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Well keep your chin up pal it'll come. Winning everyday isn't easy.
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You'll notice I've no intention of being drawn into any arguments.
Dave, I assure you, neither do I, but if someone has a pop at me, I will respond. |
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go on ken i'll hold your jacket
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OK
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otherwise intelligent thread descending into chest beating nonsense
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not by me it isn't
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..nor me.
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kenilworth - can you post up one of your profitable threads - ta :)
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Hello to Dave Edwards and Son of Dunc :)
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From Hiawatha
Basically you need to be betting when the odds are in your favour and that doesn't happen too often, and unless you find when that occurs, you won't win. GL." Never have truer words been spoken but it will fall on deaf ears. Whilst the first part of the statement I agree with, not the second part. There is value to be found in nearly every horse race if you know how to look for it. |
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DOUBLED 28 Oct 08:45
kenilworth - can you post up one of your profitable threads - ta Doubled, there is one on this forum right now if you care to have a look. |
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You can take solace in the fact that i am in the same boat pretty much, have deposited £500 over the last 10 days and lost the lot through bad betting bad luck and poor judgement. Friday last week summed in right up, put £180 on Baczinsky at 2.02 in play didn't trade out when she went to 1.45 got near the end of the match. Her opponent won the first point of her service game at 4-4 in the 3rd set got out at 2.02 for no profit she ends up breaking in that game and winning the match. Very next bet Patty Schnyder after being a break up put £180 on at 1.90 loses the next 3 games and the set, missed my trade out point when she went 2-0 up in the 2nd set then loses 6 sraight games. Typical
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If someone showed you how to make risk free money every single day, would you have the discipline to stick to it?
Betfair is a bit like an upside down jigsaw puzzle. You can turn it around and around over and over and not see where the missing piece fits, then suddenly you catch a glance in a mirror and the missing piece jumps out at you. If you're struggling with discipline give up now. If you're losing money slash your ante. |
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whats his antie done to deserve a slashing?
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Love the jigsaw analogy. Not so sure if a lack of discipline is immediate cause to give up. It was something I had trouble with, but if you are prepared to look at yourself and delve inside to see what is making you tick then you can do it.
Hello, coach, if you are doing another music quiz make it a bit easier this time! |
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Hello to all my buddies
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Beat The OverRound 28 Oct 15:27
If someone showed you how to make risk free money every single day, would you have the discipline to stick to it? ------------------------------------------------------- Yes without a doubt 100% yes. I enjoy the thrill of wining money rather than the emptiness felt at losing a big wedge. Been looking at various systems over the last few days but reluctant to expose them in case I'll kill off any gold mines I have come across - unlikely I know. |
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Barry, there is no such thing as a winning system, of that you can be assured. You may have a method that works, but a system will have too many rules. You cannot use rules to beat any sporting event. There are too many variables to take into account. A system is very rigid and doesn't lend itself to this type of analysis. Your best hope is to have a method that allows you to analyse data in a methodical way an make an informed decision.
Please don't anyone have a go at me about this. If anyone does I shall not respond. |
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Does that count for pre-kick off trading?
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Sorry Rocket, fair comment. Just to qualify my last posting, I am referring to the prediction of the outcome of a sporting event. As for trading, there may or may not be systems that people use and to be honest I haven't got a clue!
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Dave, there plenty of systems, but I don't believe there are any infallible systems.
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Like a lot of the other commenters said, it's the size of your bets that surprises me for a "gut-feeling" style bettor. I wonder, is that because of a particularly lucky patch you have had in the past? I say that because a couple of years ago I won 6K on a massive outsider and it made my betting crazy for quite a while. From putting £10 on a horse i went to £200, basically from over-confidence and the fact that i obviously had plenty left so didn't notice the damage and stupidity. After a few mental £300 bets on the footy WC, which I don't know jack about, I finally wised up and got my equilibrium back.
Now I put everything in excel, you can't hide from the truth when it's all accounted for, like it or not. I stick to the horses and baseball because I've spent a lot of time analysing them as best I can - I don't touch footy because I now realise my strengths, such as they are. I won't bet more than £30. And even spending a couple of hours a day working at it means pin money, at best - but a losing patch won't wipe me out. Maybe I'm now too cautious, but I'm not sh***ing a brick waiting for Larsson to equalise in the 90th minute so i don't lose half a months wages... |
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Agreed Kenilworth. Any system can work in the short term, no matter how outlandish or basic the procedure is. The problem is usually that the system works while the stakes are small, stakes are increased..........you know the rest!
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Yes without a doubt 100% yes.
I enjoy the thrill of wining money rather than the emptiness felt at losing a big wedge. Then if you are good at maths or handy with Excel, there are hundreds of risk free arbs in the place market every week. The usual objection is "what if bookies don't pay third dividend or no fourth dividend" The answer is simple, don't dabble in markets where two scratchings would reduce the number of runners paid out. The beauty of the place market as opposed to the win market, is that it's not as easily evident. |
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Hello Coach,
Agree with what Dave says about making the quiz easier next time ;) |
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If you're having £200 - £500 bets you should easily be winning something on virtually every race,providing of course you know what youre doing. £10 a race is a 100k a year.
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only way to long term profit at sports betting is specialize so narrowly, study so obsessively, and bet so conservatively that you might as well be doing a proper job
alternatively buy shares in a listed bookmaker and let them do all the work |
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are you serious about a boring method of getting back £2000 over the next year ? have you tried using introductory free bet offers / matched betting ?
google "donglemouse matched betting" for some inspiration. |
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If you are seriously looking for any answers with regards to making 'it' pay, then stop looking here or anywhere else for that matter. Remember, those who talk don't know and those who know don't talk.
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spot on mate ^ there are big winners on here [few] they are not on this forum spouting off systems .
I managed to have a brief chat with a guy in London through a friend who is making a shed load In running . I saw P/L 45k 3 months I dropped a few hints about paying for training ....... he didnt want to know !! can you blame him Its fun though |
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Surely the secrets are in a £47 ebook?
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kE ?
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What Betfairy? Are you implying all ebooks are not written by individuals who are in the upper echelon of all punters and are not going to instruct their prospective readers on how to get there? Shame on you for being so cynical!
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Remember, those who talk don't know and those who know don't talk.
Read that again ^ |
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one barry robson --
would you be happy doubling your bank in 12 mnths --or is this too slow .????????????/ |
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LuisGarcia 30 Oct 10:26
are you serious about a boring method of getting back £2000 over the next year ? have you tried using introductory free bet offers / matched betting ? google "donglemouse matched betting" for some inspiration. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- doing this also but my gambling is eating into the profits. |
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Outlier 30 Oct 10:40
If you are seriously looking for any answers with regards to making 'it' pay, then stop looking here or anywhere else for that matter. Remember, those who talk don't know and those who know don't talk. I don't know do I? Read my postings again if you have the time. Then, if I don't know and you know of a better source to help with the discipline side of betting please share it with us. I am not sharing my methods of analysis for betting so fair enough comment on that, but please do not try to give the impression that everything written here is all useless. And if you do know something that might help Barry, why don't you do the decent thing and tell him? |
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I know and i talk. Doubled my bank in 4 weeks.
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^^^ 2009
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Read my thread and see how its done. Im not here to gloat but i am a superb football bettor. 2009 so what? because i joined then does that mean i don't know what im doing?
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