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good value losers
08 Nov 09 08:02
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usually do one of these each year on the tennis phorum but the last 2 years they got deleted as they degenerated into unseemly slanging matches. flattered(?) that i inflame such passions in some posters on there! :0

anyway, the idea of posting is to try and help with discipline which i struggle with on the horses. so easy to fritter away money on silly bets on other races while waiting for the next race you're actually interested in!

1000 pt bank
50pt lay to lose to start with (unless otherwise specified), which will be adjusted up/down depending on results

1.20 mr mille chief @ 1.72
3.05 here quideo de touzaine @ 2.04
4.20 ffos nelson's chief (25pt) @ 2.9
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Report good value losers November 8, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
everyone else is ignoring GoM so i will too :)

a good start. should've chucked another 25 at nelson's chief when it shortened to 2.5. ah well

1.20 mr mille chief @ 1.72 :) +66
3.05 here quideo de touzaine @ 2.04 :) +45.67
4.20 ffos nelson's chief (25pt) @ 2.9 :) +12.5

pl for today +124.17
bank 1124.17
Report good value losers November 9, 2009 10:10 AM GMT
1.20 carl reindeer dippin @ 2.76
1.45 sth (25pts) qulinton @ 2.2
2.35 wolv ishismart @ 2.96

3.20 promising anshan currently 3.25. have a lay in @ 3 see if it gets matched
Report good value losers November 9, 2009 3:11 PM GMT
1.20 carl reindeer dippin @ 2.76 :) +27
1.45 sth (25pts) qulinton @ 2.2 :( -25
2.35 wolv ishismart @ 2.96 :) +24.23
3.20 promising anshan matched @ 3 in running :) +23.75

today's pl +49.98
total +174.15
Report good value losers November 10, 2009 9:54 AM GMT
1.00 ling megasue lay in at 3 see if it gets matched
3.50 sedg saddlers deal @ 3

then 3 marginal bets at exe. it would probably be wisest to leave them, but the odds are quite atttractive! what the hell 25pts on each :D

2.40 exe inchidaly rock @ 1.8
3.10 exe copper bleu @ 1.95
4.10 exe the minack @ 1.9
Report good value losers November 10, 2009 4:04 PM GMT
1.00 ling megasue @ 3 :) +23.75
3.50 sedg saddlers deal @ 3 :) +23.75

2.40 exe inchidaly rock @ 1.8 :( -25
3.10 exe copper bleu @ 1.95 :) +25
4.10 exe the minack @ 1.9 :( -25

idiot for taking on the ruby walsh hotpots! doh

today's pl +22.5
total +196.65
Report lpool1 November 10, 2009 4:06 PM GMT
Don't be too hard on yourself profit is profit at the end of the day. You have been doing well with this.
Report good value losers November 10, 2009 4:14 PM GMT
only mildly annoyed tbh. reasonably happy to lay a horse at odds on that's never jumped a fence in a race before, and the minack only had weird irish p2p form to go by. but i do usually steer clear of ruby hotpots.
Report good value losers November 11, 2009 10:19 AM GMT
bumping steaks to 55 :D but if the bank falls below 1100 during the day then back to 50. going to dodge the ruby favs today, watch them lose lol

12.50 war menorah @ 2.54
1.50 war a french horse (25pts) @ 3
2.20 war recife de thaix lay in @ 3
2.40 bang wilbury star @ 2.46
4.10 bang whiteabbey (25pts) @ 2.3
6.50 kem mass rally @ 2.52
7.20 kem next move (25pts) @ 2.54
Report good value losers November 11, 2009 5:24 PM GMT
bit of a driffy on next move. chucking another 25 in @ 3 :)
Report good value losers November 11, 2009 6:32 PM GMT
no!!! done by a false driffy! :^0 ah well, it happens. sods law the day i bump the steaks i hit some losers.

12.50 war menorah @ 2.54 :( -55
1.50 war a french horse (25pts) @ 3 :( -25
2.20 war recife de thaix lay in @ 3 :) +26.12
2.40 bang wilbury star @ 2.46 :) +35.78
4.10 bang whiteabbey (25pts) @ 2.3 :) +18.27
6.50 kem mass rally @ 2.52 :( -55
7.20 kem next move (25pts) @ 2.54 :( -50

todays pl -104.83
total +91.82
Report I.quit.my.job November 11, 2009 6:33 PM GMT
chasing doesn't pay off...................why u stake so randomly?

also u left out Ruby's today and they went down................you cannot mix and match, you either lay them all the time or never at all
Report good value losers November 11, 2009 6:35 PM GMT
and yes, both ruby favs lost, at 8/13 and 11/10! doh
Report I.quit.my.job November 11, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
staking?
Report good value losers November 11, 2009 6:38 PM GMT
lol i knew it - dead silence when in profit, a losing day and the 1st knocker appears! :^0

i'm not steaking randomly. it's max 5% of bank or a half steak if it's not quite a full on bet but still worth a pop.
Report good value losers November 11, 2009 6:41 PM GMT
and why did you think i was chasing? because of that extra 25 on the last? erm no, i was following the driffy, wrongly as it turned out.
Report I.quit.my.job November 11, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
im not knocking only just came across thread.........u are in profit so how can we knock?

