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topkat
11 Dec 09 13:30
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like most punters i lose more than i win

if a bookie continues to take bets from a punter who consistently wins more than he loses, then that will threaten the bookie's profits

in order to defend his profits without banning winners, the bookie is likely to reduce the odds he offers

if the bookie reduces the odds he offers, then my returns on my occasional winner will be less making me worse off

therefore until i am a consistent winner i will support consistent winners being banned

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By:
curlywurly
When: 11 Dec 09 13:33
are you for real??
By:
topkat
When: 11 Dec 09 13:39
sure

consistent winners drain funds from the system

ban 'em say i

(or was it the fact that i admit to losing more than i win which you found unrealistic?)
By:
The Betfairy
When: 11 Dec 09 13:44
consistent winners drain funds from the system

The biggest consistent winners at the bookies are the bookies themselves.
By:
Joe Lampton
When: 11 Dec 09 13:46
You may lose more than you win, but, like most punters you probably maintain the hope that you may win eventually. By cutting off people who win the bookies destroy this asperation. From a commercial viewpoint I can understand bookies doing it but what sticks with me is the fact that they are far from open about this and it is never callenged in the media.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 11 Dec 09 13:47
cooperative is only way forward
By:
joshuag
When: 11 Dec 09 13:49
This either a wind up or a view from the most negative thinking punter I have come across. Maybe we should ban or hate all successful people if we are not ourselves successful. How very British
By:
Eldrick
When: 11 Dec 09 14:17
calm down, he's only advocating winners get kicked to the kerb until he himself becomes a winner

i think he has a lot in common with feck myself, just wants the best for him and his family, and who can argue with that wonderful ideal
By:
artie
When: 11 Dec 09 14:22
Please can I take your bets until you start winning ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Dec 09 16:46
josh, you are nearly right but we shud only ban succesful people who become succesful at the expense of others debt collectors,pawnbrokers,loan sharks,cash my gold etc for starters
By:
topkat
When: 11 Dec 09 17:30
1st time poster: good insight

negative-thinking punter? yes, based on 20 years of losing i'd have to be delusional to think any other way

consistent winners can always take their business to one of the 3 exchanges
By:
Moon Light
When: 11 Dec 09 18:03
There aren't any punters who consistently win at the bookies.
By:
topkat
When: 11 Dec 09 20:37
if not why are there so many of them on here moaning about getting banned?
By:
ijs
When: 11 Dec 09 20:39
wot a complete moron
By:
FINE AS FROG HAIR
When: 11 Dec 09 20:43
Topkat sounds like a communist to me.
By:
Moon Light
When: 12 Dec 09 00:17
if not why are there so many of them on here moaning about getting banned?

That's why they can't consistently win at the bookies. :)

I think owner/trainer accounts may be an exception.

The people who complain at getting banned have sometimes just had a couple of winners after years of losing, and some moron decides they have become a threat.
By:
getting better
When: 12 Dec 09 12:17
Exactly.
There are different types of punters that consistently win: rogues, shrewdies and arbers.
If they are rogues then better to keep the account open and limit the stakes, so as to know what is going on.
To tell for sure whether someone is a shrewdy or just lucky you need to wait for several hundred bets to be reasonably sure.
And as for arbers, if a price is longer than on Betfair, sooner or later someone is going to arb it. If one bans the most quick-fingered, then their place will be taken by the slightly slower arbers. If the price differential is maintained long enough then people who are not usually arbers, will become so.
By:
Moon Light
When: 12 Dec 09 13:45
An unusually rational response from a bookie. :)
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