipper December 30, 2009 2:20 PM GMT
Heres a New Years Gift 3.35 Lingers Ravi River in the Post this morning 10/1
Zip makes the nag a 5/1 chance ...... you cannot kick it out of the frame . for scared cats get on place only .........
Report Glasgow Brian December 30, 2009 2:44 PM GMT
thanks zip --did it win ?
Report niceone December 30, 2009 2:48 PM GMT
No. And i backed it. But not on Zips advise anyway.
Report zipper December 30, 2009 2:59 PM GMT
Glasgow Brian ..... no It ran a shocker .... but thats horse racing .. move on theres allways tomorrow ..
Report zipper December 30, 2009 3:32 PM GMT
Heres one for Mr Tightfist ......... This big time loser like Mr 15 on the bounce no names no pack drill ..
..... comes to the joint and ask for a £100 on a 7/2 fav now remember this punter has lost 15 on the bounce at £100 a throw thats £1500. pounds .... you say yes sir ... good luck .....
Report zipper December 30, 2009 3:35 PM GMT
The horse gets beat .. hard luck .. hes now £1600 .. behind hope he fancies one tomorrow ...... it goes something like that ........
Report zipper December 30, 2009 3:38 PM GMT
Kef4o ... and yes I am a know all ...... know why ....... Ive been there and you aint .
Report zipper December 30, 2009 5:44 PM GMT
6.45 ..... thats zip out ..... taking the wife and the nurse out for a good time and some food .....
Report kef4o December 30, 2009 6:11 PM GMT
Just trying to point out the problem zip, and thus help.
Report IB Gaming December 31, 2009 1:07 AM GMT
Zip.......try....to.......be.....more.......efficient.......with.....your......
Report scotbet December 31, 2009 1:09 AM GMT
I'm trying to understand the issues ...but people are keeping to themselves
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