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Can anyone make a case for the South Americans, they look pretty average to me.
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This guy hasn't touched the ball, could score the winning pen
Wow!! Must be a few arsenal players in that Paraguay side 
Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:27AM, mesmerised wrote:
These Germans have never lost a pen shootout I think
but that is a pointless stat. These ain't exactly Beckenbauer, Brehme, Klose etc
amazing scenes. 3 points lost. you cant trust the germans 
1.03 £33.00 £121.78
1.04 £241.95 £34,900.31
1.05 £51.94 £153,785.50
1.06 £15.57 £9,402.47
1.07 £8,093.27
1.08 £93.40 £10,926.81
Out to 2.0, lumpy left 1.05 up
1.04 £241.95 £34,900.31
1.05 £51.94 £153,785.50
1.06 £15.57 £9,402.47
1.07 £8,093.27
1.08 £93.40 £10,926.81
Out to 2.0, lumpy left 1.05 up
A pity the Krauts never took them like that against us
Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:29AM, mesmerised wrote:
Tuchel last German standing
Not for long tho, will be gone soon enough
Strange how some countries win the World Cup then are useless for years after
Italy won in 2006, bombed in groups 2010 and 2014, haven't qualified since
Germany win in 2014, not passed the second round since.
Brazil not been to a final since they won it in 2002
England never been back to final since 1966
Italy won in 2006, bombed in groups 2010 and 2014, haven't qualified since
Germany win in 2014, not passed the second round since.
Brazil not been to a final since they won it in 2002
England never been back to final since 1966
They'll be dancing in the streets of Asuncion tonight...
Showing off my Geography O Level grade c pass
Showing off my Geography O Level grade c pass
Caramba I wish you luck tomorrow and everything given you have Gyökeres who I'm obviously following and hopes does well, but Sweden are gonner get absolutely pumped by France 
Could add Spain, win it 2010, not made quarters of the last 3
The German decline is so weird. They were bad 1998-2004 (somehow fluked a WC final in 2002 in the middle of this). Then they change entire structure from the grassroots and up after the flop in 2004 and ahead of their home WC and go bronze, bronze, gold. Been useless since.
Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:33AM, mesmerised wrote:
Caramba I wish you luck tomorrow and everything given you have Gyökeres who I'm obviously following and hopes does well, but Sweden are gonner get absolutely pumped by France
yeah for sure, my comment was very much tongue in cheek.
I took a bet on France outright at 4.4 as Germany missed their 4th pen. I was seething hard as Para missed two kicks from there, but it worked out in the end.
Nagelsmann seems like another AVB
Hyped up as the greatest ever in early thirties, out of the game by 40.
Hyped up as the greatest ever in early thirties, out of the game by 40.
Germany in 2018 and 2022 at least created chances. This is a useless squad, I don't understand how a big football nation like that doesn't get better players.
Caramba, France 3.9 now
Well done, but I'm surprised Germany going out took the France price down half a point...would never have considered them a threat
Well done, but I'm surprised Germany going out took the France price down half a point...would never have considered them a threat
Argentina and France both sub 1.3 to make the quarters.
looks like we are either getting Brazil vs Argentina for the first time since 1990 or Argentina vs England.
Traditionally, Brazil's greatest rival is Argentina. The two countries have met each other four times in the history of the FIFA World Cup, with two wins for Brazil (West Germany 1974 and Spain 1982), one for Argentina (Italy 1990) and a draw (Argentina 1978).
Funny these two have only met 4 times in the history of the WC and that was in the span of 5 world cups.
/caramba the South American statistician
Funny these two have only met 4 times in the history of the WC and that was in the span of 5 world cups.
/caramba the South American statistician
The 2nd group stage in 74/78/82 made big nation match ups more likely
Mexico are the biggest mystery in football, 130 odd million people, a proper footballing country where it's like religion.
Yet their World Cup record is absolutely abysmal and there hasn't been any top class Mexican player to speak off in years and years.
