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OspreyMan
03 Dec 09 07:52
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How many people make a living on Betfair, is it viable as a full time job, i do bet on the rugby union putting lumpy bets on 1/4 shots, i also bet in the correct goal market laying more than backing, so far so good and i have withrawn money out of my account, i am now using a method called scraping which means being mean but keen with my bets, it could go pear shaped but fate is in my own hands, it would be great to read your opinions.
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Report Deltâ December 3, 2009 7:56 AM GMT
dont do it
Report scots64 December 3, 2009 8:57 AM GMT
go for it man, the only people who say "it cant be done" are the people who cant do it. Of course it can be done
Report Betfarian2008 December 3, 2009 9:27 AM GMT
it can be done but be ready to lose big amounts in the beginning
Report sweetchildofmine December 3, 2009 10:02 AM GMT
so you avoid the 1/3 and 1/5 bets then?
Report sweetchildofmine December 3, 2009 10:05 AM GMT
on a serious note ..good luck and yes of course it can be done, but only with

HARD WORK
DEDICATION
SKILL
PATIENCE
DEEP KNOWLEDGE
SPECIALISATION
DISCIPLINE
GOOD MONEY MANAGEMENT
Report tennistourphysio December 3, 2009 10:54 AM GMT
on a more serious note - this month i have earned more from here than my reasonaly well paid job. It's not the first time either. But if you went fulltime what about NI and pensions contributions and all that...
Report sweetchildofmine December 3, 2009 11:01 AM GMT
good point, im currently making more here than in my job, but dont have the confidence nor the inclination to make the break as yet..maybe if i was continuing in a similar vein 12 months from now, and with at least two years wages in the bank..then i could well be tempted..in fact i know i would be
Report TELL DEL December 3, 2009 11:04 AM GMT
"But if you went fulltime what about NI and pensions contributions and all that..."

could make voluntary NI cotributions if he wanted to - but that would hardly be the biggest concern at the moment.
Report JamesBlakesHugeArse December 3, 2009 11:09 AM GMT
I have lived from betting for the last 5 years, but then again i am a dirty rat who ruins it for the rest of the angelic gambling world
Report HARRY22 December 3, 2009 11:14 AM GMT
??
Report JamesBlakesHugeArse December 3, 2009 11:21 AM GMT
arbing Harry, they (we) are hated on here
Report scots64 December 3, 2009 11:26 AM GMT
I dont hate arbers, if i wa good at it i'd do it to
Report HARRY22 December 3, 2009 11:30 AM GMT
i dont understand the hate towards them.....if you send a gridiron team out on a sunday you will do anything too win...same principle on here ;)
Report frames December 3, 2009 11:34 AM GMT
No problem with arbers myself but how can you call it betting James ?
Report Moon Light December 3, 2009 11:34 AM GMT
the hate thing against arbers is just bookie lies and spin...an excuse to get rid of all winners. The people who go along with it have been brainwashed by bs propaganda.
Report Vaprus Parnu December 3, 2009 11:36 AM GMT
Never understood why arbers are supposedly so hated. Personally, I couldn't care less what someone else is doing. Arbing would bore me to tears so fair play to anyone who can do that full time.

As for going pro, one thing I would add is that doing it part time is completely different to full time. The pressure is immensely tougher and the worst thing is, you won't know how you will react until you are in that situation whereby you have nothing to fall back on and bills that need to be paid.

It's much easier to do it part time and just because you are successful PT does not mean you will be FT. Have plenty of savings at the ready if you take the plunge.

Oh yes, and as has already been said, be prepared to lose at the start but don't let that put you off - it's all part of the education. Think of it as 'training costs' and it will help you bear the loss better.
Report Treble_Underscore December 3, 2009 11:37 AM GMT
No one on here should have problems with arbers. They provide mug liquidity and value prices without knowing what value is, but they keep reloading. The ideal losers on here for those who can win.

