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Only been back in Serie A for two years after a 21 year hiatus.
Won 4-1 away at Jamie Vardy's Cremonese (who are relegated), meanwhile AC Milan lost 2-1 at home to Cagllari and they now drop down to the Europa League as do Juventus.
Something of a changing of the guard in Italy.
Won 4-1 away at Jamie Vardy's Cremonese (who are relegated), meanwhile AC Milan lost 2-1 at home to Cagllari and they now drop down to the Europa League as do Juventus.
Something of a changing of the guard in Italy.
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nice views from their stadium.
Back in the day the last games in Serie A were always won by the team that needed the win. You would see absurd short odds on rubbish teams but it was a pretty safe bet.
Seems that don't happen anymore with Cagilari winning
Back in the day the last games in Serie A were always won by the team that needed the win. You would see absurd short odds on rubbish teams but it was a pretty safe bet.
Seems that don't happen anymore with Cagilari winning
Today's results in England and Italy mean there could actually be a Mackem in Milan next season.
Don't think Como have really spent their way to the Champions League, they do have some good young players though.
Second top scorers in the division with 65 goals.
And they are managed by......Cesc Fabregas. The next Pep ?
Second top scorers in the division with 65 goals.
And they are managed by......Cesc Fabregas. The next Pep ?
Como 1907 is officially considered the club with the richest ownership in Italy. Backed by the Indonesian conglomerate Djarum Group, the club's owners—billionaire brothers Robert Budi and Michael Bambang Hartono—possess a combined net worth estimated at nearly $50b...
so yes and no...they are constrained by modern regs but in Italy such are the big club ownerships you can impact well beyond what the Saudi's can at N'castle..
so yes and no...they are constrained by modern regs but in Italy such are the big club ownerships you can impact well beyond what the Saudi's can at N'castle..
sounds like a fairytale story but they have an Indonesian Billionaire owner, since Fabregas took over in 23/24 which whem they started spending BIG, they are the 3rd biggest net spenders in the league, -220 mil euros, and they finished one place below that in 4th. Lecce last 5 years +50 mil euros and survive, Vardy's team creamonense and Pisa -50 mil and gone down. Juve and Milan only bigger spenders than Como last 3 years and finished 4th and 5th so I suppose Fabregas has at least outpeformed them. Apparently they have the NINTH highest wage bill, 47.8 mil euros, unless they start paying big money for big time players they will have a ceiling, need to match what top spenders Inter are offering, 141.5 mil euros, HUGE difference. Juve are the second biggest net spenders last 5 years, 256 mil euros and have 2nd highest wage bill, 123 mil euros, but finished outside of the Champions League places, that is a HUGE failure, I'd go and get Conte who's just left Napoli. What that calibre of coach and that kinda financial backing they'd probably win Serie A next year, but not Europe, his record in Europe is PAP.
6 of the starters for Como last night were 24 years old or younger. They have invested in young players who no doubt will have a big sell on value.
Personally i had never heard of any of their starting eleven before !
We have a number of teams in the EPL who cost a shed load of money but cannot function as a unit, Como have obviously recruited well and have a coach who can get his players to play as a team. As we are all aware, having rich owners is no guarantee of success. Regarding net spending, i'm presuming the players Como got rid of were maybe not worth a lot in the transfer market, given they had been plying their trade at a lower level ?
Personally i had never heard of any of their starting eleven before !
We have a number of teams in the EPL who cost a shed load of money but cannot function as a unit, Como have obviously recruited well and have a coach who can get his players to play as a team. As we are all aware, having rich owners is no guarantee of success. Regarding net spending, i'm presuming the players Como got rid of were maybe not worth a lot in the transfer market, given they had been plying their trade at a lower level ?
Pity our lot capitulated over the last 7 games Dixie, that could have been us.
