Ruben Amorim

any manager who,s game plan,PLAN B if going behind or down to 10 men away from home,involves bringing the OAP,s Eric and Cass on obviously hasn't a clue, and his PLAN B is basicaly if we,re in this situation its game over

did you take an hour off to wash the 72 plate golf?

or are you going to boast about something else?

Something else you got wrong. I have never washed a car or even run one through a car wash.

i didn't get it wrong about you being a plastic fan though, which you've confirmed

Fancy discovering I don't contribute to the Glazer's bank accounts

Well done you!!!!

Here's some more breaking news for you No.2... I don't given a sh!t if the 11 overpaid millionaires wearing the United kit lose on a Saturday!!!

So says most of the forum

Yeah but for saddos like Ragingqueen and elise if United lose they need hospital treatment for their priapism.

They really are that sad.

rattled?  sad little man

LOL!

Dec 27, 2024 -- 1:11AM, brentford wrote:

If you don't give Amad an improved contract with extension soon he'd be very entitled not to bother re-signing at any point..plenty of clubs that would take him on a free and double his wages (28k according to Capology)...he's one of the few that's having a half decent season..so you either pay (within reason) or risk having another 25-30m player to find which history suggests is tough on multiple accounts for Utd..The Rashford deal looks awful in hindsight but don't recall many comments at the time as he signed towards the end of a 30 goal season and would have been potentially leaving on a free with just a season left on his deal and at that time attracting quite a bit of interest.

If Amad is on 28k a week he must be one of the lowest paid players in the league. He'll want to do a lot more than double his wages. Ashley Cole was offered 55k a week in 2005 and considered it an insult.

That's the thing about the Premier League, you can be on relative peanuts and still on £1.5m a year!

It's his first season of playing regularly in the PL ( was a bit part last season and out on loans before that)..so it's a reflection of his status when the contract was originally signed....

sounds as though they've virtually agreed a deal ..would imagine it would be along the lines of Hojlund money who's 'only' on about 85k..

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/manchester-united-fc/cap/_/year/2024


https://www.capology.com/club/manchester-united/salaries/

At his age Amad's main priority should be first team minutes.

The money follows

Alan Pardew just said "didn't they do a Muriel of him?" about Arsenal's set-piece coach. LOL. Reminds me of old Coronation Street.

wrong thread.

Amad was trafficed to Italy at the age of 12 or 13. Tough life.

He's only been in the job a few weeks but the press are asking him if he feels under pressure

If the club had any sense they'd let him rebuild the foundations

for a bloke who,s had 3 fresh air shots, and 2 shinners in a fortnight on live tv at 28 grand a week AMAD is stealing money ,I suspect he,ll go the same way as 99% of utd,s forwards who've flashed a bit of leg early doors in last 10 yrs,Macedonia,ganash,Anthony etc etc,
for 28 grand someone should tell AMAD its up to him to get the crowd cheering with his football not his cheerleading,
VASTLY OVERATED,HYPED

I'm starting my New year resolution of not arguing with idiots a few days early.

I've spent longer on the end of a rainbow than the purple patches of some of utds players and suspect we,re already close to AMAD getting benched

I don't intend to break my New year's resolution.

I usually break mine before the end of the first day. Much prefer a random mid-year resolution; I've been more successful with those.

The secret to keeping New Year's resolutions is there should be a real & tangible upside to keeping them.

you've already broken it by talking to yourself, biggest idiot on here

Bliss

and again

elise has turned into a Stalker What fun!

letting you prove you're a total n0bhead is not stalking

It is when it becomes an obsession

this new years resolution thing isn't going too well

Try re-reading my resolution obsessed

does it say that you're an idiot and think that boasting about owning a 72 plate golf is impressive?

LOL

You can't help yourself can you!

i feel like you've run out of ideas

filed under "limited ability"

Your stalking is clear for all to see.

right i'm away to polish my 04 plate lada

Not heard that euphemism before

You can easily argue dropping Rashford is the right decision but no other player is raising a leg for him as manager.

25/1 now. I'd argue thats not bad value. If they get a hammering at Anfield there will be serious calls for action.

I said in the other thread they need to start getting the wasters out the door from Wednesday

They are doing the right thing not chasing a high position, rebuild out of Europe I'd the right call , just stay up this season

remember The Doc, got us down to div2 at the time, but it was the best thing that happened to utd imho , he pus on the right footing to the success that was to follow, he absolutly changed the team from best, morgan, etc etc , to the coppell and hills and pearsons etc ,( what a brave move ) it paved the way to greatness and the fantastic attacking football ,   utd need bravery and a comlete overhaul , of the rubbish there now

Any stalking tonight pmsl. 0-2

I've chucked a few quid at Amorim to be the next manager out. 40/1


Just not working for him so far. If they get a tonking at Anfield the fans could be brutal. There's an argument that Utd could cut their losses and start quickly with someone else, while he could maybe escape back to Lisbon.

