why not do an 'anti-chase'?

thats still chasing.

if you use gruss write yourself a little excel app that actually submits the opposite bet of whatever you try to submit LOL would've worked a charm on the horses for me today :D

do you need to know visual basic?

Desperate times demand desperate measures by desperate people ?
If this is the best you chappies can come up with, then I suggest you quit now.

ah, YLB, still as cynical as ever.

Yep.
Can't teach an old dog new tricks I'm afraid.
But your idea still sucks I'm afraid to say.

yeah yeah value works both ways.

but does anyone know if you need VB with Gruss?

I excel at VB

You can use Gruss excel automation without using VBA by smart use of formulae- but to unlock the real potential of it you do need to learn a bit of code.

word.