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am not spamming cos I am not giving out the name of the service. I just think so far the guy is doing good 48 points up after 2 betting days and would like to show that a tipping service can be good....SO FAR so I am going to post on here the emails that I have received each day but not until they have all run because it wouldn't be fair to do it any other way, I have removed any links etc
MONDAY
hi guys
firstly I am only a small service, I am the only person involved so win or lose it will be my fault, so no hiding from you, I will try and reply to any emails asap with any questions etc.
you can post any comments good or bad on the blog. I will post results from selections on there after racing
right here are a few words before we start mainly for the new guys but just a reminder to everyone, main aim of the service is to provide consistent profits over time. We bet solely on handicaps because the races are harder but the prices are bigger, I DO NOT expect to win every race strike rate on average is 1 from 4 or 5 selections, but we have gone up to 9 races without a winner once , because we do not bet ever below 3-1 and generally the winners are on average around 7-1 that takes care of the losers and makes us a tidy profit consistently, if you do pay for the service then any week I don't make you any profit, you get the week after free and that has happened I think 3 times since March when we started this particular service. I use betfair s.p for the prices to record our p/l some of you may have got better and some worse but it is the fairest method
staking is small bet = 2 points, medium bet = 4 points, and large bet = 7 points, the returns are worked out using that staking how much you use per point is up to you, I would suggest you start off with a bank you can afford and at maybe £1 a point and multiply your bank 4 times then increase your stake to £2 a point and so on, the mistake some members make is because we have a couple of nice winners they think GREAT and increase there stakes too quickly and of course then the horses loses and there back to square one so please remember small stakes and gradually increase, I want you all to be with me for a long time and have a fruitful relationship and make us all loadsamoney,
right preaching over on to todays selections
4 selections for this aft and there may be more tonight depending on how the going holds up
3.15 amanda carter small bet
3.45 red cape medium bet
4.00 sweet world large bet
4.45 andorn medium bet
good luck everyone
TUESDAY
hi guys
hope today we continue yesterdays good run
there is a couple of big priced runners today that are excellent value and are worth a tiny bet so were going to split a small bet in half and have 1 point on each
they are
5.20 1 point Hindford oak sioux .........it is well drawn, ignore its last run over too far and on heavy and its first run on soft and then look at its race at Chester and that is the best form
on offer at the weights
5.50 1 point Blow your mind...............again importantly it is well drawn visored 1st time and apprentice taking 5lbs off it needed its 1st run last year so assume it did this year , 5f suits better than 6f and its musselborough run on the sharp track is on par with the best form here so going, trip, track, draw form all in
its favour got to be excellent value
3.20 phoenix flight large bet ............. cant fancy the fav in this race and Phoenix flight always needs its first run back after a break so expect improvement this time
3.30 marrel large bet .........................dont like the fav he didnt beat much on his debut over fences and as with all P.Nichols runners will probably be overbet .Tempsford is a
dodge pot, Marrel is in excellent form very consistent will love the going and with R.P Flint taking off a very valuable 3lbs has to be the bet
at the prices
4.40 the snatcher small bet................this full horse loves this going there was obviously something wrong when he ran last time and I wonder if the fav will be up for the slog which
this race could turn out to be think guilded warrior would be more of a danger on a course he loves
WEDNESDAY
There are no bets at all today
MONDAY
hi guys
firstly I am only a small service, I am the only person involved so win or lose it will be my fault, so no hiding from you, I will try and reply to any emails asap with any questions etc.