Chubbies all round

Toon fans already signing hes getting sacked in the morning. Only for Matheus Nunes, he would be a goner already if they lose at Anfield.

The idea they cant sack him is total rubbish. His replacement at Sporting is gone already and Potter lasted 31 games and Nuno 17 games at Spurs.

Ratcliffe will boot him imho if no improvement. BTW there will be no signings in Jan given their financial state and they'll be lucky to move 1 or 2 on max give their wages.

14/1 to be relegated at VC ffs I'd never thought i'd see the day....

There will be a bottle of the finest champagne popping in my house if they go down

United got into this mess not forward planning

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but Moyes was booted harshly looking at them now in my opinion, they need to stick with Amorim

So many errors.

Lisandro Martinez was lauded by the moronic fans. Souness rightly called out the comical joke of putting a 5 foot midget in as center back in the PL. He then chucked in an fake injury pre world cup to make sure he was fit for Argentina. An utter disgrace and not a word against him.

Luke Shaw is overweight and literally always injured. He'll have a testimonial and still fans say he should be kept under Amorim.

Eriksen a literal heart attack victim in central midfield ffs

The utter humiliation of having Phil Jones standing in Judgement on TV on the failures of Utd......

It simply can't get any lower.

Maybe Moyes was the big error....

Who knows but it needs fixing pdq

I don't think Moyes was , they wanted a Fergie type appointment and Moyes had been at Everton for about 10 years so had the stamina

Oh, yeah, he could have been, but might have been poor appointment.

Fergie performed a miracle to win in his last season and may
have taken a bit much out of the players in so doing.

We will never know without sliding doors.

Always said every new manager needs 3 years to get every player that want in, in, and every player that want out, out, but must demonstrate during that time they know what they're doing. That's roughly what it took both Klopp and Arteta to build their own squads and shed the clothes worn by the previous manager to get them into contention, you could see they were the right managers despite the league finishing positions with manybe the whole Aubameyang thing being the only real mistake from Mikel. Klopp finished 8th-4th-4th before they started to really challenge win a runners up spot before eventually winning the title, Arteta similar with 8th, 8th 5th then finished runners up twice but succumbing to key injury to Saliba replaced by Holding who was horrific, both Klopp and Arteta were unlucky they also ran into Peak City who were cooking the books.

United are a huge oil tanker of a club that needs a big wide circle turn to get them back on track, they still have players at the club bought under managers stretching as far back as Van Gaal 10 years ago with Shaw and Rashford brought through, to Jose with Lindloft and Dalot, to Solskjaer with Maguire and Fernandes to Ten Haag and dross brough in such as Anthony and De Ligt, every single one of them needs to be sold, every single one of them on huge contracts, every single one of them undoubtedly unwanted by Almorim maybe bar Bruno, though he is a useless captain.

So it's stupid to write off Almorim right now, it's obvious he needs time, however you do have to question his 343 formation, when has a 343 formation ever won the Premier League, Fergie and Wenger were pretty much 442 men, Jose's Chelsea played 433, Conte was a 352 men making sure the midfield controlled the game, Klopp was 433, Ancelotti switch from a diamond to 433, Pep's has been fluid but is in essence 3-2-4-1 when everyone's fit. 343 can work is slower leagues like Portugal but in fast paced leagues like the Premier League that system makes it much easier for the opposition to get in between the lines.

United's current use of wing back are no where near good enough to sustain attacking proficiency and defensive stability at the same time, no chance he fancies Luke Shaw when he happens to be available, it's compounded with the fact they have slow, ageing centre mids like Casemiro and Eriksen not really able to provide any cover sufficiently whatsoever. That's why he needs time and windows to get all of his own players in before he can be judged properly with the system he wants to use. Look at the dross Klopp had at first and what he ended up with. Night and day.

I will laugh along the way as they look to avoid scraping relegation then working their way up the table to play Conference league football, but the reality is with the financial backing behind the club and a proper manager in place, it is only a matter of when not if United will be back challenging for titles again as long as they stop signing ridiculously bad players on ridiculously high wages making nigh on impossible to offload them when needed, will probably look to be in title challenging shape from the beginning of the 2027/28 season.

Kind Regards.