I know you are probably in the 'Moyes' to stay camp (please correct me if I'm wrong) but I believe you are in a very small minority now. Yesterday was a great oppertunity to do something different and he went to type again apart from Barry who god knows why he was on instead of Beto. Patience is wearing thin amongst the fans and if he is to stay we need 6 or 7 new players but not ones like Soucek or Stones but young hungry talent that have pace. Unfortunately I dont think if he stays old journeymen is what we'll get and he'll last until no later than xmas if I was to bet on it.
I've got no real issue with DM Mr S, unfortunately Evertonians are notoriously lacking in patience. Can't agree with you that i am in a "small minority" being happy with him. There is of course a vocal minority who always shout louder and get heard above others, they are the ones who want him out. As with West Ham fans, be careful what you wish for.
We tried any number of new managers in between Moyes two tenures and look what good it did us, relegation battles and discontent. The owners need to back him in the summer and get fresh blood in. Then we can see if things improve or not.
Our squad is too thin, there was little on the bench yesterday that would have changed things although he could have started the young lad George. I too was surprised that Barry got given the nod to start, but maybe DM wanted to see if he rose to the challenge. He could be offloaded in the summer if an alternative is signed.
We tried any number of new managers in between Moyes two tenures and look what good it did us, relegation battles and discontent. The owners need to back him in the summer and get fresh blood in. Then we can see if things improve or not.
Our squad is too thin, there was little on the bench yesterday that would have changed things although he could have started the young lad George. I too was surprised that Barry got given the nod to start, but maybe DM wanted to see if he rose to the challenge. He could be offloaded in the summer if an alternative is signed.
Just go to Toffeeweb (I know its not the majority of Evertonians but it is the biggest fan site as far as I know) to see how unpopular he is. Anyway a big summer ahead of us and who knows who will be manager and what the squad will look like but enjoy the summer and the World Cup. The new season will be here before you can blink.
As with most forums of that nature, Toffeeweb will be dominated by people who want change. Others who are happy with the status quo are less likely to be bothered to go on there and say so. Fans would do well to remember that with DM at the helm we have never really had to worry about the drop, but we did in the decade before his first spell at Goodison and we certainly did during the recent "in between years".
The new season seems to come round quicker and quicker, maybe an age thing as years ago it seemed an eternity between the FA Cup final and the first day of the next campaign. Of course back in those days there was a clear definition between the cricket and football seasons, unlike today. The World Cup is so bloated now, i think many will lose interest especially if England underperform. should be some betting opportunities though
The new season seems to come round quicker and quicker, maybe an age thing as years ago it seemed an eternity between the FA Cup final and the first day of the next campaign. Of course back in those days there was a clear definition between the cricket and football seasons, unlike today. The World Cup is so bloated now, i think many will lose interest especially if England underperform. should be some betting opportunities though
Be interesting to see how corrupt the world cup will be have the betting companies taking over the world cup i ll be watching closely it could be the end of the beautiful game.
Whichever way it's spun, they're being bankrolled by a billionaire who's spent big on transfers the last 3 years hence their league position. They are roughly where they should be in the table.
Whichever way it's spun, they're being bankrolled by a billionaire who's spent big on transfers the last 3 years hence their league position. They are roughly where they should be in the table.
I didnt want Moyes back in the first place and certainly didnt want Dyche before him either. If supporting a football club is just about staying in the PL then I just don't see the point. A lot of money for little excitement.
Cremonese had 3 players sent off in 2 second half minutes 
Nico Paz was on loan and is back off to Real Madrid. He was the outstanding player in Serie A in the opening months of the season. If fully fit should really be playing instead of Messi for Argentina. So changing of the guard one year only imo. There will be a strong Italian contingent in Juve and AC Milan in the Europa League. Bournemouth and Sunderland watch out
Nico Paz was on loan and is back off to Real Madrid. He was the outstanding player in Serie A in the opening months of the season. If fully fit should really be playing instead of Messi for Argentina. So changing of the guard one year only imo. There will be a strong Italian contingent in Juve and AC Milan in the Europa League. Bournemouth and Sunderland watch out
2 of the reds were substitutes, so not as bad as it looked from the graphic. All for dissent at the award of a penalty
Susquehanna - a very simplistic view i'm afraid. A quick glance at the EPL table shows you that spending loads of money doesn't guarantee success, and nor should it. I would have thought a small club now being able to compete with the elite would be a good news story but you seem determined to belittle their progress.
