Experiment of the martingale system

What's that old saying.. "the markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent"

We know you'll be crushed long term with this strategy, as it only takes that 1 catastrophic, inevitable string of results to wipe your bank. If it's just being applied as a short term punt with capped losses then you may believe the risk-reward to be worth it. GL to anyone playing.

Martingayle is sophisticated terminology for Chasing.

Helpful link for you here RR,

https://www.gamcare.org.uk/

Meep Meep !

Reload

Still think draw results full time would be better. Most teams want to win but will avoid losing at all costs.
However a Martingale is probably the worst way to bet as a strange result wipes you out. My advice is stick with 
Doubles and one acca .

If there ever was a good place to apply the martingale staking system, then the QF's of the WC is it.

For it to lose, all 4 favs have to lose or draw in 90 minutes, Risking £2,000 to win just £31 (assuming you stop at winner)


Best of luck with it.

chasing....
the dragoon...
n the golden goose

It is win and btts as well , not just straight wins , so need minimum overs at least .

Chasing is gambling in its purest form.

Surely it's Wile E Coyote that does the chasing ?

roadrunner46 08 Jul 26 20:45 - Will post prices on the day of the matches and the imaginary bets

Match will be off in approx 60 mins. Waiting with bated breath for the first post France vs Morocco...

£50 France win and BTTS 5/2
£50 France win to nil 7/5

Best case would be france and Spain win to nil, the accumulated profits make a good bet on England to win to nil
Of course that would mean the first two bets on France and Spain to win and BTTS would lose, than the bet on England to win and BTTS would be £450 and current price on that is 3/1

Already have around £800 in bets on France to win and 1.5 goals als tonight, wanted to put more on to much hassle 5/6 price

Those two bets clash with each other. Laying out £100 to win £75 or £20? I would rather stick £100 on France to win, Bet365 offering 1.61.

Am i missing something or are the 2 bets simply a france win between them .

You need to be laying France, not backing them! Your cash out will go up more than any other poxy win you have off them tonight!

haven't smelt fish this rank since I was invited to a dinner party only to stuck between Abbot and Widdecombe

So easy to understand the bets. Yet seems to have confused everyone

The winnings roll over on Spain to win to nil, if France don’t  concede a goal. The other side of the Spain to win and BTTS the stake increase to £150

Fancy nobody understanding that!

Pretty silly strategy tbh. You’re definitely losing on half your bets, possibly both.

You don’t   comprehend  the reasoning and methodology. That’s why by the first thing you mentioned is that one side of the bet losing doesn’t make any sense to you, inst ad I should of been laying France lol

Explain the next steps after this result

You should be laying France. They’re worth £60k to you. Instead you’ve bet £100 on them to win today and returned £120.

£120 on Spain to win today and nil.
£150 on Spain to win and btts.

Pretty pointless.

To nil. This predictive bollix is getting worse!

Eureka moment

Spain £120 to win to nil at 13/8
Spain £150 win and BTTS at 9/4

That would make total stakes £250 so far

Obviously RR can bet however he likes.

But some of his methodology is baffling.

And i still can't get my head around £27k cash out on France not being a big enough win

Cash out must have gone up now , if so must be worth considering with two bigger tests to follow ?

I have one of my bets rolling over to Spain win tomorrow, collecting  £1152

Cash out went down around £1800 in last two days, don’t know if it has changed again

Been betting for over 60 years, made several thousand matched betting, my dream was always to be a pro gambler, however sadly I still cannot find the answer, fast arbing with the bookies and I would have made it, but as we all know it wont work with them as they just heavily restrict you, ive always thought the only certain way to win was Martingale and if you have endless money it would probabaly work on betfair, but as everyone rightly says youwill almost certainly end up going on a very long losing run and having to stake £10,000 to win 50p, I think it would be best to stick to simple things such as backing the draw, or laying a favourite, the secret is probably making the losing runs as short as possible, but sadly I don't know the answer.

It doesnt make sense , france won to nil so that martingale has won and is finished .
A martingale continues until a bet wins .
So only the win and btts martingale is still running .

£31100 now, what they have done is lowered the cash out offers on Spain and obviously increased on France. The other day the offers were around £30900

Seems lot of talk about Spain having the better chance of winning the World Cup, reasoning behind all these arguments seem to be that France could be vulnerable in midfield and defence, don’t really buy that argument, their attacking players are easily the best in the tournament by a country mile

John42 i think the problem with most gamblers is they want to win a lot quickly , bookies love them as they do the long odds accas etc and win maybe once a year but end up hundreds down , if i said to them i will guarantee you winning a small percentage every week they would reject it .

If you guaranteed someone winning every week big or small, you're going to get closed down or restricted to peanuts, bookies have it within their gift to do what they want to uneconomic punters, you have to demonstrate you are a mug placing mug accas and hope to strike it rich just to keep your account open, you're not going to make it big with the bookies.

"having to stake £10,000 to win 50p" Now, I'm sure we can all agree, THAT is not a good risk-reward scenario

Everyone knows if you win small amounts regularly you will get restricted by the books, but strangely enough they don't recognise regular losers, especially big losers.
Arbing used to be possible using oddschecker but their odds updates have a big time lag on them now.

Martingale is a one way ticket to the poor house. Far better to decrease stakes when losing and up them when you're on a good run and have a stop win.

so i think it's
1/4 -50

next up spain

that bet, maybe incomprehensibly, would look like
150 @ 3.7
maybe not a traditional martingale, maybe so, definitely a measurable experiment

Mes, your 21.04 post last night looks "uncomfortable " after this morning's news
Not your fault, mate

I hope Russ Abbot stays indoors today!

Yes, Kenbo, even Diane as you knew
"Uncomfortable " was the wrong word, ironic better?

Yeah, ironic.

Just for clarity:
The martingale strategy involves doubling up on losing bets and reducing winning bets by half. It is essentially a strategy that promotes a loss-averse mentality that tries to improve the odds of breaking even, but also increases the chances of severe and quick losses.

This thread has nothing to do with that strategy (also known as the Monte Carlo fallacy?) This thread is basically suggesting dutching bets, but not in a good way. It is not arbing as not guaranteeing a profit.

I find it very difficult to stick to, but level stakes betting is always the most profitable for me. For several years in the 80's I ran racing competitions, where 20 competitors provided one bet a day for a month at a time. I used to analyse all the results and came to the conclusion the most profitable price range was evens-15/8 followed by 2/1-9-2 and then 5-1-17/2. Odds on and 8/1 and bigger yielded the worst returns. The other big factor was the state of the ground, GF for sustained periods on the flat, everybody was more successful.

Anyway I'm bailing out of this nonsense thread. GL with the bets though.

Just back winners.

Increasing one's stake after a loss, whatever the amount , is a mug's game, you know it, I know it.
If you can't, over time , show a profit with same stake betting, then you're obviously doing something wrong.
Stake amount  must be dictated by profit & loss.

That's my view.
FWIW.

Jul 10, 2026 -- 8:55AM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:

Just back winners.

Seemples.