I read a while a list of the best ever Mexican players, just to give you an idea of their calibre, the player rated the fifth best Mexican player ever was....wait for it......Javier Hernandez the little pea
If he was English he'd be the 5000th best ever player.
How can a country that big with that many people where football is the number 1,2,3 sport, cannot produce any top quality players at all. Probably have to go as far back as Marquez and he was a defender. If you look at the clubs their current squad are all playing for, most are playing in Mexico, Jimenez was playing at Fulham last season, just signed for a Championship club, the rest are at clubs in Russia, Greece, Cyprus etc.
Kind Regards.
Yet their World Cup record is absolutely abysmal and there hasn't been any top class Mexican player to speak off in years and years.
I read a while a list of the best ever Mexican players, just to give you an idea of their calibre, the player rated the fifth best Mexican player ever was....wait for it......Javier Hernandez
the little peaIf he was English he'd be the 5000th best ever player.
How can a country that big with that many people where football is the number 1,2,3 sport, cannot produce any top quality players at all. Probably have to go as far back as Marquez and he was a defender. If you look at the clubs their current squad are all playing for, most are playing in Mexico, Jimenez was playing at Fulham last season, just signed for a Championship club, the rest are at clubs in Russia, Greece, Cyprus etc.
Kind Regards.
when you're carrying 2, maybe 3 passengers, and you don't have any quality to bring on. You're goose is cooked, tbh.
I was only thinking today that I don't think I'd ever seen Brazil play Argentina in a World Cup, was going to look it up but forgot, it is a pretty amazing stat it hasn't happened in the last 8 World Cups
Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:48AM, tobermory wrote:
The 2nd group stage in 74/78/82 made big nation match ups more likely
yeah that explains that stat. Quite unexpected that they met in 1990, and only happened because Argentina did so poorly in the group stages. They should have met later you'd think, but when one did well the other one flopped. 2014 they both made final four, think that's the only one in recent time.
Those thinking it may be opening up for the Argies, are forgetting the Colombians.
Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:48AM, mesmerised wrote:
Mexico are the biggest mystery in football, 130 odd million people, a proper footballing country where it's like religion.Yet their World Cup record is absolutely abysmal and there hasn't been any top class Mexican player to speak off in years and years.I read a while a list of the best ever Mexican players, just to give you an idea of their calibre, the player rated the fifth best Mexican player ever was....wait for it......Javier Hernandez the little peaIf he was English he'd be the 5000th best ever player.How can a country that big with that many people where football is the number 1,2,3 sport, cannot produce any top quality players at all. Probably have to go as far back as Marquez and he was a defender. If you look at the clubs their current squad are all playing for, most are playing in Mexico, Jimenez was playing at Fulham last season, just signed for a Championship club, the rest are at clubs in Russia, Greece, Cyprus etc.Kind Regards.
Lucha libre soaking up all the top talent!
England are a Mirror Imagine of the German play style , SHYTENHAUSER
they need to sort their game out and Quick
Penalty Shoot out into the Congo End, Bongo Drums in full flow , Game over imo
they need to sort their game out and Quick
Penalty Shoot out into the Congo End, Bongo Drums in full flow , Game over imo
The weirdest example of big nations never crossing paths was Brazil not meeting Germany until 2002.
A bit like Federer and Nadal - they played 14 times in Grand slams (40 times in total)
but they never played each other once at the US Open
but they never played each other once at the US Open
I don't mind the German's losing, but I am not sure how Shearer can say a side who spent most the match playing for penalties, deserved to win. That's before you take into account the very dubious disallowed goal where it looked like the goalkeeper went down too easily. Two more poor teams.
I guess because Nadal took a while to be a Top 2 player on non clay, but was always seeded 2 at the US due to clay record, so couldn't meet Roger until the final but wasn't good enough to get there.
And when Nadal came into his all court prime Fed's prime was over.