I'm not sure what timeframe that net spend of 220m euros you refer to relates to ? They spent 107m in the 2025 summer window so i'm presuming your figure is over a longer period. Their net spend would be skewed by the fact they had no real cash to speak of coming in for players that were released.
It's no good spaffing huge sums of cash on players who can't play together very well. Liverpool being one example this season.
Como have recruited a number of young players who would not even have been household names in their own neighbourhood. Simply throwing money at big name targets would likely not have worked. Cesc and his backroom team have moulded this team in to a very good one in very quick time. They started building this team a few years ago from a very low base, of course they had to pay transfer fees like anyone else. Why should they have a ceiling to how far they can go ? The team has been on a rapid upward curve in recent years, why should it not continue ? Obviously they will be looking to recruit in order to strengthen further, but i doubt they will go out in search of big names unless those players will fit in nicely to their set up. There is of course always the possibility that some of their current young starlets could have their heads turned and move to "bigger" clubs. Let us hope that does not happen for once.
I'm not sure what timeframe that net spend of 220m euros you refer to relates to ? They spent 107m in the 2025 summer window so i'm presuming your figure is over a longer period. Their net spend would be skewed by the fact they had no real cash to speak of coming in for players that were released.
It's no good spaffing huge sums of cash on players who can't play together very well. Liverpool being one example this season.
Como have recruited a number of young players who would not even have been household names in their own neighbourhood. Simply throwing money at big name targets would likely not have worked. Cesc and his backroom team have moulded this team in to a very good one in very quick time. They started building this team a few years ago from a very low base, of course they had to pay transfer fees like anyone else. Why should they have a ceiling to how far they can go ? The team has been on a rapid upward curve in recent years, why should it not continue ? Obviously they will be looking to recruit in order to strengthen further, but i doubt they will go out in search of big names unless those players will fit in nicely to their set up. There is of course always the possibility that some of their current young starlets could have their heads turned and move to "bigger" clubs. Let us hope that does not happen for once.
Mr Spock - It's not just about staying in the EPL, i have never said that. But we have had to put up with that scenario many times since DM's first term ended.
What i have been saying is that the relegation worries in recent times have never happened with DM in charge. We consistently finished in the top 8 during his first term at the club. The last two seasons finishing 6th. Some supporters have short memories, we played some very decent stuff much of the time. Had he not moved on to Utd i believe we would have continued to be in and around the European places each year rather than fighting against the drop.
In any case, who could we get in to replace DM at the moment ? Any names spring to mind (who would be willing and available) ?
What i have been saying is that the relegation worries in recent times have never happened with DM in charge. We consistently finished in the top 8 during his first term at the club. The last two seasons finishing 6th. Some supporters have short memories, we played some very decent stuff much of the time. Had he not moved on to Utd i believe we would have continued to be in and around the European places each year rather than fighting against the drop.
In any case, who could we get in to replace DM at the moment ? Any names spring to mind (who would be willing and available) ?
I didnt say you said that but sorry Dixie the guy belongs in the past, one tin pot trophy in how many years? Theres 2 currently available Glasner and Iraola for starter. If the owners have any ambition (and I'm beginning to wonder if we are just a cash cow with the new stadium) they will go out and get one of them (Glasner would be my choice). Why would they come, ask Ancellotti they all have a price.
Everton have failed to qualify for Europe - this will put off some would be managers for a start.
I liked Carlo but we only got him as he had just got the tin tack from Napoli and was happy to walk straight in to another job when no others would have been on the horizon. And of course we only finished mid table in the two seasons he was here, no different really from what we are getting from DM. And we only scored 47 goals in his second season, same as this season under DM
Glasner would be a possible as he apparently would be happy to stay in the EPL with a "bigger club", whether we fit that classification for him is debatable.