you can post any comments good or bad on the blog. I will post results from selections on there after racing
right here are a few words before we start mainly for the new guys but just a reminder to everyone, main aim of the service is to provide consistent profits over time. We bet solely on handicaps because the races are harder but the prices are bigger, I DO NOT expect to win every race strike rate on average is 1 from 4 or 5 selections, but we have gone up to 9 races without a winner once , because we do not bet ever below 3-1 and generally the winners are on average around 7-1 that takes care of the losers and makes us a tidy profit consistently, if you do pay for the service then any week I don't make you any profit, you get the week after free and that has happened I think 3 times since March when we started this particular service. I use betfair s.p for the prices to record our p/l some of you may have got better and some worse but it is the fairest method
staking is small bet = 2 points, medium bet = 4 points, and large bet = 7 points, the returns are worked out using that staking how much you use per point is up to you, I would suggest you start off with a bank you can afford and at maybe £1 a point and multiply your bank 4 times then increase your stake to £2 a point and so on, the mistake some members make is because we have a couple of nice winners they think GREAT and increase there stakes too quickly and of course then the horses loses and there back to square one so please remember small stakes and gradually increase, I want you all to be with me for a long time and have a fruitful relationship and make us all loadsamoney,
right preaching over on to todays selections
4 selections for this aft and there may be more tonight depending on how the going holds up
3.15 amanda carter small bet
3.45 red cape medium bet
4.00 sweet world large bet
4.45 andorn medium bet
good luck everyone
TUESDAY
hi guys
hope today we continue yesterdays good run
there is a couple of big priced runners today that are excellent value and are worth a tiny bet so were going to split a small bet in half and have 1 point on each
they are
5.20 1 point Hindford oak sioux .........it is well drawn, ignore its last run over too far and on heavy and its first run on soft and then look at its race at Chester and that is the best form
on offer at the weights
5.50 1 point Blow your mind...............again importantly it is well drawn visored 1st time and apprentice taking 5lbs off it needed its 1st run last year so assume it did this year , 5f suits better than 6f and its musselborough run on the sharp track is on par with the best form here so going, trip, track, draw form all in
its favour got to be excellent value
3.20 phoenix flight large bet ............. cant fancy the fav in this race and Phoenix flight always needs its first run back after a break so expect improvement this time
3.30 marrel large bet .........................dont like the fav he didnt beat much on his debut over fences and as with all P.Nichols runners will probably be overbet .Tempsford is a
dodge pot, Marrel is in excellent form very consistent will love the going and with R.P Flint taking off a very valuable 3lbs has to be the bet
at the prices
4.40 the snatcher small bet................this full horse loves this going there was obviously something wrong when he ran last time and I wonder if the fav will be up for the slog which
this race could turn out to be think guilded warrior would be more of a danger on a course he loves
WEDNESDAY
There are no bets at all today
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hi mick lol
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Haven't had today's yet. Anybody else?
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Coetzer ......... Dont ring us .. we will ring you ... but dont hold yoy breath .......
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sorry guys forgot about this
he didnt have such a good day yesterday but I'm happy still with 25 points PROFIT for free this was yesterdays email right here are todays selections 2.50 sonhador 1 point |
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starting to struggle now still 11 points profit and I know that 2 of these were over 20-1 and river kirov was a non runner but he needs a winner to keep the ball rolling
yesterdays e-mail evening guys got this sorted a bit earlier than I thought 6.45 professor john 1 point ...............with the going changing to soft it tempered my bet on the selection it was going to be a 2 point bet because I liked the way it stayed on at Brighton a course which clearly didn't suit him , this track will suit him much better and excellent value at the price 7.15 spensley small bet.....................a lot of if's and buts about the favs in this race dubburg is consistent enough but is a bit of a plodder , sulky mount hermon you don't know if he will reproduce his form in 2nd time blinkers or on this much softer going. spensley was improving slowly until his last run when he ran as if something was badly amiss, fanshawe who's stable is in much better form now has had a month to sort him out so looks worth a small bet at a big price 7.35 le toreador large bet.................everything is in place for le toreador to run a big race the course and the going should be perfect Amy Ryan is taking 5lbs off so the gelding should be able to confirm ayr form with main danger but badly drawn nickel silver, racoon should be perfectly drawn in 1 to give him a toe along till a furlong out when hopefully he will go past, hadaf is much too inconsistent to worry about and the in form nifty fox much prefers softer going 8.00 goliaths boy medium bet ........goliaths boy has got a bit of class and will be much better suited by the drop in trip and this easier going than the faster going on his last 2 disappointing runs, paquerettza is admirably game and will be hard to beat but I think harriets girl will be a bigger danger to the selection 8.20 river kirov medium bet.............the free running river Kirov was badly drawn out wide in 10 last time out over c/d and could never get buried this time he is much better drawn in 3 to get buried behind the other runners and help him relax and save is energy , if that works then is previous form is on a par with the favs and the 7lb good little claimer Toby Atkinson takes off could make all the difference plus with the trainer having a 33% strike rate in the last 14 days and the jockey a 25% strike rate in the last 14 days that gives more grist to the mill so at 4 x the price of the favs has to be the selection |
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im not spamming a website... :) not yet anyway, but wait till youve had a few winners :)
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Was showing 49 points profit after 2 days but no winners for last 3 days has reduced that profit to 13 points.