8 games

7 points

square peg , round hole

He does need time and I think he is a good coach, but I was reminded of why Liverpool decided not to go with him. They simply thought his style and set up wouldn't suit our current squad and would need too big an overhaul. Looking at Utd, it's clear that no-one playing has the remotest idea what they're doing and just can't get to grips with his system.

I think he needs to be a bit pragmatic and play the best system for the current players, and then switch once he has a full pre-season of training and is able to mould the squad into something more suitable. If he doesn't it's likely that results will continue in a similar vein and he'll lose the confidence of the players and those above him, and make the turnaround that much harder to complete.

the problem with AMIRON plan is pundits/fans say he needs time to do what he did at sporting.great but amirons sporting wouldn't finish in the top 6 in the EPL,so a plan even if it succeeds ends up with utd out nof top 6 isn't a plan for a club like utd, Jose,ten hagg,loui van  have already done better than that,

Blame the coach when players don't jump at corners


The usual bollox from the Betfair Brains trust

surprised he isnt being more pragmatic with what hes got as that squad gets managers sacked
get to the end of the season and then have a full pre season to get his ideas across

If he carries on like this then usually one team gets dragged into the relegation fight and it might be united this season

Possible, but unlikely for me. Would be funny though. Getting not one, but two managers with zero PL experience and expect them to perform at arguably one of the biggest clubs in the world. OK, one or two make the grade, but more fail.

Needs to stop making as many changes in the league at least..has been a constantly revolving XI..added to installing a totally different playing idea..

Last night Fernandes and Ugarte (who has done quite well recently) not available didn't help but the whole Utd fanbase would have collectively groaned the moment they saw Eriksen and Casemiro paired in MF against a high tempo/pretty high quality side..Mainoo, Collyer or Mazroui even as a makeshift cmf would obviously have been better options than one or other of the two that started..

Yorro has been eased back in enough after injury that he should now be starting and RA needs to start playing with a consistent selection back 3/5 in league games at least otherwise is just exacerbating the lack of training time with current game demands.

He's not going to change the system fundamentally - his whole playing structure is based around one system.
I would be surprised if it doesn't start to improve a little once they have more days on the training pitch but the damage to confidence of players, fans, owners alike is already significant and makes the whole job a lot tougher going forward.

the fact n,castle played them off the park in 1st half wasnt really the point, IT HAPPENS,
the point is they new they could,fancied it, and enjoyed doing it ,the n,castle midfield to a man couldn't get on the ball enough, which doesn't usually happen at old Trafford,where opposition players once shrunk they no cant wait to get on to old Trafford pitchb and get at utd midfield

For me he gambled on zirkzee being able to exploit Newcastle weakness between the lines
but couldn't get enough of ball to do that, credit for changing it, some managers don't accept
they got it wrong.

Amorim is a purist, United need a pragmatist, in respect of his inability to adapt to the situation he finds himself in he is no different from Ange or Russell Martin but regards his dedication to his belief as some kind of noble endeavour.

He isn't the right man and wasn't from the start, said before, bring him in to paint his pretty pictures once the fire is out but don't ask him to put the fire out because that's not him, the job will ruin him , he was the latest fad and United and many fans got excited at the flash of a bit of leg!!

United won't go down and Amorim will know exactly which players are incapable of playing his way and need to leave (all of them)

You don't need him to put any fire out though, the club needs to bin off the wasters and that will take time, just don't have any ambitions for a couple of years, let him build a team

It's not as simple as binning off the wasters because while you're doing that you still need to achieve some kind of level of acceptability which, playing the way that Amorim wants to with the players he has got will be unachievable.

Look at what's already happening, the pressure and performances will be such that he'll expire before he gets anywhere near.

The last 3 managers have all got the best out of the players available at some point and united are further away than ever with some of the same players still on the books.

The club and fans need to accept that a mid-table finish while getting rid of the dross is acceptable for 2-3 years. INEOS in particular as they're the ones who backed ETH in the transfer market last summer and that looks to have set them back at least another year in terms of getting bad signings off the books/replaced.

Back Amorim and encourage him to use some of the younger players we haven't seen yet. It took Arteta 2.5 years before Arsenal were even top 4 level and he started off playing in a way that didn't suit the players he had, with Auba playing on the left or as a false 9 and the team scoring a paltry amount of goals. The financial mess/squad at United is even worse but the job is very similar. Doubt the owners or fans will give him sufficient backing tho.

