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100% agree. It's the only solution imo
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Another thing with this idea is that there is no added time. Everyone reading from the same page.
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This would take away the Ref's power to give the team he wants to win a minute or two extra added time.
We can't possibly allow that! |
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but the Mighty Gunners can pass the ball about to each other for 35 minutes.
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Players will still stop the game to kill momentum, like they do at all levels. IFAB mugs act like they've never played the game.
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Teams playing energetic press stop game to get a rest
and get back into position. They want the time added on, and as per lurka, they want timeout to stifle opposition. The recent law change to speed up goalies getting ball back into play quicker has been a big success, so you'd think they'd be keen to use similar to speed up goal kicks, throw ins, and free kicks... Rather than allow the delays and add on time, or stop clock as would be. |
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Works in Ice Hockey , and American Football.
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Adopt the sin bin too.
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the games are mind-numbing enough without making them 2 hours long.
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They're almost that now!
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Not sure I'd like the sin bin, but replacing a sent-off player may appeal. Red cards kill games.
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you lads watch football for gambling and enjoyment, I'm only in it for the money and despise the game.
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Only a few days ago folks on here crying because ref didnt give a bloke more than a minute to tie his laces!
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PLAYER,s WILL STILL STOP THE GAME
that's the whole point they can stop it as much as they like but even it takes 3 hrs we still get 35mins play ew, the clock is stopped every time the balls not in play,what's the point in stopping play/wasting time if your still playing 35 mins |
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To recover from your highly energetic full press.
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To slow down a team that's getting on top
Derrr |
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Leave the game alone.
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that's up to them as long as I,m getting the 70 mins play I've paid for,they can knock themselves out and take 5 hrs to complete it for me, we,re currently getting 28 mins a half for over a 100 mins
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what's the point in stopping play/wasting time if your still playing 35 mins
Just answering your question!!! |
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Play 30 minute halves (if currently it's 28 in play). Blow whistle the minute the ball goes out after the 30 minute timer (like in rugby). Been saying this for decades. A very obvious solution.
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One thing is for sure, the time it takes for throw ins, free kicks corners to be taken is far too long and has become a blight on the game, something definitely needs to be done.
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Long throws allow an age for defenders to get forward
Ref won't allow same time for defending team to get ball back into play from throw in. Just saying. |
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As I said at the start, I'm all for it. 30-35 minutes is fine by me. It's rare, but on occasions the Americans have got it sussed.
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If you can't get ball into play after 20 seconds give
it to other team. You won't need a time keeper. |
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True.
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Rather see the clock. Who's gonna keep counting 20 seconds?
According to Copilot there are an average of 35 throw-ins per game in the PL... that's a lot of counting for a dear old ref to consider. |
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Ref can count to 20 when ball is out of play
Usually has 2 or 3 watches May as well use them. |
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Time wasting is obliterated with the clock.
Imagine a team, 1-0 up with 1 minute to play. They get a throw-in, high up the pitch, and they know they can virtually cut that time in half with just one stall. I think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one yhtl. |
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No, I'm still with you on the clock, that's great.
Then we need to stop game delay on top of the clock. |
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My players are tired, let's take 3 minutes at throw in.
The other team are getting on top, let's take 2 minutes at this goal kick. The ref counting down goalie hanging onto ball has been a spectacular success |
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Stopping the clock definitely won't work, it might mean that you get the full amount of play but it will make the messing about inbetween even more longer as the sides can just turn around to the ref when hurried along and say, what are you worried about, the clock is stopped isn't it.
It's not just about the preservation of the actual playing time, if it takes an exorbitant amount of time to achieve it then it has failed. |
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Yeah, following you now yhtl. A time countdown does work under those circumstances.
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You can't have repeated countdowns everytime the ball goes out of play though either, it would be farcical and what you'll start to see more of is pretendee injuries which does seem to hamstrung officials.
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If the players want to play all night then that's a relevant point duffy, but would it really be that bad?
Debateable though. |
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If they want a player treated on pitch then if there's no
contact that's caused it then give the other team the ball. |
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The non-stop nature of football is part of the game. It's a contest of fitness/endurance too. We've already had VAR significantly impacting this.
I suspect they want to eventually have it like US sports with 4 periods and a lot more ad time, that's how they can get more from tv cos. The americans own a huge chunk of the game now and they've already tried the Super League with US banks backing it. Local fans are not that important to them any more and are often viewed as pests. Boehly has a stake in an unauthorised ticket reselling site selling tickets to foreign fans. The fact that the way IFAB want to go about it doesn't disincentivise time wasting makes me more suspicious of this. More stoppages/periods leads to more tv revenue and much longer games. 35 mins per half is far too long, around 30 is about right for the ball being in-play. Or 4 periods of 15 mins which is the direction this is going. |
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What we've also seen this season with the proliferation of the long throw is the accompanied fuzzy nostalgic warmth, harking back to the good old days that has come along with it, this in itself means that these instances are going to be tolerated more by officials as they sense that it is enjoyed by the masses.
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yes duffy your right,if the truth was told theres nothing more boring or tedious than them.
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In all honesty I don't mind them it's just the drag whilst we wait for them to be taken is the problem. The free kick is now another "event" where the combatants are trying to make out that they are playing out some sort of highly technical NFL style play, particularly from Arsenal where we even get the cut to the touchline where we see the set piece coach trying to look important as he waves his arms about whilst instructing the free kick taker to, in a technical way you understand, kick it into the box whilst "his", because for that precious moment in time they are very much, his players, all rush en masse toward the ball.
This piece symphonic artwork all takes an absolute age to play out and bores the bl00dy pants off most of us. |