No chance with Iraola i fear, bookies have him odds on to go to our lovely Red neighbours should Arnie get the bullet.
In any case i fully expect to see DM continue in charge, there is very little speculation at the moment to the contrary apart from a number of vociferous fans on forums.
At present i too have some doubts about how willing the new owners are to put their hands in their pockets to finance new signings . DM certainly wants a few new faces in so we will see if they back him or not in the months ahead.
I liked Carlo but we only got him as he had just got the tin tack from Napoli and was happy to walk straight in to another job when no others would have been on the horizon. And of course we only finished mid table in the two seasons he was here, no different really from what we are getting from DM. And we only scored 47 goals in his second season, same as this season under DM
Glasner would be a possible as he apparently would be happy to stay in the EPL with a "bigger club", whether we fit that classification for him is debatable.
No chance with Iraola i fear, bookies have him odds on to go to our lovely Red neighbours should Arnie get the bullet.
In any case i fully expect to see DM continue in charge, there is very little speculation at the moment to the contrary apart from a number of vociferous fans on forums.
At present i too have some doubts about how willing the new owners are to put their hands in their pockets to finance new signings . DM certainly wants a few new faces in so we will see if they back him or not in the months ahead.
His answer to the question at the begining of the video about not understanding fans frustration shows he needs to fck off. Number of times ive felt like slitting me wrists watching this shower of shhhyyyte this season you could counton 6 hands.
https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC/videos/i-dont-understand-it-really-david-moyes-on-fan-frustration-and-evertons-season-o/2903100590044053/
https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC/videos/i-dont-understand-it-really-david-moyes-on-fan-frustration-and-evertons-season-o/2903100590044053/
It's just not a fairytale story, they released loads of players so they can buy a whole raft of new players thanks to the billionaire owner, which since Cesc took over, according to transfermarkt, they actually top the list during that 3 year period 23/24 til now, -221 mil euros net, second is - 159 mil Juve, third 137 mil Milan, then less than 100 mil Napoli. Can't give a pat on the back for that just because others haven't made par, they've spent big, gained CL place, not exactly a rags to riches story is it.
1830 - and how did you feel between 2016 and January 2025 watching the team ? Ecstatic at the wondrous performances unfolding before your eyes ?
the 'problem' with Moyes is he is a high floor/low ceiling manager. Some fans are OK with that.
If Roberto Martinez or Marco Silva had 13 seasons at Everton maybe they might get you in the CL a couple of times, or win an FA Cup.
Though more likely to have bad runs/relegation drama when things go wrong.
If Roberto Martinez or Marco Silva had 13 seasons at Everton maybe they might get you in the CL a couple of times, or win an FA Cup.
Though more likely to have bad runs/relegation drama when things go wrong.
If you told me Moyes will be Everton manager for the next 5 seasons I'd be confident in predicting 8th-12th place every season and mostly early cup exits with maybe one semi final.
a lot of fans would rather twist than stick presented with that
tobermory, how many trophies or indeed near misses did the club have between the two Moyes tenures ?
About the same as we did with him in charge is the answer.
However, the crucial difference is we had a number of battles against the drop in the intervening years.
Under DM we have had zero of those.
There are plenty of fans who value the stability he brings, you just don't hear them as much as the gobby ones who want him out.
About the same as we did with him in charge is the answer.
However, the crucial difference is we had a number of battles against the drop in the intervening years.
Under DM we have had zero of those.
There are plenty of fans who value the stability he brings, you just don't hear them as much as the gobby ones who want him out.
I would have more sympathy for the call to get rid of DM from certain fans, if they were not the same individuals who basically hounded out every other manager who came in to the club between 2013 and 2025, Carlo excepted.
Martinez, Koeman, Silva, Benitez, Dyche, Lampard and of course Big Sam.
Martinez, Koeman, Silva, Benitez, Dyche, Lampard and of course Big Sam.
