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Do you lean on the sink for support when brushing your teeth Des?
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I remember Euro 96, that's the first tournament, just about old enough to remember Gazza being the length of a hair away from toe poking it in.
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Irony, dear boy, Irony.
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When pens don't go in with short Drogba type run up. "He should've took a longer run up". The run up is irrelevant. It's the execution that counts.
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no. i just take them out and rinse them.
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Short run ups don't let keepers have time to have a good guess at which way you're going by judging the way their body is shaping up, it's what they look at most
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If short run ups were guaranteed the best way, don't you think it would be the only way by now?
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Very practical Des
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top corner, if your aim is good enough, and put laces through it. make up your mind before you hit it.
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Players are thick dblurmunney, they want to do it their way, including chipping it down the middle and looking an absolute mug when the keeper stands still and catches it
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Always think hitting the ball hard into any corner
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Every player is diff. Some clearly execute better with long run up, while others do with short run up. Some players are now expert at watching keeper indicate which side he's about to dive, so they can slot into empty side.
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Any penalty aimed 4/5 feet off the ground and 4/5 feet inside the post, with a reasonable amount
of pace would be impossible for a goalie to save even if he guessed right. Gravity cannot be defied. This nonsense of trying to outwit the goal keeper with stutter steps is unbelievable coming from professional players. It can only be put down to one thing: trying to look clever. An 80 year old with arthritic knees could do better! |
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But if players all started practicing very short run ups, I would hazard a guess the conversion rate would increase
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An 80 year old with arthritic knees could do better! getting my hopes up there.
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Norway could've scored 3 or 4 with better finishing. That's my main concern about France winning the thing.
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That stadium tannoy noise does my feckin heed in man
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Statistically, long run-ups (six steps or more) are significantly better and yield higher conversion rates than short or stuttering run-ups. Have it, mesmerised!
Research analyzing thousands of professional penalty kicks reveals the following statistical differences: Long Run-ups: The International Journal of Performance Analysis in Sport analyzed penalties across Europe's top leagues and found that a long run-up is strongly associated with a successful penalty in all locations. Players generate higher, optimal power (approximately 75% of full pace) and maintain better striking accuracy. Short(mesmerised recommended) Run-ups: The same data shows that short run-ups are not statistically associated with successful penalties. While they are often utilized to try and manipulate the goalkeeper, they limit the player's time to adjust their body, often leading to telegraphed shots or less controlled strikes. Psychological Factors: Rushing or stalling on a run-up negatively impacts performance. Statistics show that taking more than 4.5 seconds between the referee's whistle and striking the ball (common with complicated, short, or stuttering runs) drops the likelihood of scoring from nearly 90% down to 61%. |
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Rograin is spot on
Half to 3/4 height plus 3/4 feet inside the post...almost impossible for a keeper to save...easy enough in training, bit harder on the pitch with a big crowd...the keeper looks bigger, the goal looks smaller |
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Bobb is having a good game
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Very interesting DBL. It'salso very unlikely that a player taking a long run up is going to side foot the ball.
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Who complied those stats, based on what leagues, what level of play, what period of time etc, far deeper analysis needed rather that cherry picked google searches to get the answer you want
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I imagine most of the data contained larger sample sizes of the longer to medium run up as that's how the majority take pens, far fewer players take shorter run ups
theory is, if everyone started practicing them a la Drogba, given the keeper little to no time to read body languge then the conversion rate will increase |
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Key Evidence from Research A 2020 study by Mikael Jamil and colleagues analyzed penalties across the English Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, and Serie A. It found:Long run-ups (>6 steps): Strongly associated with success in all leagues/countries studied.
Medium run-ups (2–5 steps): Successful in three of the four leagues. Short run-ups: Not associated with success (performed worse). This is one of the larger samples examining technique factors like run-up length. Longer approaches likely allow better rhythm, power generation, and consistency while making it harder for the goalkeeper to read the shot early. |
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Matt le Tiss knew how to take a penalty imo.
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Damp squib of a second half...
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Mes, trouble is these days, they all want to look cool...roll it in as the keeper dives the wrong way...I would feel pretty cool smashing it in, left right or centre as the goalie floundered
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As a France backer, I'm not happy with the chances they keep giving up. Might cost them against stronger teams.
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Le Tissier had a great pen record, but I think most of the keepers were s***, bit more sophisticated these days with their analysis.
If players all started shorter runs, that's a massive advantage over the keeper, it's what they have to practice, longer runs up may have performed better statistically but thats in large parts to most players not taking short runs up, it's uncommon. Start practicing them and England might start winning them. |
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No, Matt Le Tissier did not use a stutter or hesitation in his penalty run-up. Known as one of the greatest penalty takers in football history—converting 47 of 48 professional attempts for Southampton FC—he used a simple, confident, and direct approach.He would take a few steps back, pick a corner, and strike the ball with precision. His method relied on watching the goalkeeper and trusting his technique, allowing him to adjust the placement at the very last second if the goalkeeper committed too early. He was famously against "stutter-step" and flashy run-ups, often criticizing modern players for overcomplicating penalties.
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Some top keepers in them days,just as good as todays.
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Players almost willing to sell their soul to succeed with a Panenka! So many great ones over the years. But for me, the coolest, most effortless looking, disturbingly nonchalant one that is unlikely to ever be beaten, is Pirlo's in 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXFWmpB-cPQ |
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I would like to see a penalty aimed at a point 3/4 feet on a diagonal line drawn from the junction
of post and crossbar saved. I doubt it's ever happened since goalies always dive. |
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On this display France will not win the World Cup.
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Great lay price for you, SirNorbertClarke. Go ahead and place your nuts in the vice.
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wow
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1-4
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Good Goal?
Missed it making a tea. |
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Norway youngsters did alright.
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