Football Documentary Tonight, bbc 2 9pm. ... When will they learn.?

Is Frankie on it too

How much did Frankie make at weekend

90 min sob story not a single mention of
the £ they hoped to have made from their investment
the tax they had hoped to avoid which HMRC has now deemed EVASION
if its to good to be true ,etc
and if brian deane sold his house to invest £ in a get rich quick scheme,he desereves to be parted from his hard earned,
the greedy and the  needy are ripe for picking by these sharks,
dozey auld robbie fowler did ok with better advice

most footballers have agents.

Agents need to be licenced.

Make Agents take out insurance to cover financial shenanigans.

they seemed more interested in burying howard wilkinson than the 2 spivs they say defrauded them

won't be long until players are moaning about NFT/crypto/Chinese tower block scams and demanding their money back.

was all abit confused but they seemed to say, they made their money from the MOVIE tax free scheme but lost it on bad property deals/over inflated prices/excessive charges by the spivs, but the cinema tax loophole was closed down when 100,s of so called film companies wernt producing any films, not sure if footballers were then backdated taxed on certain so called  cinema firms been declared unlawful,which they were invested in

They should give Danny Murphy some money, just enough so we never have to listen to his voice again.

from the Telegraph article it sounds like Deane is not the full shilling: “People talk about the fact that fraud is a victimless crime,” Deane says.

all badly clipped together but DEANE seemed to say he was adivised/did sell his house to invest the proceeds in high risk get rich scheme, players talk,there must have been lots of players/staff at these clubs warning them against these scheme ,to good to be true etc etc, was about 20 millions worth of housing on view  but nhow much they owned of it who no,s

On Murphy mentioning his substance abuse, that might explain the times I've seen him on MOTD in the past and often thought that his eyes had looked like he might have been on something, thought that a few times.

murphy wont have been top 5/6 of pools starting 11 in squad of 25, or in a squad of 40 for england, we hear tales of fowler,maca etc doing well with investments,is murphy saying their were lots of other l,pool/ENG players in same boats as him,or did they invest better,do more dilligence etc,if murphy is the front for 100,s of others safe to assume he,s one of most high profile, are these the same group of  players who were signed up by that journeymen brum player for dubia property investment who had to flee to america ?

it would be good if some players actually came out and say they did great out of it .

The biggest shock i thought was how a relatively low key player like Murphy had £5m to squander on these "investments". Just shows how much cash has been swilling around the game since the inception of the EPL. And yet they all seem to want more.

Would have liked to have heard a proper interview with the Kingsbridge guys rather than prepared statements throughout the programme.

Difficult to sympathise too much with the players apart from when it was shown that apparently some of their signatures had been forged on certain documents.
If that was true then surely a fraud charge could have been levied ?

would be fraud but it was only timing as murphy had already admitted he just signed everything without reading or questioning anything

Think Murphy is being disingenuous. Didn't watch the doc, but have read about the scheme. He borrowed £1M for the rebate scheme on top of his own £4M. Did he admit that the investment was too good to be true/he was greedy/he was happy to take big returns for (at the time) no risk? Not buying the Mr Innocent act. It was easy money...until it wasn't.

remember rio been in to the movie tax scheme ,but hhose movies were actualy made ,so much that he actualy took an interest in the filming /production of them B list gangsta movies,he also did the dubia property investment schemes, seems to have done ok,now moving out there to live fulltime
you can tell its a substanial amount as i no personaly lots of lads got caught using umberella,cis,ir 57 etc which were deemed to be ilegaly and they came for them 4,5 yrs later ,for between 15 and 40 grand and it was pretty brutal,they took it out of their wages at source just left them with basic expenses to live on till it was paid off

“the needy and the greedy are ripe for the picking by these sharks”.

You are almost suggesting that what these players have suffered at the hands of these two khounts is somehow acceptable.
Are you?
Would you say that convincing needy o.a.p.’s, to go to their banks and transfer monies to scammers, who have convinced them of their need to do so is acceptable too.
Indeed would you differentiate between the two means of parting people from their wealth?
I don’t.
Give each and every one of you the chance to avoid paying these hmrc hyenas and each and every one of you would do it.

How many of you have told hmrc that your wife carried out admin. on your behalf, as an employee, in order to achieve a tax concession?
All of you, if you are self-employed.  Did you therefore cheat the taxman?

Spot on Loyal

My Mate Drives a Black Cab Tell you What he has some Rules 4s and that's is Accounting Telling him what to claim for makes a good Living from the Game after all the Rules 4s are Deducted Pays a Bag of Buns in TAX Good Write up Loyal on the Self Employed

Accountant

These players saved fortunes in tax for years. What happened to it? How much did Murphy's wife take in the divorce?

as described on the docu which was as stated a mish mash, this wasnt like jimmy carr/barlow been found that their aggresive 3% tax avoidance schemes were made illegal, they legit made their money from the FILM INDUSTRY TAX BREAK, at the time but invested it in over inflated overseas property which went belly up,which they now say they could stomach that but are getting hit with tax liabilities now for investing  in movie production companies that HMRC say didnt exist, no films were produced, their basically conflating 3 different scenario,s/phases or at least thats what the docu portrayed, it even said some of them lost next to nothing and only using their name to try and help those who lost alot,and as i said above seemed more upset with howard wilkinson than the 2 people who supposedly  defrauded them

at its basic level they thought they were SAVING £, they wernt they were INVESTING and their £ was at risk, most people see their house as an investment, not sell a house like brian deane to use the £ to invest elsewhere and the 2 fellas said/hinted  in one of their replies that DEANE was the most dilligent in doing some homework,visiting the properties etc ,before agreeing