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The Dragon
07 Jul 25 19:42
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Ive gone :

Liverpool 2/1

Birmingham 9/1

Stockport 12/1 and

Chesterfielsd 15/2

multiple bets ew and win..

what are your fancies.

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By:
The Dragon
When: 07 Jul 25 19:43
i have also layed arsenal and luton
By:
stocks
When: 07 Jul 25 20:29
Liverpool Brum Plymouth Salford
By:
Aspro
When: 08 Jul 25 10:08
City; Southampton; Plymouth; MK Dons (ew)
By:
chewy11
When: 08 Jul 25 13:18
Newcastle 22
Plymouth 8
MK Dons 7/2
Southend 12

1pt ew Yankee returns £34.5K
By:
The Dragon
When: 08 Jul 25 19:21
yes nice returns if you can land them
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Jul 25 18:01
brum 0nly 9,s to finish above 3 relegated EPL clubs, shocking odds IMO,without even  taking in to accout the experienced championship club, would make one of relegated championship clubs certainties to win div one
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 09 Jul 25 18:14
There's more or less Sheff u and
3 rellies to beat, I don't fancy Leicester...
By:
stocks
When: 09 Jul 25 18:54
Ist time poster I disagree same as last year people saying Brum wrong price please advise
what price you consider fair Saints in mess Leicester not even got manager owners going  broke Ipswich very valid contenders along with Coventry only dangers Imo
By:
Stringvest
When: 10 Jul 25 20:21
Liverpool 
Sheff Utd
Huddersfield
Chesterfield

Win  Yankee
E/W  Acca
By:
DixieDean60
When: 10 Jul 25 20:51
I can see why Birmingham are amongst the favourites in the Championship, the feel good factor is back and they have made some decent signings in the close season including Demarai Gray who on his day is a cut above this level.


Luton are justifiable favourites for League One, i cannot see them failing to go back up. Might back them on the handicap.

In Division Two, MK Dons are a very short price when one considers how bad they were last year. I will swerve them and have an interest in my local team Gillingham, who looked very solid after Gareth Ainsworth took over for the last couple of months last season, they have added Sam Vokes upfront whose experience could be invaluable. 12/1 is available which looks fair value.
By:
TheGoddess
When: 10 Jul 25 22:57
PREMIER LEAGUE HANDICAPS (ALREADY ExcitedSurprisedShockedSurprisedExcited)

Newcastle (+15)
Man United (+21)
Man City (+3)
Liverpool (scr)
Nottingham Forest (+32)
Sunderland (+52)
Aston Villa (+22)
West Ham (+35)
Tottenham (+22)
Leeds (+43)
Fulham (+33)
Brentford (+38)
Bournemouth (+32)
Wolves (+39)
Brighton (+27)
Burnley (+51)
Everton (+33)
Crystal Palace (+33)
Chelsea (+12)
Arsenal (+3)

Would definitely not play: Sunderland, Burnley, Leeds, Everton, Fulham, Brighton, Wolves, Brentford, C Palace and Bournemouth - all need much greater starts!

Would seriously consider being against: Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham, Aston Villa and Notts Forest - all need a few extra points start!

Leaves me with:
1 Newcastle +15
2 Man Utd +21
3 Man City +3
4 Arsenal +3
5 Liverpool SCR

Any Views?
By:
Lifter
When: 11 Jul 25 12:05
Woooo it's like my birthday Laugh

Although, on first glance, I don't like anything there. Can Liverpool get 100 points, Arsenal 97? UTD 79? Hmmmm, I can't see it. Newcastle and Chelsea could be plays, but then i think you're asking them to challenge for the title
By:
Lifter
When: 11 Jul 25 12:08
I think there's a world where Spurs get around 75 points, so wouldn't be too against spurs with +22
By:
The Dragon
When: 11 Jul 25 12:09
forest look interesting at plus 32 but can they repeat last years form

fulham plus 33?
By:
Lifter
When: 11 Jul 25 12:16
fulham could have potential. 63-65 points and they're in the race. Would need to pick up 10 points from last season.
By:
Lifter
When: 11 Jul 25 12:21
Could we see another lowly ranked team "do a Forest"? By the way, Elanga & Gibbs-White are leaving Forest, so I'm not confident in them. Leeds with 53-55 points would go close, but that seems a big ask for a newly promoted team. Will keep an eye on them in the transfer window, as they could spend fairly big
By:
Lifter
When: 11 Jul 25 12:23
I like palace at +33 as they're moving in the right direction -- Cup win gives them confidence, great team, great manager, etc. But looks like they will lose Eze hmmm
By:
loui
When: 12 Jul 25 10:06
Has anyone got any good info for Scottish leagues outside the prem
By:
feed the goat......
When: 12 Jul 25 11:21
Yep it's sh1t
By:
TheGoddess
When: 12 Jul 25 13:10