Hoping for a good weekend. |
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Maximum bet wins at 6/1. Welcome back :)
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And ANOTHER 6/1 winner :)
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excellent day today shirl I said he needed a winner and he gets 2 both at betfair s.p 8.0 one was flapper a large bet ( 7 points ) and one was lujeanie a medium bet ( 4 points ) and available at 25.0 this morning.
SO HE ENDED 76 POINTS UP ON THE WEEK with an roi of 187% have a read what he put about lujeanie excellent breakdown here was todays email with all links etc taken out here is todays emails hi guys sorry been very disappointing these last couple of days and I cant even say we have been unlucky any where the selections just havent been good enough, but we still have a small profit so lets hope todays selections are good, leaving Ascot alone because of all the jockeys who might not know the track as good as they should so could be a few shocks. 2.10 angel rock medium bet |
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Anyone who thinks you can make long term profits by backing that many selections each day is fooling themselves.
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ok if you think so but I thought 19 selections in 1 week was good,but everyone is different but I am quite pleased with the service so far but every one has there own thoughts on how they should bet,the proof is in the pudding,
you see I have more information than you website,blog etc and lots more bets proofed than on the free trial, but I am not putting any links up so you will have to take my word for it |
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no bets are being sent for today Sunday
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hi guys 2 bets today both came 3rd, below is todays email
hi guys lets hope we can match or better last weeks efforts of 76 points PROFIT just a reminder for the new guys please only bet what you can afford losses do happen I am not infallible, I I suggest starting with a £100 bank and £1 a point multiply your bank x 4 then double your stakes and so on, we do not win every race normally we win 1 from 4/5 races but because of the prices which average about 11.0 that covers our losses and makes a nice profit, last week typically on the trial we had 11 losing bets on the trot and still made 76 points PROFIT on the week, that is the beauty of the system the staking, and the large prices, even from a bad position we come through most weeks but even I was shocked by 11 on the trot 9 was the most we had before. staking is simple we have 1 point for the rank outsiders small bet = 2 points medium bet = 4 points large bet = 7 points it is up to you how much a point you bet I try not to bet more than 20 points in one day usually will average around 12/13 points sometimes there are no selections at all, that is usually when I aren't sure of the going if the weather has changed a lot, rather not bet than take a chance with you guys money today's selections 3.15 Ella no bet .....................SHE WAS GOING TO BE A BET BUT BECAUSE OF HER TRAINERS POOR STRIKE RATE WITH HORSES RETURNING FROM A BREAK I DECIDED NOT TO BET ON HER she improved considerably last season with every run, she should love the deep southwell going the course will suit her front running style and Robert Winston has a 20% strike rate here , so if in the same form as when she last ran should have a great chance. Robby bobby who much prefers it here than any where else and distinctive prince look to be the main dangers. Kensington oval hasn't done enough to justify fav ,jadalee's form is nothing to set the world alight, and I am not sure if this deep Southwell going will suit the free going lochiel, 3.30 silver symphony large bet.........drawn in stall 2 has the perfect draw to make the most of her speed form the stalls and has already won on the polytrack, dolphin rock ran his best race over this course albeit over a furlong shorter but looked like a step up in trip would be tailor made for him, he is well drawn too so should rate as the main danger. Bahamian music's win was on good/soft in a very slow time and didn't beat anything of note 5.50 any day small bet.....................with good apprentice j p fahy taking 7lbs off her back and back up to her best trip it puts the filly in with a major chance. |
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coetzer, you might need to see someone about the multiple personality.
You are talking as though the person making the tips is someone other than yourself. However, if you look at your postings: 1) You start by saying "hi guys" on two occassions. The "tipster" also starts his e-mails with "hi guys" 2) You write your single lines of postings but don't use a period at the end. The "tipster" does the same. Ye old left brain and right brain need to be connected. Either that or you need to start charging "the tipster" half your rent ;) |
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Best aftertiming thread of all time
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Not unless the "tipster" lives in a different time zone.....or is a time traveller......
