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| 5.8 | Spain | 65 | Colombia | 390 | Scotland | 1000 | Curacao | |||
| 5.9 | France | 70 | Japan | 440 | Canada | 1000 | New Zealand | |||
| 9.4 | England | 85 | USA | 450 | Australia | 1000 | Tunisia | |||
| 9.8 | Portugal | 90 | Switzerland | 570 | Czechia | 1000 | Cape Verde | |||
| 11 | Brazil | 100 | Uruguay | 580 | South Korea | 1000 | Saudi Arabia | |||
| 12 | Argentina | 100 | Ecuador | 660 | Egypt | 1000 | Iraq | |||
| 18 | Germany | 100 | Turkey | 670 | Algeria | 1000 | Jordan | |||
| 21 | Netherlands | 130 | Senegal | 690 | Paraguay | 1000 | DR Congo | |||
| 40 | Norway | 140 | Croatia | 840 | Ghana | 1000 | Uzbekistan | |||
| 46 | Belgium | 270 | Austria | 860 | Bosnia | 1000 | Panama | |||
| 60 | Morocco | 300 | Ivory Coast | 1000 | Qatar | 1000 | Iran | |||
| 60 | Mexico | 310 | Sweden | 1000 | Haiti | 1000 | South Africa |
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Norway look good at 40 to me.
Also.. backed: Argentina, Germany, Japan, Ecuador, Uruguay, Croatia, South Korea, Egypt layed: Spain, England, Portugal, Netherlands, Morocco, Colombia, Mexico, USA, Turkey |
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what about france no bet?
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im big red on every team from norway down, including norway. the heat will get to them
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No bet yet Dragon, I think I will be a backer of France though
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In the last 4 world cups a 1 or 2 big nations have gone out in the group stage.
Though it looks hard to get knocked out of this one. |
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not seen anything for Norway to worry about so far
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They may as well give Norway the trophy now
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They may as well give Norway the trophy now
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I'll sleep better tonight after the second half from France.
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Tober, put your rod away
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no rod, most of my bets so far are backs of Norway
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I thought Norway would actually top the group as I fancied them to outscore France against Iraq and Senegal, now that France have scored 3 past Senegal not as likely. If the do finish 2nd, they'll probably come through a Ecuador or Ivory Coast, but then it's probably Brazil in the next round who would probably have found form by then, whilst anything can happen in a one off game, when you look at clubs all these Norweigans are actually playing for outside of the front 3, it's like a mid table Premier League side at best, against an elite CL level side, don't see where the confidence in them comes from unless you're expecting a sort of Maradonna dragging an average Argentina side to World Cup glory in 86 esque type run, because that'd be the equivilent. Good luck anyway, but can't see it myself.
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Argentina are ahead on points out of the teams we've seen so far, quick passing and moving between the lines, all the players look comfortable, France have individuals but this Argentina look like a "team".
At twice the price that is where the value looks to be at the moment. |
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Some possible challengers to Norway are emerging
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England very good, one of my bigger reds, had to back them a bit @7.8, think that could drop a few ticks in the next couple of hours
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England should be favourites
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Cant believe the price of argentina
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I think Spain and England will flip in the order so I'll tale 7.6 too
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Out of all the teams I've seen so far disregarding opposition, the most impressive I've seen so far in attack and defence, is Argentina.
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England just won a chaotic game, not really controlled, it remains to be seen how they perform against a technically superior team, Argentina were very comfortable on the ball and were able to play the ball into tight spots and maintain possession, England can't do that and it is precisely how we lost the first goal tonight.
If tonight is a template of how we win it, i.e. we turn games into typical EPL games then we will need a lot of luck against the more technical sides as playing open football against them will see us getting picked off. We'd probably be better off playing with two tight banks of defence and counter attacking with Madueke, Bellingham, Rashford and Kane. |
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the best england game ive seen in years fair play,
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On a par with England 5-1 Germany 2001 away, 4-1 Holland at Euro 96
But that defence and keeper is Conference level. Stones is a mostly a right hand-side of defence centre back for City and England, played on the left, Gordon down the left hand side must have had the fewest touches on the pitch as attacks werent not being funneled that way, mostly went out to Madueke, Stones used to playing it the other way, Guehi plays on the left hand side of a centre back pairing, used to passing and receiving the ball in those areas, why is he on the bench. Why is Tuchel obsessed with Stones, brought him to the World Cup un-match fit over Maguire, then actually starts him over Guehi, who's there and match fit. Drop Stones otherwise England will be KO'd again v the first half decent side in the tournament, probably Brazil in the quarters. Kind Regards. |
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I would think England's biggest problem will be playing a top team in the heat.
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England have now displaced Spain as 2nd favs
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That defence and keeper looks less solid than under Southgate and he played 2 DMs in front of it and had his wingers track back (apart from the last euros when they were exposed and conceded the first goal in the QF SF and final). All 6 goals in the Croatia game were awful from the defending team's point of view. That doesn't make England more likely to beat the top sides imo. But it's only 1 game and Tuchel will likely play a lot like Southgate in the KO rounds.
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Tuchel keeps emphasizing the "go for it" mentality which suggests that they won't be playing pragmatic Southgate type football, rather that they'll try and turn games into a helter skelter EPL style game which will cause its own problems as the better sides will be able to absorb that and play through us.
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Spain have now displaced England as 2nd favs.
Market so pathetically fickle. |
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Yep, Spain won't be winning, they haven't got enough game breakers to combat organizeation, they'll also be susceptible at the back to the counter attack against better sides.
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Whether they win it or not, the point stands it was laughable they were ever displaced by England in the 1st place. 1 game and we're already replacing the 30+ game unbeaten Euro winners, who presumably carried the same insufficient game breakers and defensive susceptibility back then? It's all a silly nonsense.
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nah I think England should be 2nd favs
The most likely way a favourite goes out is the passing around with 80% possession and you don't get the perfect threaded pass for the early goal, and it just drifts towards penalties. I can see that happening to Spain and Portugal, but not England as Tuchel wants them to go out on their shields. |
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I find the markets lack of faith in Norway disturbing.
Had to go in again @50 |
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As it stands, here are the likeliest knock out opponents for Argentina:
R32 - Cape Verde R16 - Belgium QF - Colombia A back at 7.8 now feels like an absolute gift and it would take a miracle not to lock in a decent profit. And the Yanks have a very favourable likely draw and are still overpriced. |
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Seemed odd that Portugal started off shorter odds than Argentina, now near double the price.
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Tale of two legends
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Tuchel wants them to go out on their shields.
England going out on their shields, Scotland going out shaking to Brazil |
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magic sign industry low on scotland to win the world cup.
200/1. you're spoiling us magic sign, we'd feel bad taking advantage of your unbelievable generosity |
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200/1 !!
there's someone on here offering 820.0 and nobody's interested .... |
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tobermory, anti-footballing your way to pens doesn't guarantee success. Arsenal can tell you that from their CL final loss. It's 50-50 at the least, with skill&composure tipping it in your favour. England played an ageing Croatia side willing to go man for man and play high up the pitch. Until they face a complete anti-football display, there's no telling how they'll get on.
Investing in Scotland OR England at whatever odds is certain to yield ZERO interest. At least for those backing Scotland their fantasy profits are much bigger. |