Jul 12, 2025 -- 11:21AM, feed the goat...... wrote:


Yep it's sh1t


100%

By:
The Dragon
When: 13 Jul 25 13:04
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
sevey
When: 13 Jul 25 16:41
Loui Give you a Team to bet 1st Game of the Season Hibernian away to Dundee on at 13\8 bet Them a month ago with the Stoke Firm 6/5 now Garrentee will be on Odds on Day of the Game
By:
loui
When: 13 Jul 25 20:12
Thanks sevey will have a look at that one
By:
Regbutler
When: 13 Jul 25 21:29
Meant to do this a couple of weeks ago, price shortened now...

Chelsea 11/10 top 4 with Gillingham 5/4 top 7 for a decent season long bet

Also done both teams to win respective divisions at 9s and 12s for smaller

With bet356

Will post another couple of season bets before the start

Gl all
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 13 Jul 25 21:42
guys where can I find this handicap betting? thanks
By:
Regbutler
When: 13 Jul 25 21:47
Evening foyles
Bet356 have Chelsea plus 12...all teams are 15/1
Under Premier league outrights, handicap
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 13 Jul 25 21:50
yeah just found it reg thanks .......be a b,stard to work out the points each week I'd imagine reg .
By:
Regbutler
When: 13 Jul 25 21:57
I write down all the handicap starts for each team as I place the bet
Then, by about Xmas you can narrow it down to about 4 teams usually...perhaps a couple with shorter starts, 1 with a medium start, and 1 with a big start
If you're still in by then, just need to concentrate on those teams each week
By:
Stringvest
When: 13 Jul 25 22:11
They do one on the Exchange , but its not usually put up till a week or two before the season starts.
By:
Regbutler
When: 13 Jul 25 22:14
Cheers stringy, thought there usually was one
By:
Flemenstar
When: 14 Jul 25 01:18
Man City +3 looks OK to me just at a glance and comparing to the points totals that the spread firms have each team in for antepost

As for outright league winners,

did fancy Birmingham to continue their momentum and they've signed well IMO but I was kind of hoping the double figures would last. Market isn't rating them far off Ipswich when you look at how the match odds priced up for Gameweek 1

think MK Dons should win L2 quite comfortably given level of investment over the summer and experienced coach, there's no real depth to the league can put a **** paper between many of the clubs

League 1 quite hard to call but I think Luton will likely be up there, however I don't think Cardiff and Plymouth will.

Must be some value in the Conference as well, don't really fancy Carlisle at 5/2
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 14 Jul 25 08:17
who won  on the handicap this season ?forgive my ignorance mainly play the horses !
By:
brians
When: 14 Jul 25 08:30
Not sure Foyles but I reckon Forest were the biggest surprise over the season.
By:
TheGoddess
When: 14 Jul 25 08:45
"Would seriously consider being against: Chelsea, Tottenham, West Ham, Aston Villa and Notts Forest - all need a few extra points start!"

May need to change my view on Chelsea +12 now with an extra £85m to spend.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 14 Jul 25 09:14
yeah that's what I thought Brian's  forest musta gone very close would imagine they would have been + 25- 30 ish
By:
Lifter
When: 14 Jul 25 09:19
Forest were +47 and won easily
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 14 Jul 25 10:35

Jul 13, 2025 -- 4:41PM, sevey wrote:


Loui Give you a Team to bet 1st Game of the Season Hibernian away to Dundee on at 13\8 bet Them a month ago with the Stoke Firm 6/5 now Garrentee will be on Odds on Day of the Game


Dundee getting beaten by Airdrie caught my eye on Saturday. Are they a mess this season?

By:
bettinghelp
When: 14 Jul 25 10:48
Dundee have lost their best players and have a new manager nobody seems to want. They could go down.
By:
TheGoddess
When: 15 Jul 25 12:36
2 price changes on handicap:

12/1 Chelsea +12

18/1 Man Utd +21

Rest still 15/1
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