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AMADEUS MOZART
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if there are three football matches being played one after each other and the odds were 2 to 1 for the home win and 2 to 1 for the draw and 2 to1 for the away win. all equaling 33.333 chance of any particular result happening.
what would be the percentage chance of say no single home win with the 3 match bets placed before the first game kicked off?
knowing that at the start of each game there is only a 33.333chance of a win.
so betting on all 3 games at only 1 chance in 3 of winning would equal to what percentage?

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY ANSWERS
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Report Mr Ed December 15, 2009 9:03 AM GMT
No home win from 3 games
=2/3 * 2/3 * 2/3
=8/27
29.6%
Report AMADEUS MOZART December 15, 2009 10:44 AM GMT
is that the chance on betting on all 3 games even before the first game kicks off?
Report Capt__F December 15, 2009 10:51 AM GMT
deja vu
Report trader pj December 15, 2009 11:13 AM GMT
binomial distribution

prob(0 home wins) = (2/3)^3
prob(1 home win) = 3*(1/3)*(2/3)^2
prob(2 home wins) = 3*(2/3)*(1/3)^2
prob(3 home wins) = (1/3)^3
Report Hayden December 15, 2009 11:25 AM GMT
maybe in simpler layman terms that more will understand , if each team is 3.0 to win then they're 1.5 not to win so 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 3.375 expressed as a percentage 100/3.375 = 29.6%

Longer winded but more bookmaking explained.
Report zipper December 15, 2009 3:43 PM GMT
3x3x3 =27 outcomes .. home away draw .. the odds for 3 homes 3 draws 3 aways .. are in there ..
Report zipper December 15, 2009 3:49 PM GMT
Or put another way ... home 1 chance v 2 chances so its 2x2x2 = 8 . so its 19 /1 against .. same with the draw and the away .......
Report I am the one and only223 December 15, 2009 4:50 PM GMT
zipper, I'll have some of that 19/1 please.

What made you give up the bookmaking?
Report Hayden December 15, 2009 5:10 PM GMT
good grief this forum becomes more frightening by the day
Report zipper December 16, 2009 9:29 AM GMT
Haydon and I am 223 .. ok you two .. what are your odds .
223 what made me give up bookmaking .. Betfair , travel , old age ., mid week meetings take a look on your tv .. about 200 hundered punters .. betting in £20 quids ... and other reasons .....
Report zipper December 16, 2009 12:27 PM GMT
Hayden and 223 .. Come on you hot shots What are your odds ... dont tell me you collect trollies at Tescos ... and you will back to me when your shift is over ....... about 5.00 pm ..
Report zipper December 16, 2009 12:37 PM GMT
Hayden .. 223 boy .. Everyone has got an opinion ..... whats yours worth ////
Report Hayden December 16, 2009 1:34 PM GMT
already posted the answer to the original question zipper , so will leave it at that.

good luck today.
Report zipper December 16, 2009 2:31 PM GMT
Hayden ... So your frigtened .. what are you scared of .
I want a Mans answer Then we will leave it at that ...... its ok to come on here and rubbish a fellow poster ... without putting up your views .
Report zipper December 16, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
Same with that mouse 223 ..All gone no show ......
Report Hayden December 16, 2009 2:54 PM GMT
In all honesty i've no clue what on earth you're talking about tbh , the original question was posted by AMADEUS and my response was the following , which was behind some earlier correct answers but thought it might be beneficial explained in a bookmaking language rather than a mathematical one.....


HAYDEN 15 Dec 12:25
maybe in simpler layman terms that more will understand , if each team is 3.0 to win then they're 1.5 not to win so 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 3.375 expressed as a percentage 100/3.375 = 29.6%

Longer winded but more bookmaking explained.


No idea what your rant is about tbh but that said cannot make any sense of your responses either . AMADEUS has his correct answer from several sources so for me the thread is now dead and buried.
Report zipper December 16, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
Hayden re Mozart .. 2/1 home , 2/1 draw , 2/1 away, = 99% when was the last time .. or first time .. you could have them odds .......... never.
But to come back to you .. you said ive no idea ..... zip agrees with you ... you have no idea ... lets leave it at that ......
Report Hayden December 16, 2009 4:44 PM GMT
Whether the odds are ever available is of no relevance whatsoever , it was the question AMADEUS MOZART posed and whether it was hypothetical or not i've no idea and indeed you would have to ask him that one , it was a simply a correct response to an honest question of which the accuracy of the answer given of 29.6% cannot be disputed.
Report zipper December 16, 2009 4:54 PM GMT
Hayden ......... In the Hypothetical World ... anything goes ........ but i live in the real World .
Report I am the one and only223 December 16, 2009 5:00 PM GMT
zipper, HAYDEN's answer is obviously correct. Your reply is a bit dotty old chap(literally). You do have some previous with disputing some probability calculations of mine, when I was operating under another nom-de-plume. I just didn't fancy wasting anybody's time again.
Report zipper December 16, 2009 5:19 PM GMT
So ... 3 homes or 3 aways or 3 draws will happen 26.9 % of the time out of 27 chances .... dream on ..
Report zipper December 16, 2009 5:22 PM GMT
Hayden and 223 boy . I would lay you both till the cows come home ... To any stake you like .
Report Contrarian December 16, 2009 5:26 PM GMT
3 homes or 3 aways or 3 draws will happen 26.9 % of the time

That wasn't the original question.

It was: what is the probability of none of the three matches being a home win.

29.6% is correct, I'm afraid.
Report zipper December 16, 2009 5:36 PM GMT
Contrarian thanks for that 26 % is correct .. but I thought these guys were asking the odds for all 3 homes or aways or draw ......
Report A.Knutsen December 16, 2009 5:40 PM GMT
i reckon it depends on what teams are playing to be honest
Report AMADEUS MOZART December 17, 2009 4:07 AM GMT
?
Report AMADEUS MOZART December 18, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
anymore?
Report Hayden December 18, 2009 11:53 AM GMT
I guess the A.Knutsen post is a wind up AMADEUS tbh mate , you'd hope so anyway.
Report AMADEUS MOZART December 21, 2009 7:05 AM GMT
thanks hayden
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