you say £25 if it is not a full-on bet...............what does this mean? if you don't fancy it as strongly as the others, why not leave it out? only questions not criticisms
Report good value losers November 11, 2009 7:13 PM GMT
i've got various criteria to arrive at the picks. if a horse meets most of them it's a full bet. if it meets some but not all then it's a half steak bet. why not leave it out? fair point, but the idea is to have some fun bets on an otherwise dull boring winter's afternoon.
Report I.quit.my.job November 11, 2009 8:07 PM GMT
ok mate good luck with it..............you should make profit laying shorties, it's just finding the right ones
Report back to the day job November 11, 2009 10:25 PM GMT
Hello GVL. I'll join you when the "other" tennis is finished ;)
Report good value losers November 12, 2009 9:18 AM GMT
actually watched a couple matches yesterday there was fckall else on. despite all the high and mighty comments about the atp i saw the same muggishness as on the wta. one match had 4 blakes in 5 games :^0

rather more bets today than i'd usually go for, but have re-examined them all and don't think i'm going ott. back to 50 steaks and if bank drops below 1000 then down to 45, if it goes above 1200 then up to 55.

1.00 lud moghaayer @ 2.56
2.30 lud al amaan @ 2.58
2.40 tau australia day (25pts) @ 1.58
2.50 sth cape quarter @ 2
3.00 lud first point @ 2.1
4.00 lud wallace monument lay in @ 3
6.50 wolv oriental cavalier (25pt) @ 2.6
Report good value losers November 12, 2009 3:17 PM GMT
1.00 lud moghaayer @ 2.56 :( -50
2.30 lud al amaan @ 2.58 :) +30
2.40 tau australia day (25pts) @ 1.58 nr
2.50 sth cape quarter @ 2 :( -50
3.00 lud first point @ 2.1 :( -50
4.00 lud wallace monument lay in @ 3 not matched. saved because i forgot to specify it as in running. phew

today's pl -120
total -28.18

what a crap day. not doing too well on the aw stuff so will give the wolv bet a miss.

not around the next few days, back sun or mon.
Report good value losers November 13, 2009 11:22 AM GMT
today's plans cancelled due to carp weather lol so back on it! :) steaks 45 to start, up to 50 if bank goes over 110, down to 40 if bank falls below 900

12.25 newc premier saga @ 2.2
12.55 newc grand theatre @ 2.72
14.15 ling memorandum @ 2.54
15.25 ling kinetix @ 1.95
Report good value losers November 13, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
12.25 newc premier saga @ 2.2 :) +35.62
12.55 newc grand theatre @ 2.72 :) +24.85
14.15 ling memorandum @ 2.54 :( -45
15.25 ling kinetix @ 1.95 :) +45

hooray finally nailed one on the aw :)

todays pl +60.47
total 32.29
Report good value losers November 14, 2009 8:49 AM GMT
plans cancelled again cos of the weather :(

13.05 utt sullomo

and 25pts each of the following tbh these are all marginal bets out of boredom stuck indoors and nothing else on.

12.00 ling shamir @ 2.9
12.30 utt chamirey @ 2.64
12.40 weth leulahleulahlay @ 2.9
13.10 weth candle @ 1.83
Report good value losers November 16, 2009 9:21 AM GMT
13.05 utt sullomo :( -45
12.00 ling shamir @ 2.9 :) +12.5 went off odds on dammit!
12.30 utt chamirey @ 2.64 :( -25
12.40 weth leulahleulahlay @ 2.9 :) +12.5
13.10 weth candle @ 1.83 :( -25

day's pl -70 :( never usually do saturday's. i blame the weather! ;)
total -37.71


12.40 leic spring jim @ 2.32
12.50 plum anak (20pts) @ 1.41
13.10 leic screaming brave @ 1.9
13.50 plum the betchworth kid (20pts) @ 1.86
14.10 leic good old thyme @ 2.12
14.20 plum bensalem (20pts) @ 1.56
14.30 wolv zegna lay in @ 3
14.50 plum stormhoek lay in @ 3

the plum shorties very speculative. all 3 good horses but none jumped a fence/hurdle in public before. may well trot up, but at odds on i'll take the risk.
Report good value losers November 16, 2009 9:31 AM GMT
oops correction, got on screaming brave @ 1.76 and the betchworth kid @ 1.78 :)
Report HARRY22 November 16, 2009 9:37 AM GMT
you are everywhere GVL lol...dont u hate when u get a horse tip.it makes u sspend cash when u dont want too...errmm what was it callled..ladies waiting at wolverhampton
Report good value losers November 16, 2009 10:13 AM GMT
not everywhere ffs! lol wta, cricket, nfl, the occasional foray onto footie. hardly everywhere! and only do these nags when there's no wta.
Report good value losers November 16, 2009 1:27 PM GMT
fck me every 1 of the 6 favs opposed has scooted home :_| would've been a 33/1 acca :^0 :^0 :^0

think i'll take the hint and retire hurt from this game :| going to be a boring 7 weeks till the tennis kicks off again :(
Report I.quit.my.job November 16, 2009 1:53 PM GMT
tennis Sunday in London and it's the Grand Slam of Darts live on ITV4 every night from 6pm

what more do you want? :)
Report good value losers November 16, 2009 1:57 PM GMT
i don't bet on men's tennis. as for darts ... :0
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