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shape my friend do you manage to sleep on a night worrying over such trivialities as to how I start my sentences.....lol.I supose there must be only one guy in the world who says hi guys......lol or maybe its because i have just read something beggining with hi guys.....lol no matter any way.why on earth would I want to pretend that I am someone else, there are no links, no names,no clues, no spamming no nothing .
prisoner who would be so stupid to post up after time 11 losing bets on the trot do you think the guy who posts them on here would want me to aftertime with those,I doubt it so much. I said at the start of the thread that I had joined a free tipping trial and would post up the results daily which I have and will continue doing until the end of the trial on Sunday.and that I would remove all links etc before posting so as not to be called a spammer. |
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oh I forgot shape what is a period , your knowledge is far superior to mine so please expalin nicely to me so the left knows what the right is reading
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coetzer a period is red and messy dont get involved
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lol sprinter
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Any idea when today's email is being sent?
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i got mine about 2 so I assume your will be the same time
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Yes @ 1358. Just thought I'd missed them but all okay now.
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not so good todayhorses ran ok one 2nd, one looked like it broke down going from cantering to p/u in a few strides ( mibleu ) I said Prescription wasn't good enough and it bolts up by 4 lengths, so again not good enough BUT we still have a lovely PROFIT of 50 points over the trial period.
here are todays emails hi everyone yesterdays selections were both placed 3rd ran ok but sorry not good enough to win us any money ,they may as well have been last for what good 3rd does us . Anyway on to today and just a quick reminder of stakes for all the newcomers 1 point for outsiders. small bet = 2 points medium bet = 4 points large bet = 7 points please set a side a small bank you can afford to lose and bet carefully x bank by 4 then double stakes and so on. just remember we had eleven losers on the bounce last week so be patient, careful, and I hope I will come through for you. and if we have a good winner don't increase your stakes please, build up gradual the prices are usually big so WE DON'T expect to win every race just long term. FINALLY if you haven't got your free spreadsheet from me then let me know and what format you want it in excel 2003 or excel 2007 tuesdays selections 3.15 mibleu medium bet ............this gelding is back in the class he runs best from has won over course and distance on this going the jockey knows him well and takes a very valuable 5lb of, he would have been much closer to histoire de moeurs at Stratford except for nearly falling and the 9lbs he is better off should enable him to turn the tables, all the other horses in this race are very in and out and probably histoire de moeurs is the main danger. 4.00 for life medium bet.............this fiery/unruly customer gets along well with Natilie Gemlova and should have the pace to get over from his 8 draw and make all, all his best races have been at this c/d and going, don't think prescription is good enough at the weights and the top horse al gilliani's 2 runs here haven't been very good and he doesn't seem in the same form and even with george baker back on will need to improve considerably on his last couple of runs, main danger is another horse who loves it here forest dane, THERE MAY BE MORE SELECTIONS TONIGHT BETWEEN 5 and 6 7.15 gillburg small bet.........I liked how this gelding quickened last time up a bit from a fairly decent pace in his last run at Haydock on similar going, maoi chin tire looks the main danger on form but over the same course at Haydock his race was run over 2 seconds slower 8.25 namir large bet..............this horse has got the best form in the race and the bonus is on it's first race for trainer Hj evans is that he has booked Louis-Philippe-Beuzelin and from my previous associations with the yard, from yard visits and I had a couple of shares in horses he has trained I know when they book a top apprentice that it is fancied strongly, a lot of the other runners in the race aren't in top form yet, my only doubt this morning was the going because he doesn't want it soft but g/sft is perfect |
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coetzer, sleep fine, thanks.
