PREMIER LEAGUE: ROUND 6

Works every time

I was sat celebrating that I'd taken Watkins out of my team and hadn't even finished the sentence as he was scoring

Villa have had their keeper bring a player down in the box, have blocked an on target shot with an outstretched hand and have had an assist with a handball and the result of which they have had no penalties against and had a goal awarded.....go figure

apparently not many Arsenal fans at the game, lots of cancelled trains.

Bookies say not many goals

This game's got 0-0 written all over it

hold the phone, pen

Dying swan Gyokeres

Pope almost killed him with that challenge, 100% pen

Couldn’t believe the commentators didn’t spot that he got the ball.

This is ridiculous ref stopped the game arsenal player had the ball fookin corrupt

crazy decision, should bbe pen and red card, the fact that he had to look at it 10 times proves the touch it wasn't clear and obvious.....total nuts.

Howard Webb is somewhere in the country sinking into another depression, yet another VAR controversy he's going to have to come out and apologise for

looked like a pen at first view, but Gyokeres was too theatrical with the dive, and he had lost control of the bal, tricky one. as an unders backer I'll say the decision was right.

F*** me

That was a stone wall penalty.

Isn't the law that it's no foul if the challenge gets the ball, irrelevant of future contact on the player they're challenging in the same motion ? That's my understanding in which case it's no penalty

if there was no foul why did he stop the game surely play on and then var gets involved they changing rules every game ffs

Even if you judge that pope touched the ball he still fouled the player and prevented him from chasing the ball down, two penalties.

Gyokeres crashed into him he wasn’t fouled

Pope stopped Gykores's run and had no chance to make contact with the ball, even if he did make contact that was ball to foot rather than the way round. Stockley Park mugs sitting there in their Liverpool jerseys.

Natural positions are popular today

Law 12 – Fouls and Misconduct states that a tackle is fair if:

1. The player plays the ball first, or


2. They get a clear touch on the ball while making a challenge.



A foul occurs if the tackle is careless, reckless, or uses excessive force, regardless of whether the ball is touched.

so it was a definite pen then going by Law 12.

Sep 28, 2025 -- 4:51PM, abba21 wrote:

if there was no foul why did he stop the game surely play on and then var gets involved they changing rules every game ffs

The ref thought there was a foul as probably didn't see the touch or still deemed it carless/reckless and then was dissuaded in discussions or with the slow mo

****d should be getting it on target there.

at least make the keeper save it

trosserd

Sep 28, 2025 -- 4:53PM, mesmerised wrote:

so it was a definite pen then going by Law 12.

It's a grey area I think

Does Pope get a clear touch ? He touches it but it's not a hugely effective touch

Is the tackle careless or reckless ? I don't think so. Keeper is making a fair effort to get the ball which he does get a touch on

I personally find it a bit ambiguous so it's a hard call. I would say no penalty personally as it's a fair tackle and he contacts the ball first

i must say I struggle to see the touch, but it wasn't a terrible challenge either, Gyokeres showing his lack of prem experience, You need to make your dives more convincing.

Based on what I've seen so far, doesn't look like we'll concede, WolterMitty looks like a massive downgrade on Isak, he doesn't have the same pace or dynamic movement.

Big German looks out of place...

Pmsl

Pmsl

1-0 ffs

Great header ! Take a bow !

Big fella on the scoresheet

Only Arsenal players allowed to push at corners

Based on what I've seen so far, Woltermade looks like a terrific signing and will probably score against us today

no penalty, the referee had an awful lot of problems to solve. Player was through on goal, the foul looked unintentional. It did look a penalty, however the ball was running slightly towards the goal line and Arsenal player would of had to turn to score/ Had he given the penalty, the keeper had to be sent off. That decision could of gone either way. The Newcastle goal just scored, no doubt was a fair goal.

The basque Pulis will be going into full on mental

had a feeling it wouldn't be our day, whenever we've been going for the title and the rare occasion Liverpool or City drop points before we play, we end up dropping points as well, not to mention Howe always seems to out coach Arteta.

