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By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 03 Jul 26 11:34
Mexico have lost only twice in 89 competitive games since the Azteca was opened in 1966, its not going to be a shoe in ffs, England ranked 4th and Mexico are ranked 10.
It should be said of course that most of Mexico's competitive matches there have been against CONCAF opposition, hardly the strongest but its a good record nevertheless. And the strongest of those sides didnt have to qualify, USA and Canada.

The altitude has to give them an edge, it simply has to, they are acclamatised and we are not. They've had no travelling to do.

Despite their great record at the Azteca, they have lost 6 friendly games, but they drew 0-0 with Portugal, 1-1 with Belguim and beat Iceland 4-0 earlier this year.

Englands record away to Mexico isnt inspiring, even if the matches were a time ago - lost 2-1, drew 0-0 and lost 1-0.

And lest not forget - there may be extra time to contend with.

A hard game to predict but its difficult to work out why they have England as favourites.
By:
mesmerised
When: 03 Jul 26 12:17
Most of those 89 competitive games were in the second weakest qualification region for World Cups/Gold Cups against small Caribbean islands, Canada and USA for decades when they were 3rd world footballing countries, they rarely play opposition of England's calibre at home in competitive games. Just for Qualifying for the last world cup they only had to play Jamaica, Canada, Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama, the USA and El Salvador, what would be the European equivilent of that? the likes of Romania, Bulgaria, Finland, Iceland, Slovenia and the Faroes?

Their rankings is largely dictated by matches in this region, you only have to look at their poor World Cup history to see it's not that, 7 knockouts in the second round 7 world cups in a row, then out in the groups.

Even in the 70/86 World Cup, matches at the Azteca were not against any big dogs

Mexico's Azteca record at the World Cup
Mexico 0-0 Soviet Union (1970)Mexico 4-0 El Salvador (1970)Mexico 1-0 Belgium (1970)Mexico 2-1 Belgium (1986)Mexico 1-1 Paraguay (1986)Mexico 1-0 Iraq (1986)Mexico 2-0 Bulgaria (1986)Mexico 2-0 South Africa (2026)Mexico 3-0 Czechia (2026)Mexico 2-0 Ecuador (2026)

Only real problem for England is altitude, not the quality of Mexico.

Kind Regards
By:
GEESUSS
When: 03 Jul 26 13:04
To put things into perspective, the highest mountain in the UK is Ben Nevis which is 1,345 metres above sea level, the Aztek is 2,240m above sea level, not quite double, but not far off it. To me it is a leveler, England have by far the better players but the altitude will handicap them, it will come down to tactics and heart and I think there is too many players in your team who aren't as invested in England as your captain is, I saw to many players smiling and chumming it up with thier bro's at the end of the Ghana game where as Kane was stoney faced, just an observation, I'll be backing Mexico, if you loose it wouldn't be because of altitude though, imo.
By:
GEESUSS
When: 03 Jul 26 13:08
The Scots will be a lot higher than the Azteca on Monday morning if you get pumped mind, we'll be gasping for breath from laughing............................Excited
By:
mesmerised
When: 03 Jul 26 13:09
The same Jocks that were home before the postcards arrived again Laugh
By:
GEESUSS
When: 03 Jul 26 13:12
Saving a lot of money from travelling all over the America's for a competition we were never going to win.......Cool
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 03 Jul 26 13:24
The English have been laughing at you lot for centuries.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 03 Jul 26 13:45
Based on an analysis of 1,460 South American matches spanning over a century altitude is worth a 0.5 goal advantage for every 1,000m.  So Mexico have a 1.14 goal head start based on that.  Hopefully modern sports science and better preparation (although we keep hearing that they've had far from ideal preparation) can reduce that a bit.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 03 Jul 26 13:49
There's not a single Mexican player that gets in England's squad.  This isn't a great Mexican squad.  I think England are over a goal better than Mexico, but reading so much negativity around the altitude situation hard to know who should be faves for this game.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 03 Jul 26 13:51
The heat, the atmosphere, the altitude.  It's going to be tough.  WR of 10th.  Do me favour.  That's BS
By:
mesmerised
When: 03 Jul 26 13:57
https://www.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/news/2026/07/england-vs-altitude/
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 03 Jul 26 14:12
They prolly need to sit back and play on the break.  Preserve as much energy as possible.  If Mexico really were the 10th best International team they'd be big faves
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Jul 26 14:24
It won't be hot, but lack of oxygen a major problem unless they have lasse virens doctor.

You can't compete athletically at altitude if the other team are acclimatised and you are not.

You need 2 weeks, at least.

Poor planning, engerland could have stayed somewhere like denver to acclimatise. This
also gives advantage at sea level... Look up
altitude training.
By:
mesmerised
When: 03 Jul 26 14:39
yeah the most likely 2nd round match England was going to have pre-tournament, was Mexico at the Azteca
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 03 Jul 26 14:43
Need to also remember that this England team just isn't very good.


Back five is Europa League level.

Rice is knackered after a hard season.

Saka is clearly not fit.

Other wingers are garbage.

Basically it's the Jude and Harry show, and Harry is 43 and pacing himself when at sea level, while the backup players can't be guaranteed to kick a ball in a straight line.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Jul 26 14:56
Dan burn is used to playing at altitude.
By:
1st time poster
When: 03 Jul 26 15:20
always liked watching the mexicans at world cup,mbacked them to win the group,they played ok the other night,but i wasnt impressed with them in group stages and already backed ENG at 6/4 and will go in again if  any boosts on matchday
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 03 Jul 26 19:56
Kick off could be  moved forward by 6 hours
Because of heavy rain forecast

Heat at its most hottest
Pubs will be pleased!!!
Laugh
By:
duffy
When: 03 Jul 26 20:05
Brazil Norway set to kick off at 9.00pm our time, if they move England game there could be a clash if extra time
By:
Des Pond
When: 03 Jul 26 20:05
That will make it harder for England, hottest part of the day, as well as the altitude. England are definitely a better side that Mexico, but the conditions and the injuries could make it more of a coin toss.
By:
MrStrawMan
When: 03 Jul 26 20:06
Brazil game could be moved as well then
By:
duffy
When: 03 Jul 26 20:06
Right, so they'll shift the Brazil game further on
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 03 Jul 26 20:11
we've already had games delayed with thunderstorms surely the forecast was known for these games  ???
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 03 Jul 26 23:56
OK Guys
It was an April Fool
Start date is the original time
Laugh
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