Silva should have been given more time, Frank I think was wrong place wrong time. Benitez and Alladyce are not worth my comments, Martinez had us playing well but eventually couldnt defend and Koeman spent a load of money mostly on dross apart from Gueye, Pickford and Calvert-Lewin. Dyche kept us up against the odds but thats his forte.
Liverpool have won 16 major trophies since our FA Cup win in 1995, thats why most of the fans are pi$$ed off and Davy isnt going to change that.
1830 - and how did you feel between 2016 and January 2025 watching the team ? Ecstatic at the wondrous performances unfolding before your eyes ?
So what happened to those Managers then they get fcked off so why should Moyes stay.
Martinez got fcked off cos he overachieved first season.
Silva No money.
Koeman never got backed when he wanted Giroud when we needed someone to hold the ball up who went on to have 3 or 4 superb seasons at other clubs.
Allardayce was there less than a year got us to 8th and statistically in terms of possesion, shots, goals per game possesion was better than Moyes.
Ancelloti We were fighting for champions league with 5 games to go first season and had Calvert Lewin one of the 3 worst CF ive seen in 50 odd years playing for Everton and that includes Bernie fckin Wright but now matched by Beto and Barry scoring by telling him where to play and how. Also brought in James Rodriguez possibly the best but never saw cos of COVID.
Dyche done what he was brought in to do said I cant do anymore with this shower and got off.
We were not in Europe this year but we won 2 game in a row so Moyes the arrogant cnt goes to Wolves in the League Cup and changes the whole team to give them a rest wed and we were shyyte and clueless and got done.
FA Cup WTF was that brought on Aznou who banged some life into us so we go out but the lad been seen since probably ruined his confidence.
only played about 6 fckin games
All he is interested in is defending and trying to sneak a goal and then tighten up instead of going for a second.
Have you ever seen him and Irvine talking on the touchline fckin clueless Irvine doesnt even open his Mouth hes like a puppet wth no string in his mouth.
Boring as fck and £70 for an hour and a half of Shyyte.
The only reason we picked up slightly was Grealish injured and things didnt become even slower.
Wolves at Home 1 0 up they get on top and what did do waits for them to score and then changes things, WTF everyone could see what was happening.
He is out of date with all his methods and tactics.
Get him out now or we will be back facing relegation next year.
And by the way a couple of times when Moyes was there first time we finished around 4th or fifth from bottom.
So what happened to those Managers then they get fcked off so why should Moyes stay.
Martinez got fcked off cos he overachieved first season.
Silva No money.
Koeman never got backed when he wanted Giroud when we needed someone to hold the ball up who went on to have 3 or 4 superb seasons at other clubs.
Allardayce was there less than a year got us to 8th and statistically in terms of possesion, shots, goals per game possesion was better than Moyes.
Ancelloti We were fighting for champions league with 5 games to go first season and had Calvert Lewin one of the 3 worst CF ive seen in 50 odd years playing for Everton and that includes Bernie fckin Wright but now matched by Beto and Barry scoring by telling him where to play and how. Also brought in James Rodriguez possibly the best but never saw cos of COVID.
Dyche done what he was brought in to do said I cant do anymore with this shower and got off.
We were not in Europe this year but we won 2 game in a row so Moyes the arrogant cnt goes to Wolves in the League Cup and changes the whole team to give them a rest wed and we were shyyte and clueless and got done.
FA Cup WTF was that brought on Aznou who banged some life into us so we go out but the lad been seen since probably ruined his confidence.
only played about 6 fckin games
All he is interested in is defending and trying to sneak a goal and then tighten up instead of going for a second.
Have you ever seen him and Irvine talking on the touchline fckin clueless Irvine doesnt even open his Mouth hes like a puppet wth no string in his mouth.
Boring as fck and £70 for an hour and a half of Shyyte.
The only reason we picked up slightly was Grealish injured and things didnt become even slower.
Wolves at Home 1 0 up they get on top and what did do waits for them to score and then changes things, WTF everyone could see what was happening.
