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Can't help noticing for most teams avoiding extra time seems more important than winning ..

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By:
Winja
When: 09 Feb 25 20:38
premiership sides away to EFL opposition keep sending B teams.....making the matches far more even than they appear on paper although the betting seems to be set as if it was a full strength squad.....so for that fact alone i would agree....its a competition that has lost its appeal...
By:
tobermory
When: 09 Feb 25 20:42
premiership sides away to EFL opposition keep sending B teams

The EFL teams are often playing their reserves too.
By:
Winja
When: 09 Feb 25 20:44
Leeds did but they are a premiership team in the making.....most others need the cash cow it brings if they can get a televised game......not an expert on every EFL team but i would be very surprised if that was the case.....
By:
lurka
When: 09 Feb 25 23:29
It's less of a farce for most PL sides since they introduced the EL place for winning it. But no CL club or club with its eyes on top 5 should be prioritising it and they generally play second string until the SF. If they took 30m from the PL pool and gave it as a prize it would be different. A drop in the ocean.
By:
G Hall
When: 10 Feb 25 00:13
Since 1996 only 3 teams have won the FA Cup, who were not one of the following

Liverpool
Manchester United
Manchester City
Chelsea
Arsenal
By:
mesmerised
When: 10 Feb 25 01:43
The reality is for the top clubs and fans of the top clubs, is that the growth of the Champions League, i.e, more teams being allowed in, has simply diluted the mystique and magic of the cup, that along with the saturation of football coverage and content in general available on a multitude of differing platforms thanks to the exponential technological advancements over the years in regards to the internet, streaming and on demand services, people can now watch what they want, when they want, how they want, years ago the FA Cup final could be the only live football match most people would see on terrestrial tv in a whole season so it stands to reason that by nature and over time, it will have lost a lost of it's appeal, grandeur and prestige in the hearts and minds of the average supporter of a super club, especially the younger generation who are no longer even old enough to remember CD's and DVD's.

It's also no where near important or relevant to the owners because of money, even since Sky came on the scene 30 odds years ago drowning the league in cash with their huge broadcasting deals and the league being sold around the world, millionaire owners became billionaire owners, billionaire owned sides morphed into state run clubs and with it they  all have bare minimal interest in a little cup that gives them very little monetary rewards let alone credibility amongst their wealthy playmates, and no manager is judged by it in turn. Brentford being the Premier League pauper as the only club not owned by someone worth at least 10 figures but it's only a matter of time before that changes being a London club.

Fans of clubs not traditionally in Europe or in the lowers leagues will still love a cup run, but the days of it being the pinnacle of English football for all fans alike have long since gone and wont be coming back, 17th in the league is worth more than an FA Cup economically and for attracting players thanks to the wages a Premier League side could offer them. Wenger was right when he said top 4 was a trophy, because being in the Champions League means more to modern day fans, modern day players and modern day owners than the a domestic cup competition does. The dwindling interest is reflected by the TV coverage, no longer has it's own day, no longer has several hours worth of build up and in some years has even been sandwiched in between Premier League matches which tells you where television's priorities lie. It was great whilst it lasted but we've outgrown it as a nation, bit like Soap Operas, used to be 20 million watching per episode, an era where Soap stars where Rock stars, now less than 2 million and you wouldn't recognise any of them if they walked past you in the street.

Kind Regards.
By:
grayhawk
When: 10 Feb 25 02:32
It's sad that the youth of today will never begin to realise JUST HOW BIG the FA Cup used to be Sad
By:
MALAY
When: 10 Feb 25 07:45
grayhawk10 Feb 25 02:32Joined: 05 Oct 06 | Topic/replies: 30,172 | Blogger: grayhawk's blog
It's sad that the youth of today will never begin to realise JUST HOW BIG the FA Cup used to be

Top post, and may I add in home internationals possibly ?
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Feb 25 08:35
Last team to win it outside the top tier was West Ham from the Second Division 45 years ago in 1980. So total nonsense being talked here as usual about whether top sides care about winning it.
By:
morpteh mackem
When: 10 Feb 25 09:18
let the  franchises in the prem league go to their European super league and let the normal clubs get on with reclaiming our  great domestic heritage.
By:
howard
When: 10 Feb 25 13:35
the top sides can field a 2nd 11 and usually still win ( not Liverpool yesterday but that's an exception )  Doesn't mean they care like they did years ago.  Of course Man U care because the can't win anything else.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 10 Feb 25 14:58
Great post mes
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 10 Feb 25 15:00
Who remembers the days of 6th round, 4th replay LaughLaugh
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 10 Feb 25 15:06
I've found this weeks FA Cup a nightmare to bet on.
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Feb 25 15:12
SirNorbertClarke Joined: 11 Aug 21
Replies: 1277610 Feb 25 15:00 
Who remembers the days of 6th round, 4th replay


Never mind four replays but remember 1979 Arsenal v Sheffield Wednesday.

Sheffield Wednesday v Arsenal – this Third Round FA Cup clash at a snowy Hillsborough in January 1979 was the first of a series of five games between Division Three side Wednesday and First Division Arsenal. At the time, Cup ties were played to the death, without penalty shoot-outs. It took nine hours of football and four replays, three of them going to extra time, to separate the two teams. The last three fixtures were played at Leicester’s Filbert Street, with all the ties being played within a 16-day period.