Dec 31, 2024 -- 4:48PM, duffy wrote:

It's not as simple as binning off the wasters because while you're doing that you still need to achieve some kind of level of acceptability which, playing the way that Amorim wants to with the players he has got will be unachievable.Look at what's already happening, the pressure and performances will be such that he'll expire before he gets anywhere near.

I get that but it needs to happen and its going to be a process. Amorim can implement his style slowly with no pressure to succeed , its the fans that will be the problem, if the board and owners have accepted it then its convincing the fans

Hiring and firing has led them to this point

The silly contracts etc

Lurka I agree we need to bring on one or two academy players

i got them at 29/1 to go down

name a saka,rice,odegaard,saliba, types out   there waiting to sign for utd with no ch LG or are you saying utd are secretly hiding them away from public view In the carrington stiffs 11 ?

They'll sign cl quality players like Arsenal did in their rebuild

Players will always want to sign for United

Utd don't need stars. They need grafters.

players will always sign for utd
apart from Bruno name a utd player who,d start in  any other top 5 side
you can always sign players its getting the good/right ones that county,they can hardly put a striker worth the name on the pitch

Bruno wouldn't start in any top 5 team (Not even Forest. Gibbs White is far better all round player)

He is an absolute liability defensively. Is awful at retaining the ball and even worse easily coughs up possession trying his Roy of the Rovers passes/shots.

ha.roy of the rovers......
billy the fish- fulchester UTD

New Year and the sad trolls are here.

Have they nothing better in their lives?

was it,the
invisible Indian
saves the day...!!!!!

Racingqueen
Racingqueen01 Jan 25 10:54Joined: 02 Jul 11 | Topic/replies: 8,527 | Blogger: Racingqueen's blog
Bruno wouldn't start in any top 5 team (Not even Forest. Gibbs White is far better all round player)

He is an absolute liability defensively. Is awful at retaining the ball and even worse easily coughs up possession trying his Roy of the Rovers passes/shots.

Gibbs White is just who United need. £90 million??

£90m

It'll be a very long time before United pay anything like that for a player

rumour on merseyside last night was l,pool will be resting 3 or 4 on Sunday and keeping them for the Accrington cup game the following week

UserSteve Voltage • January 1, 2025 11:26 AM GMT

Gibbs White is just who United need. £90 million??

Oh at least....and don't forget an add on clause when he leaves Utd for a bigger club

Racingqueen01 Jan 25 10:54Joined: 02 Jul 11
Bruno wouldn't start in any top 5 team (Not even Forest. Gibbs White is far better all round player)

He is an absolute liability defensively. Is awful at retaining the ball and even worse easily coughs up possession trying his Roy of the Rovers passes/shots.




WALOFS, stick to netball or something,  for starters he is already playing for a club in the top 5, he would easily get into other premiership teams, including those above us in the PL..

I'm talking about Fernandes

SNC ... oh sh!t Utd AND Gavin & Stacy fan - ffs mate that's just too much shoite - hope you sort yourself out - just remember YNWA. We are all here for you

vidou my stalker reckons I am can't be a United fan because I'm not particularly upset if they lose.

As for Gavin & Stacey, what can I say, I like TV that's not a shoot'em up, doesn't involve the Police, MI5, MI6, the American military, the FBI or the CIA.

Doesn't leave a lot for me to watch.

Man Utd don’t have fans. They only have customers.

panini 2024/25 cards
9 golden ballers
8 golden excellence cards
30 ltd editions
20 ltd editions signature cards
and other than the 10p base card RASHFORD doesn't appear in any of them

THEY NEW,THEY NEW, THEY NEW ,

UTD COULD DO WORSE THAN GETTING SOMEONE FROM THE  PANINI MARKETING DEPARTMENT ON TO THE COACHING / RECRUITMENT STAFF AT CARRINGTON

Man Utd don’t have fans. They only have customers.

I have never contributed a single penny to the Glazers.

typical armchair utd fan then

Pre Match : Ruben Amorim : Fergie told me to stay positive

Post Match : Ruben Amorim : Maybe the worst team in Man Utd history

Source : https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c77r85gj45xo

He is done. Absolutely no coming back from this. Absolute trash.

They'll go down next year if they keep him

From Messiah to Pariah

Quest: How to lose four goals at home - and that's at the last count.I
Ans:  Play Muppet Maguire in central defence.
When is anyone at O.T. going to recognise how much he demoralises all those around him? He infects everyone with doubt and performances tray accordingly.

LOL

LOL to you too.  Nothing the Guffy did tonight alters the fact that he is a total misfit. How do you think they lost the four goals in the first place?!

They'll go down next year if they keep him

How much will you be putting on that bet?