He is out of date with all his methods and tactics.
Get him out now or we will be back facing relegation next year.
And by the way a couple of times when Moyes was there first time we finished around 4th or fifth from bottom.
I don't disagree with most of that Mr S, except Koeman deserved longer as well.
The point is most of those got the bullet due to the fans being disgruntled. They have no patience, the squad is too thin, silk purses and sow's ears etc
Howard K would never have got the time to build his brilliant 80s squad in today's climate.
The point is most of those got the bullet due to the fans being disgruntled. They have no patience, the squad is too thin, silk purses and sow's ears etc
Howard K would never have got the time to build his brilliant 80s squad in today's climate.
Moyes is just too stubbaorn to change. O'Brien at RB hasnt worked but he still persists in it. Tarkowski and Keane at CBs must be the slowest pairing in the league and leak goals for fun. Pickford has started to get the wobbles now and Mykylenko shouldnt be anywhere near the club but looks like he's getting a contract extention. The last 7 games was relegation form but he mostly picked the same team week in week out, just so predictable. Good job we had a good run of games early on otherwise we would have been staring relegation square in the face.
And the previous 31 games was European qualification form Mr S
See, we can all play that game and cherry pick segments of the season to suit our narrative.
If the VAR officials had done their job properly we would likely have beaten City and got at least a point at W Ham.
Branthwaite was a massive loss at the back in the last few games, we would definitely have picked up points with him at the back imo.
See, we can all play that game and cherry pick segments of the season to suit our narrative.
If the VAR officials had done their job properly we would likely have beaten City and got at least a point at W Ham.
Branthwaite was a massive loss at the back in the last few games, we would definitely have picked up points with him at the back imo.
Ifs, buts and maybe's but the table doesnt lie I'm afraid.
Correct Mr S and the table shows we were nowhere near relegation 
Is that all we aspire to every season though, not to be battling for relegation each year. As I said previously its an expensive pastime to follow and be content with mediocrity.
1830 - Moyes should stay because he hasn't yet got the club in a downward spiral and facing relegation.
I would never have sacked Martinez, like you say a victim of his own early success but he deserved another season at least.
Koeman should obviously have been given longer but i'm not sure Giroud would have been his saviour, it was the defence that was shaky at the time.
Allardyce was also hard done by having guided the club to safety comfortably, but the fans didn't want him did they ? Again.
However, you mention all those stats he was better than Moyes at, but missed out probably the most important one - win percentage. Moyes is higher than Sam in both of his periods in charge.
The Wolves game in the cup, six of the team were regulars last season, then early in the second half Ndiaye, Grealish, KDH and Beto came on with Wolves 1 up. So Moyes made pretty early changes and yet to no effect, they had plenty of time to get us back in the game but in fact it was Wolves who scored again.
As for Aznou ? One half decent cameo when the side were chasing an equalizer does not make him Roberto Carlos. Yes he looked lively going forward but what is his defending like ? That is what he will need to do as a LB. In time hopefully we will find out, will be interesting to see if he plays in the World Cup for Morocco.
I would never have sacked Martinez, like you say a victim of his own early success but he deserved another season at least.
Koeman should obviously have been given longer but i'm not sure Giroud would have been his saviour, it was the defence that was shaky at the time.
Allardyce was also hard done by having guided the club to safety comfortably, but the fans didn't want him did they ? Again.
However, you mention all those stats he was better than Moyes at, but missed out probably the most important one - win percentage. Moyes is higher than Sam in both of his periods in charge.
The Wolves game in the cup, six of the team were regulars last season, then early in the second half Ndiaye, Grealish, KDH and Beto came on with Wolves 1 up. So Moyes made pretty early changes and yet to no effect, they had plenty of time to get us back in the game but in fact it was Wolves who scored again.
As for Aznou ? One half decent cameo when the side were chasing an equalizer does not make him Roberto Carlos. Yes he looked lively going forward but what is his defending like ? That is what he will need to do as a LB. In time hopefully we will find out, will be interesting to see if he plays in the World Cup for Morocco.