Woltemade seems to argue a lot with officials, needs to reign it in a bit.

Noel Gordon rolling around there

Shakenzie die hande

Gordon falling into the same trap as Bale thinking that a hair band makes him look like Beckham and Grealish. Gordon going to have to rely solely on his bank balance to net him f@nny.

I just posted that Woltemade looks like a 70's German p00rn star and the comment didn't post, they've filtered out the word p**n ffs

Gabriel did poke him in the face, but he needs to get on with the game,

net him f@nny, never heard that expression before

Looks like Gabriel spat on his back

sanchez played ball last week and was sent off.

Gordon likes f@nny?

should read no penalty

ARTETA HASNT GOT IT,   HAPPY TO AVOID DEFEAT AND LOSES THE GAMES,    HIS TEAMS DONT SCORE IN THE BIGGER MATCHES

Must say, I hate players who commit sneaky fouls or unsportsmanlike behaviour then conspicuously demand a handshake in front of the ref, making out they're innocent.

#justiceforGykores

Gyökeres looks like a lost boy out there. The new "fox in the box" Francis Jeffers.

Is it more Arsenal aren't yet used to playing with a centre forward?

I think some of the Arsenal midfielders don't rate him so he looks isolated at times.

Gerrimoff, need an Assnil goal

maybe arteta needs some more coaches on the staff to tell him what to do.

1-1

Good

1-1

VAR

Deffo pen

Maybe not

1-2

1-2

Pope definitely not infallible.

1-2 FT. Decent game some bets won.

Newcastle absolutely ballsed that Up big time.
Lucky, lucky Arsenal.

The cheating var official’s couldn’t stop Arsenal from winning today

GTFI

We were the better team in terms of possession, shots on goal, shots on target, 200+ more passes, goal expectancy (0.5 v 2.01) and big chances created.

Nothing lucky about it, though not many teams will get anything there.

Kind Regards.

Sep 28, 2025 -- 6:35PM, mesmerised wrote:

GTFI We were the better team in terms of possession, shots on goal, shots on target, 200+ more passes, goal expectancy (0.5 v 2.01) and big chances created.Nothing lucky about it, though not many teams will get anything there.Kind Regards.

Newcastle have already lost three home games and it's only September.

Who needs Eddie Nketuah?

I have always said Merino is a natural centre forward

Pretty one dimensional at times from Arsenal

Lord Mikel of Arteta and his subs won the match, got a goal and an assist

inevitable that. Extremely poor 2nd half. No effort to push out and get the ball up the pitch. Parked the bus and got what was deserved.

Woltemade looks good but ffs he looks boloxed after a single half ffs

One thing that stands out to me is how little Newcastle switch flanks further up the pitch. There was a point today where Livramento was screaming for ball to be switched. He was in acres of space and Joelinton just played it down the flank and lost the ball.

Gyökeres is poor btw

Good game, busy day for ref and var.

Losing livramento was big loss, arsenal kept going.

Anybody else shouting at Newcastle to mark eze from short corners

Ffs

The overturned pen,

Not sure of the rules,but
He was fouled first,then keeper touched the ball 2nd after the arsenal player touched the ball first.

I thought the opposing player had to touch the ball first,

Otherwise you can foul someone,run after the ball then touch it.

Even after keeper touched it,the attacker could still continue to get the ball and score,but was prevented from doing so.

Var is to stop clear and obvious errors,

Like with pixel off sides,and micro touches,these aren’t clear and obvious mistakes,they are insignificant touches.

Surely it has to be relevant touches,altering the direction of the ball,not finger nail glances resulting in penalties,if the direction of the ball isn’t altered ,then the infringement is irrelevant.

The 2nd hand ball pen.

Not given because it grazed his shin,so can’t be handball as it came off his body first.

So ,any defender on goal line ,dive at shot with both hands near head,try and get your head on it a bit,then catch the ball.

