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Has FA Cup become a farce?
Has FA Cup become a farce?
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Man Utd?
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Yep 2 nil down 3 2 up now we’re gunna win the cup
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yep.... I was there.. it broke my heart
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I've yet to look but if you offered me a million quid I couldn't tell you a 5th Rd tie yet tro look, my worst f a cup tie was losing to wolves in quarter finaql,the break up of one ofr bhoro,sw best sides began on the way home home,long trek home that night,think we were fav to win both games,big fav,s for the home game
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John Richard’s scored that night Mecca brilliant atmosphere at the old molineaux
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Most of these games were covered by TV, and stick in memory
as there was so little football on tv. Sportsnight with Coleman...motd, and odd extra highlite show or even 2 minutes tagged on the news. Otherwise it was snooker, darts, show jumping and World Cup, Olympics, commonwealth games. Commonwealth games gone down the fa cup route as not quite so relevant to sports broadcasters. Bbc and itv got fa cup back so it's bouncing back Good for them. |
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I know it’s a cliche you have to laugh but for many the fa cup is still the best club tournament in the world and I support a club who has had lots of success at a supposedly bigger level.
I remember David Coleman asking parents to let there young lads stay up a little longer to watch George best score a very special goal. It was the one against Chelsea when Harris tried to take him out. |
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The prize money in the FA Cup is small. Managers , especially ones that have come from abroad, put it lower down on their priorities. Just saw the prize money for each phase of the rounds and it will be a bounty for a lower tier side. Players don't want to risk injury to their stars and Id say the Carabao Cup has even less allure. Still, if you happen to be in the last 4 of either comp, you play your best team to win it. If your a team competing in Europe and the Premier League, Id say the FA Cup has 3rd priority and the Carabao Cup has 4th priority.
THE EMIRATES FA CUP SEASON 2024-25 PRIZE FUND PAYMENTS Extra Preliminary Round winners (221) £1,125 Extra Preliminary Round losers (221) £375 Preliminary Round winners (136) £1,444 Preliminary Round losers (136) £481 First Round Qualifying winners (112) £2,250 First Round Qualifying losers (112) £750 Second Round Qualifying winners (80) £3,375 Second Round Qualifying losers (80) £1,125 Third Round Qualifying winners (40) £5,625 Third Round Qualifying losers (40) £1,875 Fourth Round Qualifying winners (32) £9,375 Fourth Round Qualifying losers (32) £3,125 First Round Proper winners (40) £45,000 First Round Proper losers (40) £15,000 Second Round Proper winners (20) £75,000 Second Round Proper losers (20) £20,000 Third Round Proper winners (32) £115,000 Third Round Proper losers (32) £25,000 Fourth Round Proper winners (16) £120,000 Fifth Round Proper winners (8) £225,000 Quarter Final winners (4) £450,000 Semi Final winners (2) £1,000,000 Semi Final losers (2) £500,000 Final winners (1) £2,000,000 Final runners-up (1) £1,000,000 |
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The money kind of dictates the priority for alot of the overseas managers and players. But I can imagine for the domestic players that grew up in England or the UK- it would have allure.
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Jim
I have no problem with that. It was a huge part of my life, and I remember being distraught when I missed Spurs v Coventry due to golfing engagement I couldn't get out of. First final I missed since 1966. |
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most of it back behind a paywall next year which feels a bit short sighted by the FA..
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yeh I was working with an old lag wolves fan in BORO about 6 months ago, we were both at that game and he remembered Richards scoring, the Saturday game at BORO was the only time I remember opposing fans taking over THE TROOPER PUB just off linthorpe Rd near the ground,I was in there about 12, 30 when they all came storming in,became a bit of legendary amongst boro fans who are 60 + today. I think TERRY COCHRANE scored our equaliser on THE SATURDAY
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You have to laugh
Was that the spurs Coventry cup final ? |
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the auld wolves lag was a big Steve bull fan, I was at Hampden when bull scored for England
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Yeah, arranged a golf match, and we couldn't rearrange it, so I
missed the final. Honestly gutted. |
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What was the golf match the us masters ?
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No, it was an interclub match, that my partner arranged,
he wanted to watch game too, but hadn't realised. We went back to them but they wouldn't budge... Rugby lads... |
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Are you a spurs or Coventry fan ?