Oh, and btw - Moyes finished 15th in his first season but that was because he only took over with nine games to go from Walter. Thankfully he oversaw 4 wins in the remaining 9 games to lift us away from the relegation zone.
The 17th place was in 2004 but there was never any chance of relegation, finished six points clear of 18th despite losing the last four games.
The next year we finished 4th
Apart from those early days, Everton never finished lower than 11th during Moyes first spell in charge.
The 17th place was in 2004 but there was never any chance of relegation, finished six points clear of 18th despite losing the last four games.
The next year we finished 4th
Apart from those early days, Everton never finished lower than 11th during Moyes first spell in charge.
Aznou aint going WC hes posted online cos he has played about 30 minutes all season could have something to do with it.
You can defend him all you want about us not going down.
We all know the 3 that come up all go back down apart from this season.
If you are happy to watch shyyte every game and pay £70 and hate what your watching thats up to you.
Im not get the lad from Southampton in I say.
You can defend him all you want about us not going down.
We all know the 3 that come up all go back down apart from this season.
If you are happy to watch shyyte every game and pay £70 and hate what your watching thats up to you.
Im not get the lad from Southampton in I say.
Fans have been paying to watch very average stuff for years now, it's not unique to Moyes.
And there's been plenty of dross throughout the EPL this season !
We certainly need strengthening in the summer. a couple of full backs and at least one striker are priority, as well as ensuring Ndiaye and Garner stay.
And there's been plenty of dross throughout the EPL this season !
We certainly need strengthening in the summer. a couple of full backs and at least one striker are priority, as well as ensuring Ndiaye and Garner stay.
Moyes plays the percentages, it's a method that works
in Premier league.
He's a good manager, maybe never going to be
top drawer, but never had the chance.
in Premier league.
He's a good manager, maybe never going to be
top drawer, but never had the chance.
Well he wasn't given the same chance that Fergie had Mr S !
Imagine if he'd have got the elbow after 9 months, football history would likely read very differently.
Imagine if he'd have got the elbow after 9 months, football history would likely read very differently.
Yeah man utd had run down, hadn't it?
Fergie managed to get every last drop out of them to win league.
Moyes on a hiding to nothing more than a chance
Fergie managed to get every last drop out of them to win league.
Moyes on a hiding to nothing more than a chance
I've only been to Old Trafford once yhtl, just happened to be Fergie's first ever home game v QPR in Nov 86.
We were oop north for the Merseyside Derby which had been switched to the Sunday for tv so took the chance to go there.
Utd won 1 nil via Johnny Sivebaek's free kick. The crowd was somewhat muted even though a new manager was in situ, as you say Utd were not in a good place and hopes were not high. As we know it took nearly 4 years to win the FA Cup and then it was forever upwards for them under Fergie. He would never have got that time to build a team today. £2.75 to stand on the Stretford End in them days
The derby on the Sunday was a Nil Nil , not the most thrilling of weekends
We were oop north for the Merseyside Derby which had been switched to the Sunday for tv so took the chance to go there.
Utd won 1 nil via Johnny Sivebaek's free kick. The crowd was somewhat muted even though a new manager was in situ, as you say Utd were not in a good place and hopes were not high. As we know it took nearly 4 years to win the FA Cup and then it was forever upwards for them under Fergie. He would never have got that time to build a team today. £2.75 to stand on the Stretford End in them days
The derby on the Sunday was a Nil Nil , not the most thrilling of weekends
I've been to OT for cricket more often than for football
and never saw Newcastle win there, sadly.
I've not been to away football matches in years, so
unlikely I ever see it.
Mid 80s it was easy to get tickets anywhere, English disease
stopped loads of folk going, and streets were full of
American football chite.
and never saw Newcastle win there, sadly.
I've not been to away football matches in years, so
unlikely I ever see it.
Mid 80s it was easy to get tickets anywhere, English disease
stopped loads of folk going, and streets were full of
American football chite.
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