The five ties:

1. Sheffield Wednesday – Arsenal; Hillsborough, FA Cup Third Round, Saturday 6 January 1979: 1-1 (Jeff Johnson; Alan Sunderland). Attendance: 33,635

2.  Arsenal – Sheffield Wednesday; Highbury, FA Cup Third Round Replay, Tuesday 9 January 1979: 1-1 a.e.t. (Liam Brady; Rodger Wylde). Attendance: 37,987

3.  Arsenal – Sheffield Wednesday; Filbert Street, FA Cup Third Round Second Replay, Monday 15 January 1979: 2-2 a.e.t. (Liam Brady, Alan Sunderland; Brian Hornsby 2). Attendance: 25,011

4.  Arsenal – Sheffield Wednesday; Filbert Street, FA Cup Third Round Third Replay, Wednesday 17 January 1979: 3-3 a.e.t. (Frank Stapleton 2, Willie Young; David Rushbury, John Lowey, Brian Hornsby). Attendance: 17,008

5.  Arsenal – Sheffield Wednesday; Filbert Street, FA Cup Third Round Fourth Replay, Monday 22 January 1979: 2-0 (Steve Gatting, Frank Stapleton). Attendance: 30,275
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 10 Feb 25 15:22
The Filbert St pitch would have been a cabbage field after 6 hours of football in 7 days Laugh
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 10 Feb 25 22:01
i remember mighty leeds, with bremner, giles, lorimer etc taking 3 attempts to knock out non league wimbledon.
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 10 Feb 25 22:04
and liverpool drawing 2-2 at anfield with doncaster rover, keegan, heighway, hughes et al
By:
sparrow
When: 11 Feb 25 09:10
It's mostly just fans of the so called elitist clubs who deny the overall popularity of fans for the FA Cup .


I Remember the time Man Utd actually refused to enter so as to play in something abroad called The World Club Championship and was severely criticised for it.

https://www.90min.com/posts/remembering-man-utd-s-fa-cup-withdrawal-fifa-club-world-championship-venture
By:
brentford
When: 11 Feb 25 09:27
Utd should have fielded a reserve side in the Cup that year though would probably have been criticised for that as well.

The FA were desperate for Utd to play in the Club World Championship with a view to their World cup bid.

Have to say there were some worrying low attendances in the FA Cup over the weekend so it's not entirely an illusion that the lustre of the comp is fading..(something I certainly take no joy in).
By:
1st time poster
When: 11 Feb 25 09:48
no problem with sides fielding weakened teams,huge problems with comms/pundits taking people for fools saying that l,pool side on Sunday was best in world,always scores blah ,blah
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:07
That was the 2000 fa cup sparrow which leads to the question who knocked Darlington out of that seasons fa cup ?
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:11
Talking about replays the 1970 semi final between Leeds and united took 3 games hillsbourgh,villa park,and finally burnden park ,I think this is where the hatred between the two clubs started.

Incidentally jack taylor referees all 3 games and went on to referee the 1974 World Cup final.
By:
mecca
When: 11 Feb 25 10:21
I remember at school (so it would be mid to late '70s) someone had brought a tranny radio in on the monday, so that we could hear the Cup draw at lunchtime.
A few of us had gathered around the radio to listen... and when Wolves were drawn out first, we all went beserk, cheering and making a racket... problem was, nobody had heard who we had been drawn to play.
We had to wait till the end of the draw and they went through it again to find out who we were gonna play
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:31
Happy days Mecca the Monday dinner time fa cup draw all these years later although at different times I still very much look forward to the draw.
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:33
My team was in 3 semi final draws in the 70s and whilst who we got was important where the game as played was just as important however that wouldn’t be announced until later in the day or even the next day.
By:
brentford
When: 11 Feb 25 10:37
Hillsborough or Villa Park pretty short prices !
By:
mecca
When: 11 Feb 25 10:38
It's a different world today... kids now would have no clue what a transistor radio was
By:
mecca
When: 11 Feb 25 10:43
I went to a Semi final replay once... Wolves v Spurs .. at Arsenals highbury!!

not very midway ... but saying that I have also been to a couple of semi finals at Villa Park which is close to us

(lost them all)
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:45
Yes Brentford it usually was those to although places like main road ,gooderson and even highfield road got games.
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:45
Mecca I still have a small one which I take with me when walking.
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:47
Would that be 81 at Highbury?
By:
brentford
When: 11 Feb 25 10:47
Maine Road was an obvious one I missed out (still gutted couldn't get a ticket for 85 replay) but hadn't realised how many Highbury got.. and Goodison Park and even Stamford Bridge a few having had a quick squint on wiki...
By:
mecca
When: 11 Feb 25 10:49
I'm not sure ... but '81 is about right.

2-2 draw at Hillsborough ... then replay at Arsenal.. Spurs won 3-0 with a wonder goal from Ricky Villa
By:
mecca
When: 11 Feb 25 10:50
Ricky Villa got another wonder goal in the final v Man City
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:52
Yes Brentford Southampton beat palace at Stamford bridge in 76
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 10:54
The spurs wolves game I remember most is the 72 uefa cup final over two legs I was always a fan of John Richard’s so wanted wolves to win
By:
mecca
When: 11 Feb 25 11:07
JR still known as The King around here.... he was actually awarded "The freedom of the city" just a couple of weeks ago
By:
jimnast
When: 11 Feb 25 11:17
That’s nice

Between 3and5 in my favourite games I’ve been to was at wolves the 1976 fa cup quarter final replay a proper fa cup night.
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