Background in forensic accounting tends to spot things at a glance without having to dive too deep. Combined with some college time studying abnormal psychology (I learnt never buy display shoes ;) They tend to stick in the heat.), you can see through things a bit. A "period" is a dot at the end of sentence. They look like this. . Both you and the "tipster" tend not to use them at the end of paragraph ending sentences. By the way; nice touch changing "hi guys" to "hi everyone" from the "tipster" after I pointed this out. Also, why spam this? If a hundred people subscribe, you will knock the value off your punts on betfair. Yada yada yada. Seen it all before. See ya guys! |
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oh, and remember; you're never alone with a schizophrenic
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soggy34 08 Aug 22:11
Anyone who thinks you can make long term profits by backing that many selections each day is fooling themselves. Dont talk dog muck :D |
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SHAPESHIFTER 12 Aug 11:38
oh, and remember; you're never alone with a schizophrenic CREASED |
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soggy34 08 Aug 22:11
Anyone who thinks you can make long term profits by backing that many selections each day is fooling themselves. Agree with nightshift man. I average about 25 win bets per day on the days that I bet, over the past two years showing a profit so will continue. |
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hi guys.....lol
compound have you written it wrong......... he has sent less bets than that in the 10 days since the trial started with a 50 point PROFIT hope thats enough periods for you shape listen boys, guys,guys etc because I have the website and the blog I can see what profit has been made over the last 18 months roughly and it is very impressive, which is the whole reason I was posting the emails just to show all you discerning guys that you are not always right about tipster. I sure ain't getting into no arguments with any of you guys I''m posting the emails after they have run and that is that weather or not you want to read them is of course personal choice which I totally respect |
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sorry compound I re-read your post and realise what you said now
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It seems this thread is being monitored. My posting got blocked. Test test.
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your right shape it is I reported your antics to betfair and asked them to look at some posts andyour un needed attack on MY thread.
constructive comments I don't mind it is a free country but I dont see why you should sprout un -truths and get away with it |
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Nothing compared to the antics of the "tipster".
Checked out his blog. When I looked at results, I found Thursday, January 29th the most interesting. He seems to post screen shots using the "what if" function so not even really placing his bets. A champion for the people, I say. Best of luck. |
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Okay, I'll bite. I'll stick to being "constructive".
coetzer 12 Aug 15:47 listen boys, guys,guys etc because I have the website and the blog I can see what profit has been made over the last 18 months roughly and it is very impressive. coetzer, I might be on the wrong site but the one I found a) only shows "figures" back to April 08. It doesn't show selections. b) the site was only created on 3-July 2008, not April 08. c) as I already mentioned, on the blog there are screen shots throughout January 2009 showing profit from race to race. The "tipster" is actually just taking screen in "what if" mode and not actually placing bets. So since you look like you are looking for a "tipster" to subscribe to and want "constructive criticism", my contribution to the thread would be it lacks credibility. Simple. One betfairians opinion. So report me away. Please cut and paste all the above. Infact, I'll check in on the blog to see if "the tipster" responds to what I have written. Infact, the "tipster" is a member of betfair so maybe he will respond here. |
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think you may have found the right site but if you look the results are from april 2008 I did say about and I make that 17 months, the website must have been made july but prior to everything there was no website or blog, just a forum. you want to point out the good bits as well as the bad instead of being dogmatic
and the blog has some excellent winning days when he used to give out free tips before racing once a week don't know what your talking about with the what if the screen prints were to show us the members what the p/l was per race and only that never to show weather he bet them, cos I don't know if he did or not |
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hi this was todays email
taking us to 55 points on the trial this evening selection 6.00 royal intruder large bet...............got everything in his favor again R.Hughes, 6f, Sandown, and a perfect draw so he can tuck in and swoop late like he did over c/d, 6.55 juste lille large bet.....................from 4 runs here the mare has won 3 over today's distance and been placed 2nd over 12f which seemed too far, main danger Homiere seems to have come into her own over 2f further and on faster going neither of which the filly has here has here 7.45 swift chap medium bet................have thought all along that he has been wanting this 2f step up in trip, and with James Millman who knows him well taking off 3lbs has to have a chance in the race, even though the ever improving Sequillo will be a tough nut to crack 8.05 shifting gold medium bet.............Amy Ryan gave Shifting gold a peach of a ride last time out over c/d and if she can do the same again will take some catching. The 4f step up in trip appears to have been what he needed 8.15 taste the wine small bet.............R.Hughes seems a good choice od jockey to get the best out of this gelding where the up hill finish should help, he has to be worth a small bet at the large price .main danger has to be the J.Dunlop trained devil to pay |