They shouldn't be decried, they should be encouraged.
Report JamesBlakesHugeArse December 3, 2009 11:58 AM GMT
frames - i called it betting but i didnt call it gambling
Report JamesBlakesHugeArse December 3, 2009 12:00 PM GMT
and treble - arbers know what value is and can identify it better than most, they just havent the balls to take advantage of it
Report Eldrick December 3, 2009 12:23 PM GMT
arbers take free money from the market, knock prices into line as they go about their business, and consequently leave less value available for position takers who know value and have the confidence to have a punt

however, there's no rules against what they do, and i sometimes avail myself of their services
Report The Visionary December 3, 2009 12:38 PM GMT
Ospreyman - come over to the rugbyforum for a chat. We need more big odds on backers.
Report curlywurly December 3, 2009 1:37 PM GMT
It's much easier to do it part time and just because you are successful PT does not mean you will be FT

Don't agree with that at all. If you can make it pay part time( i.e earn 2k+ a month), fulltime will be much easier.
The major advantage being able to pick and choose matches that suit - rather than having to make do with whats available when you're not at work
Report Vaprus Parnu December 3, 2009 1:50 PM GMT
Curlywurly, think you've missed the point I'm making. Not disputing you can't make money FT just cos you do PT, what I'm saying is that the mentality and pressure is completely different.

For example, if you have are PT and blow your bank, you have no real worries cos you have your job to fall back on and start again. In my experience, this definitely affects how you place bets / trade.

And if things start to go wrong, can you honestly say you would stick to your strategy even though you have rent to pay and food to buy? I don't think anyone can know that pressure unless they are in the situation - that's all I meant.

And also, the whole concept of building a bank is totally different cos you HAVE to withdraw a certain amount each month / week.
Report curlywurly December 3, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
I see your point Vaprus, but if you've built up sizeable savings before going ft then that pressure is overrated imo
If you haven't then of course you'd feel the strain
Report jimmy two times December 3, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
reckon its impossible on betfair unless you've inside info on non trying horses or something. 5 per cent commision, premium charges etc.
Report NonShy.. December 3, 2009 4:46 PM GMT
it doesn't going to happen for him is it... lumpy bets on rugby and laying correct scores... sounds like a good run and the imagination working overload

no offence btw
Report pmbets December 3, 2009 4:46 PM GMT
Most who are pros and earn average £2000 a week are the ones who go to the course hire a room and lay the fallers in running.Also9 when the horse is a length or 2 in front over the last the on course guys back it at 1.01.Sometimes they need a taxi maybe 1 time in 20(thats not very often)but most often they collect.
Report big aitch December 3, 2009 4:58 PM GMT
pm, if they lost 1 time in 20 backing at 1.01, they would be skint
Report sweetchildofmine December 3, 2009 5:58 PM GMT
one in twenty :0 :^0 get back to school that chap ;)

vaprus makes a very good point imo
Report Glasgow Brian December 3, 2009 6:05 PM GMT
pmbets ---idiot
in running players can win on atr pics
Report jas1968 December 3, 2009 6:10 PM GMT
pmbets


Nice haul
Report buzzer December 3, 2009 6:12 PM GMT
Poor, but obviously effective, bait :)
Report big aitch December 3, 2009 6:22 PM GMT
I don't think he was fishing
Report sweetchildofmine December 3, 2009 6:24 PM GMT
nor me tbh
Report The Visionary December 3, 2009 7:14 PM GMT
no doubt some people make a few quid laying fallers, but to think there is a huge market full of mug money just waiting to be snapped up on such happenings is of mythical proportions on these forums.
Report cragihol December 3, 2009 7:43 PM GMT
not sure why everyone automatically assumes that making a living must mean betting on horse sports like tennis, basketball and cricket are much more lucrative imo and don't need fast pictures etc to make money never ever bet on horses myself
Report OspreyMan December 3, 2009 7:47 PM GMT
The rugby is pretty nailed on, look for miss matches, New Zealand just created a few of them, Wales, England and Italy ETC, and the guy in the racing plus magazine on Saturday is red hot on his rugby league give England to beat New Zealand and is very good on try scorers, six nations is a bit harder but France are due a biggy very soon, been to quiet for a few years.
Report TRICICLON December 3, 2009 8:11 PM GMT
Keeping my job in spain, is just for mental higiene, 2 years earning day by day, week by week and month by mont, more income than from it, the secret is discipline and dont get greedy, just get what the markets give away.... im what you can call a scalper in the city
Report The Visionary December 3, 2009 8:36 PM GMT
Ospreyman did you manage to avoid such nailed on games as Scot v Aus and NZ v Fra?
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