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DFCIRONMAN
16 Nov 09 11:37
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With paper attempts to use KELLY CALCULATOR for betting on horse races, the following results were obtained -

ATTEMPT 1 : LOSS of 1,000 points
ATTEMPT 2 : PROFIT of 1,107 points

So over all with paper bank made a small profit on threads ......as was posting early on here selections , then had I not been doing that the over all profit would have been at least 500 points more.

Yesterday was using a small money bank to use KC on some races and made a small profit of £23.19
from STARTING MONEY BANK of £338.63.

So as now using money to bet, it is best to have a separate thread.

Will post selections shortly............and will be not initally be doing FULL KELLY STAKING......but after a run of say 20 losses, I will increase the proportion of KELLY STAKING used, as it is a reasonable thing to do when "confident" returns will be obtained EVENTUALLY.

GL with bets today.

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By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 11:40
12.40 race ...no time to do
12.50 race ....don't like shape of race ...so PASS
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 11:44
1.10 - Juvenile Hurdle race..... nothing appeals to me in this one ..so PASS.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 11:56
1.20 - Nomecheki

MONEY BANK STARTING : £ 370.08

ODDS AVAILABLE : 4.4 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 3-1 ( 25 %)
STAKE : 6.59

WIN STAKE £6.59

Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 12:14
1.40 - Natural Rhythm


MONEY BANK before any races above : £ 363.49

ODDS AVAILABLE : 20 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 12-1 ( 7.69 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 9.36

WIN STAKE £2.59Natural Rhythm
Also doing cover bet £2 on BET NOIR

Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 12:26
£5.81 profit only on 1.20 race ....too generous with IR lay !!!!!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 12:32
1.50 - Heronway

MONEY BANK now : £ 371.01 before next race and after NOMECHEKI win

ODDS AVAILABLE : 110 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 20-1 ( 4.76 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 13.78

WIN STAKE £ 2
PLACE STAKE £2 at 22


Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 12:35
£3 PLACE bet as cover on NATURAL RHYTHM in 1.40 at 3.80 as well
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 12:41
2.00 .....not sure about ...no time to weigh up ...so PASS
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 12:45
Natural Rhythm was travelling well .....a bit "unlucky" with that one not at least placing....but that is racing!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 12:51
Having problems posting due to a "MODERATED FORUM" etc .....................anybody know what is happening re this interruption??????
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:04
Looks like BF are stopping my posts ....somebody must have complained presumably.......

Perhaps me posting reasons for PASSING on a race are the cause ?????
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:05
2.20 - FIN LAY

MONEY BANK now : £ 359.43

ODDS AVAILABLE : 5.3 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 3-1 ( 25 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 23.87

WIN STAKE £ 6


Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:06
It was the fking NAME OF HORSE that was problem


By time I posted the odds have come in from 5.7 to 4.4 ........ANNOYEDDDDDDDDDDDDD
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:06
5.3 was my 2nd attempt at posting
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:10
2.20 - PASS .....
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:18
2.30- Zegna

MONEY BANK now : £ 357.43

ODDS AVAILABLE : 3.75 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 2-1 ( 33.33 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 27.92

WIN STAKE £ 8


Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:22
2.40 - ZANIR

MONEY BANK now : £ 349.43

ODDS AVAILABLE : 6.2 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 3-1 ( 25 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 34.31

WIN STAKE £ 8
with cover win bet on Smugglers Bay Win £2


Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:32
2.50 - LE COMMENCEMENT

MONEY BANK now : £ 339.43

ODDS AVAILABLE : 6.0 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 4-1 ( 20 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 10.72

WIN STAKE £ 3.72
with cover win bet £2 on Diamond Supreme at 100s


Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:33
Costly race ...had 2nd and 3rd there in 2.30 ....and the 6 yo won.......the odds indicated the winner was well fancied......very low odds for 6 yo in this type of race ....DRATTTTTTTTTTT
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:39
Plumpton 1.20 Full Result
1st 6 Nomecheki (FR) 11-2
2nd 3 Russian Flag (FR) 9-1
3rd 1 Bormo (FR) 15-2


Still gnawing gums over the only winner today .....backed it too low odds, as drifted out, then wrote off far too much profit IR....... :(
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:44
£27.56 profit off ZANIR win ...less commission
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:46
3.00 PASS on
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:48
3.10 PASS on...away for coffee
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:56
No loss on LE COMMENCEMENt in 2.50 race
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 13:59
3.20 Moon Melody

MONEY BANK now : £ 358.64

ODDS AVAILABLE : 8.6 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 4-1 ( 20 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 31.99

WIN STAKE £ 8
with cover win bet £2 on Majic Moments at


Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:06
Leicester 2.40 Full Result
1st 1 Zanir (FR) 9-2
2nd 9 Pickamus (FR) 11-1
3rd 4 Clova Island 13-2
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:21
Feeling a wee bit knackered....so will just do low stakes on the 3.30

3.30
ARASHI £3 win at 10.50
HERITAGE COAST £2 WIN at 8s
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:35
3.40 - Kelly Manor

MONEY BANK now : £ 333.91

ODDS AVAILABLE : 28 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 12-1 ( 7.69 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 13.66

WIN STAKE £6 EW place odds 6.6



Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:37
3.40 - Cobbler's Queen

MONEY BANK now : £ 321.91

ODDS AVAILABLE : 4.6 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 3-1 ( 25 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 9.88

WIN STAKE £9.88



Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:43
3.50- Kaybeew


MONEY BANK now : £319.13

ODDS AVAILABLE : 3.25 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 2-1 ( 33.33 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 6.83

WIN STAKE £6.83Kaybeew

Cover WIN bet £2 on LITTLE MOOR at 18.50



Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:46
COBBLER's QUEEN win £20.24 before commission less loss on place bet of £6....in 3.40
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:48
Leicester 3.40
1st 5 Cobbler's Queen (IRE) 7-2 F
2nd 1 Devon Native (IRE) 10-1
3rd 11 Pure Crystal 5-1
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:53
4.00 Gilt Edge Girl


MONEY BANK now : £345.43

ODDS AVAILABLE : 17 ( Betfair)
PROBABILITY % = 9-1 ( 10 %)
STAKE INDICATED : 14.09

WIN STAKE £4Gilt Edge Girl

With cover £2 WIN bet on Bosun Breese at 22s



Using roughly one third total stakes .....in most races ...but might use FULLY KELLY occasionally.
Will be setting lays IR in WIN MARKET ONLY
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 14:59
Plumpton 3.50
1st 3 Kaybeew 2-1 F
2nd 5 Landenstown Star (IRE) 4-1
3rd 7 Silver Footnote 13-2


Only made £7.48 before commission on race .....still a win though :D
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:03
£38.48 profit on GILT EDGE GIRL :D ...less commission :(
By:
Muqbil
When: 16 Nov 09 15:06
wd there m8.

I backed that beast, thought for all the world it was cooked.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:06
Wolverhampton 4.00
1st 7 Gilt Edge Girl 16-1
2nd 8 Ivory Silk 5-1
3rd 6 Fantasy Explorer 15-8 F



Had a rough passage at one time ...so wrote off a chunk of profit ...was worth doing ...I think in that race.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:06
CHeers M....so did I ....that is why wrote off so much :( :D



WD M :D
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 16 Nov 09 15:10
Looks like I took bad odds on GILT EDGE GIRL ...only backed at 16.5.....................pretty bad error by me ther :(
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