5 champions league places next season...?

Seem to remember England had a 98% chance of the 5th place at one point last season!

Then lost every knockout tie from then on

I guess it is gonna help that all Spanish, all German ties, are occurring in earlier rounds than all English ones.

Isn't 5 gonna be the maximum though? When it was maximum 4 the 4th place (Tottenham) missed out when 6th place (Chelsea) won the CL . Or have they change this

top 10 as of March 6.

1. England, 22.178 - (6/7)
2. Spain, 19.892 - (6/7)
3. Italy, 18.937 - (4/8)
4. Germany, 16.671 - (4/8)
5. Portugal, 16.250 - (2/5)
6. France, 15.285 - (3/7)
7. Belgium, 15.250 - (3/5)
8. Netherlands, 15.083 - (4/6)
9. Greece, 12.187 - (2/4)
10. Norway, 10.812 - (2/4)

Figures in brackets show number of teams remaining in comps
and number that started out.

The Coefficient is calculated by points won divided by teams
starting out. 2 for win, 1 for draw, with pelanty shootouts ignored.


Plus bonus points...


European competition bonus points
PositionUCL    UEL    UCoL
1    12.000    6.000    4.000
2    11.750    5.750    3.750
3    11.500    5.500    3.500
4    11.250    5.250    3.250
5    11.000    5.000    3.000
6    10.750    4.750    2.750
7    10.500    4.500    2.500
8    10.250    4.250    2.250
9    10.000    4.000    2.000
10    9.750    3.750    1.875
11    9.500    3.500    1.750
12    9.250    3.250    1.625
13    9.000    3.000    1.500
14    8.750    2.750    1.375
15    8.500    2.500    1.250
16    8.250    2.250    1.125
17    8.000    2.000    1.000
18    7.750    1.750    0.875
19    7.500    1.500    0.750
20    7.250    1.250    0.625
21    7.000    1.000    0.500
22    6.750    0.750    0.375
23    6.500    0.500    0.250
24    6.250    0.250    0.125
25    6.000    0.00    0.00
26    6.000    0.00    0.00
27    6.000    0.00    0.00
28    6.000    0.00    0.00
29    6.000    0.00    0.00
30    6.000    0.00    0.00
31    6.000    0.00    0.00
32    6.000    0.00    0.00
33    6.000    0.00    0.00
34    6.000    0.00    0.00
35    6.000    0.00    0.00
36    6.000    0.00    0.00

There are then bonus points for reaching each of the knockout rounds, again weighted by competition.
European bonus points - knockouts
Position    Per round    Maximum
UCL    1.500    6.000
UEL    1.000    4.000
UCoL    0.500    2.000


From espn

I reckon it's probably mathematically impossible now for Italy overtake England

The Premier League will have five teams in the Champions League next season after it secured one of the extra places for performance by clubs across the three European competitions.

Two leagues will be rewarded with a European Performance Spot (EPS), which was introduced in last season as part of a revamp to expand the Champions League to a 36-team competition.

England has been well out in front at the top of the table for most of the season, and the extra place was all but confirmed by a catalogue of poor results for Italian clubs in the knockout playoff round and the round of 16.

That left the Premier League needing only one win, or two draws, from the remaining fixtures and that was sealed on Tuesday when Arsenal won 3-0 at home to Real Madrid.

Yeah, and if villa win and don't finnish top 5 could be 7

just shows how strong the EPL is despite some chatter that it isnt as strong as years gone by

Chelsea will take the most money from the ECL pot, could also secure CL from top 5 and then head off to the CWC where they'll make $50m minimum.

If you've played CL or CWC within the last 5 years you shouldn't be eligible for ECL.

Great news for Bilbao

Newcastle have to go to arsenal too.

If Arsenal are in the final by then, then you can be sure it's a 3 point banker for Newcastle as we wouldn't play any first team players, assuming CL football next season is assured which in theory it should be. Kind Regards.

Maybe soton but that's a week before the final still. A result v newc and that might be it. Lose to them they might need to make sure v soton.

Currently you'd rest v Ipsw, Palace, Pool and Bmouth as they are all next game before/after CL ties. 5th is the same as 2nd if you are going for CL. PL only becomes relevant if you are in danger of finishing 6th.

Happens plenty enough if there is a week between games, that players are rested on the penultimate fixture, rather than the match the week before.  Reason being fitness and match sharpness.

If Arsenal are assured of top 5 and are in the final, then they will be resting their players against Newcastle, I'm sure the fans going to the last home game of the season, would understand, Kind Regards.

So many chickens being counted at this time of the season.

People have been churning this 'Champions' title line for years, it's just a branding thing ffs, wasn't it also the case even back in the European Cup days that CL holders got in even if that hadn't won their domestic league that season, not a new thing. Kind Regards.

Nah,

It’s pathetic. Sure Champions could defend their title. The “ Champions “ League only gets exciting in the knockout phase or last game of the group phase. It is bloated and needs culling. It is boring during the group stages. This week got the blood flowing again.

Fair point TTT, but in its defence, teams change over the summer so the teams that win their respective leagues are not the same teams that compete.

Just saying

Shamrock Rovers got out of the group stage in the ECL. They made over €5m for that. Plus a tiny bit more in extra gate receipts, sponsorship from the extra games. You get €200k prize money for winning the Irish league.

I'd say the ECL winner gets less than €15m. But you get into the EL group stage the following year, which is prob worth as much financially. If you qualify for the CWC or have qualified for the CL in the last 5 years you should be excluded from the ECL imo. It's a lifeline for a lot of clubs from small countries.