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Newcastle fan Jim.
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Well that makes the golf decision moor understandable,fancy two trips to Wembley this season for your team.
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can roll my BORO,s 60yrs F A CUP history off top of my head as though it were yesterday.
1st memory queuing 14 hrs in snow for MAN U tkts at home in 70,s beat west ham Derek downing diving header same yr I think drew at man city LG 1 in snow we were LG 2, joined queue at 8 when we got back to ayersome park for replay tkts on the sat night jack charltons team lost 1 nil away to brum in quarter final after beating them twice 3 nil in LG,44,000 there went to Swansea and beat them 5 nil away one yr Terry Cochrane overhead kick,think that was the yr we went and lost quarter final replay against wolves juniho scoring in quarter final at city chesterfield comeback /non goal semi and de Matteo scoring after 50 secs in final |
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I've never been to Wembley for an fa cup final.
I've never seen us win at Wembley. 2 trips in a season would be a first too We can but dream. |
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My first and still my favourite was when getting beat by Southampton in 76 as it was my first ,the following year beat our biggest rivals and stopped them winning the treble but still 76 is my favourite.
I haven’t been to the new Wembley and doubt I ever will perhaps if the champions league cup final was held there and united were in it,that said a trip the the championship play offs is more likely than that. |
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Other than forest away in the quarter final I don’t see any danger to Newcastle getting to the cup final.
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apology to RONNIE RAILS,drawing at home to DARLO in the snow and losing replay at feethams in snow,the night all hell broke lose pre game,when they were either 4th division or maybe even non LG
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That reminds anyone know the answer to my question at 1007 regarding who knocked Darlington out of the 2000 fa cup ?
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Players are getting tired Jim, anything can happen in cup ties
Premier league is a proper slog. Teams that have saved themselves can up it in cup and gain reward. Carabao cup adds to strain on players and it's also distraction to fans, (a good one) but adds to mental pressure on players. Brighton are nobody's push overs. |
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No Europe or serious chance of winning premier league I just think them and forest will be more up for it and are both very hungry.
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Your boys are still in there swinging Jim and proven winners of big games
and some might argue they are well rested having not really competed in league. With Liverpool gone, everybody will hope for lady luck, and a kind draw. The magic of the cup! |
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Not saying teams are trying to lose but have seen a few acting like over-matched boxers telegraphing a punch to invite the knockout blow that puts them out of their misery.
When Maguire scored late on Friday, I was only watching on tv, but didn't see any Leicester players claim four of Utd were offside. Everyone appeared happy. |
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Not sure about swinging you only have to laugh but to be fair they got results against city Liverpool and arsenal.
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I forgot all about United abandoning the FA Cup in the year 2000 to go and play in some trumped up tournament in Brazil, at the time it was said and thereafter, that that was actually the death knell, it definitely lost something after that, I don't believe for a second a club like United or moreover, someone like Ferguson, a Scotsman, would ever feel pressured or even care to help support England's bid for the world cup, which is just a nonsense line they took to justify not defending their title and to help stave off the criticism that they took. When a club doesn't care about it, you can't expect the fans to care. Kind Regards.
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mesmerised Joined: 10 Nov 10
Replies: 3572211 Feb 25 16:21 When a club doesn't care about it, you can't expect the fans to care. Can't you? |
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could so easily have been avoided by giving chy LG spot to F A cup winners but NO,and now we have 5th place in EPL getting a ch LG spot this yr
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All it would have taken was for the FA to accommodate them and allow them to rearrange FA cup games. That's what United wanted but the FA refused.
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when forest cant beat exeter and liverpool cant beat plymouth says it all really
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bbc and itv are trying to milk it
failed effort |
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Sparrow's old enough to remember when Blackburn won about 5 FA Cups in the 1880's, FA Cup history, tradition and nostalgia is woven into the very fibre of his being, he has yet to reach the acceptance stage that the Cup final it no longer is a prominent landmark moment in the calendar of English sport. It's a bit like when people start to go bald, they start wearing hats, eventually they have enough and just look themselves in the mirror and say, I am a bald man, it's a liberating experience for them, and then they move on with life, the FA Cup first showed signs of Alopecia over 20 years ago Sparrow, and it aint growing back. Kind Regards.
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