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Yeah I did see that, but can we count regional leagues and friendly matches, if so then that would be the first ever recorded penalty, then someone would have to tell the local council in Airdie who have a blue plaque at the park where it was scored noting the historic moment.
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When we signed Phil Parkes from QPR it was a world record fee for a keeper at the time
£565,000. |
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The gloriously named James McLuggage scored that first penalty for Royal Albert FC against Airdrie mes.
Liverpool and Man Utd title winning sides have been for ever grateful for that decision by the IFAB in 1891 to allow penalties to be awarded in games  donny - those penalties in that report from 1890 could not have been "official" as penalty kicks only got incorporated in to the laws of the game in June 1891. https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zc2gfdm |
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I know but it was in Airdrie
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Someone might also want to tell this guy who posted a 20 minute video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU71dgRjgMw
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Official or not, they were recorded in press, and followed the same procedure that was incorporated into the laws.
Article also shows pitch markings of the era, and history of 18 yard box and 6 yard box.... It's good to know where these things originate, and see their development. Lots of stuff going on back then, and if these were not researched and recorded then you get to a point where football begins with formation of premier league. |
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Juventus play in their colours because of Notts County.
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I'd probably say yes as well as it is on reflection, as you couldn't actually say you scored the first ever penalty when someone else actually scored it, it's like Arsenal's red kits, google where we got those and it pings back umpteen stories about an Arsenal player who was ex-Forest and had some sent down, but it's not true, even Brian Clough said “That lot play in red because of us", yet they were bought from a Tailors in Woolwich by the club owner.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/w4FtDedF-bQ |
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It doesn't matter how much research and recording by local papers back then there is, the penalty kick was not incorporated in to the laws of the game until June 1891.
It is likely that when McCrum's original proposal was being laughed at in 1890 that a local league may well have thought it worth trying, but it could not have been official as it was not within the laws. Who knows, maybe others had actually tried something similar before in their local matches ? Plenty of innovations in the game (and sport in general in fact) are trialled before actually becoming official. |
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Excepting, of course, the penalty kick is referenced in the laws of 1890.
Maybe in anticipation of being formally incorporated a year later, or maybe not. |
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Sheffield are recognised as the oldest football club in the world, but they were formed 6 years before the rules of the game were even drawn up by the oldest football association in the world, also formed in 1863 England, but that doesn't mean Sheffield are not the oldest club in the world because they weren't playing by any official rules, meaning you have to go with whatever came first be there official rules or not. Or until there's any other articles unearthed from somewhere around the world that claims to be home to the first penalty taker.
Kind Regards. |
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McCrum's proposal was discussed earlier but was dismissed by the powers that be due to the inference that the gentleman who played the game were cheating by committing fouls that prevented a possible goal. They also thought the notion of a direct shot at goal from 12 yards was too severe a punishment. So maybe there was some mention in the laws then. But the fact remains that June 2nd 1891 was when penalties were officially included in the laws of football.
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Everton were reigning league champions when the leagues were suspended at the outbreak of both WW1 and WW2.
Looking at the toffees title wins over the years, maybe they could have become known at "the 24 club".... They won their first championship in 1891 and also won the title in 1915, 1939, 1963 and 1987. Exactly a 24 year gap between each of those, shame about 2011  They have four other wins of course in between times. Roll on 2035...  |
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The Wolves penalty mentioned earlier was the first penalty in the English Football League
Incidentally... the first recorded own goal (in the English Football league) was scored in the first round of fixtures in the first Football League season (1888/89) by Gershom Cox of Aston Villa in a match v Wolves So Wolves benefited from the first OG and the first Penalty (in the English Football League) |
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The first substitute used in English football would have been in the opening Saturday of about the 1967 season, about 35 minutes in...sorry to be a bit vague about that bit...
But, it was Charlton Athletics Keith Peacock, who i think still holds the record appearances for the club, and later went on to manage Dixies local club the Gills, sign Tony Cascarino for a set of track suits, and father of Chelsea and Newcastle star Gavin Peacock...who went to my secondary school, after me obviously, and is now a Church Minister in Canada Beat that for a set of stats! |
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Wolves penalty in 1891 was first in English football league
Also first own goal (in EFL) scored for Wolves in opening fixtures of first season (1888/88) by Aston Villa's G Cox |
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But, they're not my club, just realised the thread header
Apologies, but interesting anyway? |
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Not sure if he is still there Reg, but Gavin started a one year stint as Pastor at Bethersden Baptist Church last year (near Ashford).
He is still shown as such on their website, so maybe extended his stay |
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First recorded own goal scored by Villa player for Wolves on first day of first football league season 1888/89
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First penalty mentioned earlier was the first in EFL
So Wolves benefited from the first OG and the first penalty in England's Football league |
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Not sure Dixie, but I read his story about finding religion in his early 20s while at Chelsea or Newcastle, wouldn't have had much help from the lads back then, a lot of mickey taking...got to be a strong character, met his dad many times, nice man
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Sunderland were the last English team standing, to play a match outside the top flight
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Gavin is still at Bethersden Reg, in the interest of research i just looked up his sermon from last weekend on You Tube
Agree about Keith, was always well liked in the game. You can still get a copy of his autobiography from a couple of places online, called....No Substitute  |
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david fairclough
was the first "supersub" for liverpool back in the day |
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Keith Peacock Charlton Athletic was the first ever substitute.
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just to shed some more light, first windscreen wiper was patterned by an American woman, the Gladstone Adams version was a few years later and was never manufactured, but he did invent one, with the prototype still available to see.
first ever penalty was as yhtl says was probably McGinness rather than McCluggage, which still has a plaque up in Airdrie claiming to be the first. First ever substitute was Richard Gottinger for Germany on 11 October 1953, Peacock was a decade later, albeit the first in a football league match. Kind Regards. |
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CRAIG skippy JOHNsON former boro /l,pool layer ,designed kid of a certain age go to football boots, PREDATOR,s
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The predator and skippy was made into an excellent documentary... Craig's Boots.
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johnson/proctor/hodgson boro,s trio , ive known mark since he was a kid, played together over the field 7 days a week,worked with his dad ,and often seak to him outside the riverside ,when grandsons looking for autographs,he was telling me that he,s still in contact with DAVEY HODGSON and he,s a football agent now, i was telling him i sawa clip of suderland v spurs on thebig match end of last season and stan cummings,proc and davey hodgson were all on pitch playig for sunderland, i couldnt remember hodgson playing at/for sunderland,summising it was after l,pool,but cant fit that in with cummings been there,but i think stan signed twice for s,land
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Must have been around time or just after mccoist was there, err, 83-84 ish, I think,
but some of the Sunderland lads might know |
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yeh around that time,i think proc and cummings signed twice for sunderland , when i was talking to PROC about he said other lads had told him about it,but he just couldnt remember the game, HODGSON scored after coming on as sub
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The first time players wore numbered shirts in the FA Cup Final was in 1933 when Everton hammered Man City 3-0.
The Everton team wore numbers 1 to 11 and City wore 12 to 22. In that match, the first player to wear the Number 9 shirt could not have been more appropriate, the incomparable William Ralph Dean And of course the great man scored , notching Everton's second that day |