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15 May 26 16:03
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Middlesbrough have issued a statement in which they call for Southampton's expulsion from the Championship play-off final.

Boro will not be permitted to take part in the hearing brought by the EFL over Saints' alleged spying at their Rockliffe Park training ground last Thursday in the build-up to the first leg of their play-off semi-final at the Riverside.

They describe the conduct as going against "sporting integrity and fair competition" and believe that a sporting sanction is the only fair outcome.

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By:
Jinxy1
When: 15 May 26 16:04
Statement even!!

To be fair to them, they have a point. Or is it a step to far to kick Southampton out?
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 26 16:07
It's not a step too far to listen to boro evidence

Were the routines new, etc etc
By:
Jinxy1
When: 15 May 26 16:13
Middlesbrough have called for Southampton to be expelled from the Championship play-off final over the Spygate saga that has dominated the English football League's end-of season showpiece.

Southampton beat Boro in extra-time in the second leg to reach the Wembley final on Saturday, 23 May against Hull City - but that may have to be rescheduled depending on the outcome of an independent panel's hearing.

Boro will not be permitted to take part in the hearing brought by the EFL over Saints' alleged spying at their Rockliffe Park training ground last Thursday in the build-up to the first leg of the play-off semi-final at the Riverside.

They describe the conduct as going against "sporting integrity and fair competition", external and believe that a sporting sanction is the only fair outcome.

The hearing, conducted by an independent disciplinary committee, will take place on or before Tuesday, 19 May.

But with Middlesbrough not allowed to be present, they are calling on the EFL to expel Southampton from the play-offs in the interests of fairness and to deter clubs from trying anything similar in future.

The statement added: "We remain hopeful that the EFL, as regulator, will pursue such a sanction to protect the integrity of the game, safeguard all member clubs, and deter any attempt in the future to obtain an unfair and unlawful advantage in pursuit of promotion to the Premier League."
By:
Jinxy1
When: 15 May 26 16:16
EFL rule 127: 'Without prejudice to the requirements of Regulation 3.4 (that each Club shall behave towards each other Club with the utmost good faith), no Club shall directly or indirectly observe (or attempt to observe) another Club's training session in the period of 72 hours prior to any match scheduled to be played between those respective Clubs.'
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 15 May 26 16:19
... Seems they want their cake and eat it, if they dont get the result from an INDEPENDENT panel they will also cry off to the EFL.
By:
Jinxy1
When: 15 May 26 16:21
A few years ago we were fined £200k for spying on Derby County and Bielsa openly admitted that we had spyed on lots of teams that season, there were no rules then of course but I would find it hard to believe that the penalty for spying would now be as harsh as points deductions or a team being kicked out. Surely it will be a fine albeit it quite a large fine.
By:
Jinxy1
When: 15 May 26 16:47
Neither club will be able to appeal, decision is final.
By:
MrStrawMan
When: 15 May 26 16:52
All it needed at the end of that rule is , 3 points will be deducted if a league game and to be kicked out if play offs . no ambiquity just that is what will happen
By:
Jinxy1
When: 15 May 26 16:53
Sounds like Middlesbrough are trying to dictate to the EFL, that surely will be frowned upon.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 26 17:02
I thought there was no appeal against the appeal, so
sounds like an appeal is possible

Reading Dale Johnson on bbc.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 26 17:03
Boro have signed up nick Di Marco, so top guy.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 26 17:08
The first hearing needs to take place sooner rather than later, as all parties categorised by the independent disciplinary commission as holding an interest must have the right of appeal
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 15 May 26 17:09
Last one now on bbc ^^^
By:
MrStrawMan
When: 15 May 26 17:12
Just a simple line at the end would end all this , these people are paid millions and cant do a basic thing , also what is the position do southampton get kicked out or do Middlesbrough replace them , the efl will want a final and the money from it so basically they are choosing who plays hull .
By:
11kv
When: 18 May 26 18:22
Will be a large fine and rule change.

Printing etc for programmes etc already completed,so will not get kicked out.

Premier league have no
interest so no points deduction if they go up.

Shambles of a league imo
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 18 May 26 22:58
EFL have made themselves look bigger mugs than the inept "spy" ever was,  I am guessing the vast majority of Saints fans (myself included) want to see a fair outcome if indeed any offence took place.

If it turns out this "spy" was infact working as a club employee at the time and the club/Manager knew then I for one wouldnt argue the case for expulsion.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 18 May 26 23:03
* Argue against the case
By:
11kv
When: 19 May 26 11:44
Any news ?
By:
Jinxy1
When: 19 May 26 17:06
Fate to be announced tomorrow I think 11kv.

Odds for promotion at the moment:

Saints 1.63
Hull 3.1
Middlesbrough 8.0
By:
Trackman
When: 19 May 26 18:45
soton kicked out
By:
loui
When: 19 May 26 18:47
Treegate means Middlesbrough back in the final then
By:
Trackman
When: 19 May 26 18:48
Odds for promotion at the moment:

Saints 50.0
Hull 2.9
Middlesbrough 1.55
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 May 26 18:48
Boro 1.5 lol... Somebody getting out
By:
Trackman
When: 19 May 26 18:49
I'm out @1.75
By:
11kv
When: 19 May 26 19:01
Well well
By:
Trackman
When: 19 May 26 19:01
A 4 point deduction at the start of next season as well.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 May 26 19:01
I suspect you is greening, not desperately redding out
don't forget the appeal MischiefWink
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 May 26 19:06
They seem to come up with more outrageous decisions by the day
By:
Bish Bosher
When: 19 May 26 19:24
Not much time for the smogs to buy tickets and a stay over if required; wembley will be carnage
By:
penzance
When: 19 May 26 19:28
Do away with the Final & let Hull come straight up.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 May 26 19:32
I wonder if somebody tipped off boro, or if they just recognised him
as being employed as a Southampton tactics coach.
By:
Jinxy1
When: 19 May 26 19:56
Punishment seems a bit harsh to me.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 May 26 19:58
Benefit of cheating was £100m, what punishment would you like

I blame Leeds for getting caught, and causing this

Laugh
By:
Trackman
When: 19 May 26 20:00
Dirty Leeds
By:
Jinxy1
When: 19 May 26 20:05
Laugh

Marching on Together.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 May 26 20:12
What do Roger Moore and Southampton FC have in common? -



























Both Saints and Spies
By:
Jinxy1
When: 19 May 26 20:14
Dont give up the day job.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 19 May 26 20:15
I already did,... But point taken.
By:
kingscrewed
When: 19 May 26 20:17
Could be a can of worms here, will Wrexham claim they should of been in the playoffs due to saints allegedly have done it a few times. Would be quiet ironic after Steve Gibson (Boro chairman) threatened to sue Derby a few years ago saying due to Derby over spending cost Boro a play off place.
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