And when Nadal came into his all court prime Fed's prime was over.
tober they met at the Aussie open (hard court) four times
Had to look it up, but England haven't played Spain at a World Cup since 1982, that's 11 World Cups ago, must be the longest gap between games for England v another Top nation ?
Yeah, it is odd they never did play in US Open considering that.
But Federer really dropped off at the US Open after 2011 or so didn't he?, while being more competitive in the Australian until near the end of his career.
But Federer really dropped off at the US Open after 2011 or so didn't he?, while being more competitive in the Australian until near the end of his career.
yeah Novak came in and helped spoil the party as well, that's in part why he is no where near their level of popularity, people enjoyed that rivalry but then post 2011, gluten free n'all, Novak started to split them up, knocking one of the other out of slams stopping more match ups between Federer and Nadal.
I remember Cannigia scoring against Brazil, brilliant set up by Maradona.
on a slightly lesser level, Murray and Nadal amazingly never met in a Grand Slam final, despite the fact that between his first slam final USOPEN 2008 til his last, Wimbledon 2016, they played in total of 24 slam finals between then, Murray 11 and Nadal 13, yet somehow they managed to miss each other in every single one.
The one time Murray got to a French open final, where Nadal usually sat waiting for his next victim, he wasn't there, he had to pull out of the third round, wasn't meant to happen. Would have got beat anyway.
Serena never won Aussie Open and the US Open in the same year despite winning both events plenty of times and both being on outdoor hard.
Sabalenka done that recently, don't know who done it last before that
( The German decline is so weird. They were bad 1998-2004 (somehow fluked a WC final in 2002 in the middle of this). Then they change entire structure from the grassroots and up after the flop in 2004 and ahead of their home WC and go bronze, bronze, gold. Been useless since. ) this was mentioned after the match, and its seems its Peps passing passing is to blame
Wont be watching but I'll post one for those that will, draw is my guess
Jun 30, 2026 -- 12:27AM, mesmerised wrote:
SKIES IT
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1266835975372357
1945 since both Germany and Japan were eliminated at the same time...
Hamann on RTE said that Nagelsmann rarely watches games, never been to Milan to watch Bisseck or Brentford to watch Schade, only watches 1 or 2 Bundesliga games a month. Doesn't watch CL games, didn't go to CWC last summer to witness conditions when Martinez, Tuchel and Deschamps all did.
Klopp also gave out about the disallowed goal saying that Arsenal scored 60% of their goals like that last season. This is an utter myth, Arsenal rarely blocked the keeper last season but did it most of the time in previous seasons (via Ben White mainly). Keepers were impeded more often by their own defenders than Arsenal players last season.
In any event before the tournament Collina said that if "the attacker clearly goes and illegally blocks the opponent; his only objective is to prevent the defender from being able to defend against his opponent.
“We are convinced that this goal cannot stand, it is completely unfair. We want the VAR to intervene even if a foul is committed just before the ball is in play. We are convinced nobody can object to that."
So that effectively constitutes a rule change that wasn't in effect before the WC and is referred to as screening or blocking.
Klopp also gave out about the disallowed goal saying that Arsenal scored 60% of their goals like that last season. This is an utter myth, Arsenal rarely blocked the keeper last season but did it most of the time in previous seasons (via Ben White mainly). Keepers were impeded more often by their own defenders than Arsenal players last season.
In any event before the tournament Collina said that if "the attacker clearly goes and illegally blocks the opponent; his only objective is to prevent the defender from being able to defend against his opponent.
“We are convinced that this goal cannot stand, it is completely unfair. We want the VAR to intervene even if a foul is committed just before the ball is in play. We are convinced nobody can object to that."
So that effectively constitutes a rule change that wasn't in effect before the WC and is referred to as screening or blocking.
I thought Arsenal only stopped blocking the goalkeeper about 10 games into last season.
Certainly the new rules for fouls at corners are a direct consequence of Arsenal's antics.
Certainly the new rules for fouls at corners are a direct consequence of Arsenal's antics.
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