Or if the shot is eak,just flick it up off foot or knee,then catch the ball and throw it back to your keeper..

They’ve literally got so obsessed with accurate micro detail,to the enth degree,that they’ve missed the bigger picture.

It’s become a competition in finding any excuse to over turn a decision.

They should scrap var and just get the ref to watch 1 replay from 1 angle,to check he’s not completely got it wrong,same for offsides,if he looks on or off by the naked eye from 1 replay,then that’s the decision.

Has anyone tried to write a handball flow chart?

Nah,

Does anybody know the law and more importantly how to apply it.

Commentators like Hansen back in the day….. there was contact … then idiot fans apeing that comment as justification. There is a lack of intelligence in football

Everton 1-0 West Ham

1-1

West Ham realized Everton are not very good

Two dreadful sides

Have West Ham really sacked David Moyes to use Graham Potter as a stop gap to get in the Portuguese Moyes instead ?

shame the Hammers hierarchy didn't wait until after tonight to sack Potter !

Nuno certainly had them more organised compared to their previous games this season.

They are not dreadful WD and neither are the toffees. But they are symptomatic of the averageness that purveys the Premier League, which is hyped up to the eyeballs but in reality is not great in depth.
How many goals are due to really poor defending ?

Everton have the nucleus of a decent side but desperately lack a striker who can put the ball in the net, trouble is there are not many of those around.

What ever happened to the likes of Sheringham, Fowler, Andy Cole, Les Ferdinand, Yorke, Wright, Shearer, Owen, Le Tissier, Cantona, Collymore etc, best forwards of the 90's in the Prem

Today, apart from Haaland, Gyökeres and Isak, there's no other current Premier League striker anywhere near the level of those above,  Watkins? Pedro? Tesco Sekso? Beto? Larsson? Wood? Welbeck? Muniz? Mateta? Fulkrug? Richarlison? Evanilson? Waltermitty? Calvert-Lewin? Isidor? Thiago? Foster?


Standard has dropped massively through the floor. Notice how many top quality English strikers there was, the talent pool can't just have disappeared, they're now just overlooked for local scouting and development in favour for cheap overseas garbage.

Kind Regards

Problem is we started punishing foul play, so strikers flourished
and attacking play.

Now we allow defenders to foul all the time with little sanction, and
you can punch somebody in the face and if they don't fall
down it's just play on. An elbow to stomach is a yellow card,
whilst a feigned head butt still brings a red.

Bowen is as good as Dwight yorke

Salah is a decent striker,

But world football in general lacks decent strikers

Dixie

I picked up the game a few minutes before West Ham scored. I could not believe how poorly Everton defended. They seemed wide open and like cart horses. Some of the close control was appalling. That is just my view on what I saw. I would be inclined to bet against both sides when the opportunity arose..

Bit simplistic basing your judgement of EFC on 30 minutes of football WD and ignoring all the good signs in the previous four and a half games . Some of the attacking link play between Jack, Ndiaye and KDH has been a joy to watch. A lack of close control is fairly endemic throughout the EPL, it's not just confined to the two teams last night. Considering the billiard tables that they play on these days, the lack of skill generally on show is depressing.

Grealish looks to still have a case of manchestercityitis, sh1t scared to have a shot.

Compared to sixty years ago strikers are cosseted and mollycoddled enormously.
No tackling from behind by clog-shod defenders with a licence to slice forwards calf’s to shreds.
Read up on Hughie Gallagher.
Even thirty years later the Ron Harris’s were allowed to scythe the George Bests of our world with impunity.
Forwards have never had such freedom and security.

Forwards had their era, Messi, Ronaldo et Al.

Now it's a cloggers delight, taken out at source
... Play on

I agree about Jack G  Captain and have just said such on the calling Everton thread.  But his stats on setting others up for goal attempts is i believe the best in the EPL.

And of course grealish tops the most fouled category in epl.